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darth_ender said:
… I don’t believe Republicans maliciously pass these bills in order to harm everyone but the richest in America.

I don’t think (and I don’t know of anyone else who thinks) that Republicans are maliciously trying to hurt anyone. Rather, I think that quite a number of them (and I am convinced this is the case for Trump) are simply using this window of opportunity to become as rich as they can, as quickly as they can.

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Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I don’t think (and I don’t know of anyone else who thinks) that Republicans are maliciously trying to hurt anyone.

These things are often packed into an ideology that makes it seem like it’s not hurting people.

For example, there’s a belief that hardworking red states pay the taxes that support the freeloading blue states. So a tax bill that hits blue states harder is about fairness, not hurting people. Similarly, making healthcare unaffordable is about the free market. It’s about choice, not hurting people. And although the data indicates otherwise, there’s a belief that cutting taxes can increase government revenue, because a guy drew it on a napkin once, so we’ll increase those services the second all that extra revenue starts pouring in… any minute now, just wait. In the meantime, here’s another tax cut for rich people. Maybe if we cut them more it’ll work. This time for sure. And so on and so on until you’re Kansas.

I forget where I’d heard this phrase before: “So, you’re saying it’s a conspiracy?” “No, it’s worse than a conspiracy. It’s an ideology.”

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NeverarGreat said:

And their donors have basically said that the Republicans had better give them their tax cuts or face re-election without their help.

Not just the donors, the Republicans said the donors said it!

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/948355557022420992

North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un just stated that the “Nuclear Button is on his desk at all times.” Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works!

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Lots of people saying Twitter should suspend Trump over this.

I’m not so convinced.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea/kim-says-north-korea-s-nuclear-weapons-will-prevent-war-n833781

Important to note:

“The entire United States is within range of our nuclear weapons, a nuclear button is always on my desk. This is reality, not a threat,” Kim said in the annual address. “This year, we should focus on mass-producing nuclear warheads and ballistic missiles for operational deployment. These weapons will be used only if our society is threatened.

But in a move that could ease tensions on the Korean Peninsula, Kim proposed immediate talks with Seoul over North Korea taking part in the Winter Olympics in PyeongChang.

“North Korea’s participation in the Winter Games will be a good opportunity to show unity of the people, and we wish the games will be a success,” Kim said.

Seoul responded warmly and welcomed the prospect of talks. A spokesman for South Korea’s presidential office said it has been open to the idea as long as talks are related to improving inter-Korean ties and building peace.

Moderately annoyed with how Kim’s “nuclear button” comment has been reported. It was difficult to find an article that included his qualifier of the weapons only being used if his regime is threatened, and I think that it’s a very important detail.

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Of course, one could reasonably believe that Trump is threatening them every time he says anything about them.

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yhwx said:

Lots of people saying Twitter should suspend Trump over this.

I’m not so convinced.

Do we need to convince you before we can suspend Trump?

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TV’s Frink said:

Of course, one could reasonably believe that Trump is threatening them every time he says anything about them.

Did you just put reasonably and Trump in the same sentence?

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yhwx said:

Lots of people saying Twitter should suspend Trump over this.

I’m not so convinced.

Trump has violated The Twitter Rules about 70 gazillion times already. The question is: how far do the special “Trump Rules” they’ve already crafted just for him extend? Which is the underlying problem with making special carve-outs for important people.

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The sad part is this sort of dick waggling tweet from him doesn’t even shock me anymore.

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The argument of “Twitter is responsible for letting Trump start nuclear war!” seems unconvincing to me. If Twitter has never existed, Trump would have other means to star nuclear war.

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yhwx said:

The argument of “Twitter is responsible for letting Trump start nuclear war!” seems unconvincing to me. If Twitter has never existed, Trump would have other means to star nuclear war.

No, but the argument “Twitter has rules and procedures for repeated abusers of the platform and it should enforce those rules equally” has some merit.

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From Donald Trump:
“North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un just stated that the “Nuclear Button is on his desk at all times.” Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works!”

From the Twitter Rules:
“You may not make specific threats of violence or wish for the serious physical harm, death, or disease of an individual or group of people.”

Open and shut case.

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NeverarGreat said:

From Donald Trump:
“North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un just stated that the “Nuclear Button is on his desk at all times.” Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works!”

From the Twitter Rules:
“You may not make specific threats of violence or wish for the serious physical harm, death, or disease of an individual or group of people.”

Open and shut case.

Actually I think there have been far clearer violations, but they’re numerous enough everything else is just gravy.

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CatBus said:

NeverarGreat said:

From Donald Trump:
“North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un just stated that the “Nuclear Button is on his desk at all times.” Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works!”

From the Twitter Rules:
“You may not make specific threats of violence or wish for the serious physical harm, death, or disease of an individual or group of people.”

Open and shut case.

Actually I think there have been far clearer violations, but they’re numerous enough everything else is just gravy.

I’m sure there are, I was just using this one example.

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yhwx said:

The argument of “Twitter is responsible for letting Trump start nuclear war!” seems unconvincing to me. If Twitter has never existed, Trump would have other means to star nuclear war.

But it’s certainly not helping. Trump having immediate access to air his thoughts publicly is not a good thing.

And either way, there is a clear case to be made for his banning.

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It would be fun to see the fur fly if they did ban him. What are his followers going to do? Piss and moan about it on the very site they would now despise. Not like twitter has any real competition.

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SilverWook said:

It would be fun to see the fur fly if they did ban him. What are his followers going to do? Piss and moan about it on the very site they would now despise. Not like twitter has any real competition.

Trump’s followers have already migrated to Gab since Twitter started their fascist purge. But I suspect that won’t stop them from pissing and moaning anyway, because they’re pros at this point.

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