Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 423

What a world, where this has to be fact checked.

http://www.snopes.com/barack-obama-katrina/

CLAIM
Barack Obama was president when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans in 2005.

RATING
FALSE

ORIGIN
As damage from Hurricane Harvey continued to grow in Texas in late August 2017, some Twitter users sought to defend President Donald Trump’s response to the disaster by criticizing his predecessor, Barack Obama:

The argument that Obama did not do enough after Hurricane Katrina lashed New Orleans, however, ignores the fact that Obama was not president at the time. Katrina made landfall in August 2005, during George W. Bush’s presidency.

These are probably the same sort of idiots who believe Pizzagate is for real. Facts are meaningless to them.

Mueller is officially coordinating with Schneiderman. That means they’re not only circumventing Presidential pardon powers for actual convictions, but more importantly, circumventing Presidential pardon powers as a way to apply pressure to witnesses (i.e. why would you talk talk if you’ve got a guarantee from the President that he’ll pardon you). Furthermore, this puts Schneiderman in a stronger position to continue the investigation should Mueller get fired. It’s the right move for sure. I hope it pays off.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/30/manafort-mueller-probe-attorney-general-242191

Background: Presidential pardons can only apply to federal crimes. So when a state AG presses charges, only the governor of that state can issue pardons. And state-level crimes, while jurisdictionally limited, can still be very, very serious. Money laundering, fraud, racketeering, etc.

dahmage said:

CatBus said:

Mueller is officially coordinating with Schneiderman. That means they’re not only circumventing Presidential pardon powers for actual convictions, but more importantly, circumventing Presidential pardon powers as a way to apply pressure to witnesses (i.e. why would you talk talk if you’ve got a guarantee from the President that he’ll pardon you). Furthermore, this puts Schneiderman in a stronger position to continue the investigation should Mueller get fired. It’s the right move for sure. I hope it pays off.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/30/manafort-mueller-probe-attorney-general-242191

yeah i was reading a little bit on this last night. i really really hope that something actually happens at the end of all these processes, but i am not expecting much.

No, I don’t expect impeachment either. But there can at least theoretically be indictments and even convictions without impeachment (yeah, and that would definitely be weird). And of course the public airing of such very dirty laundry is absolutely necessary, so the testimony obtained through these processes may be invaluable regardless of the legal outcome.

CatBus said:

But if something does happen, here’s my guess: it will be centered on Russia, and the fissure will start to blow up by the end of September (this year).

If there’s going to be an avalanche by the end of September, we should see a couple sizeable pebbles very soon. Otherwise I’d say impeachment is off the table for good.

Eat that, North Korea!

flametitan said:

NeverarGreat said:

Eat that, North Korea!

Took me way too long to realize that was parody.

The Onion is easier to distinguish from reality than they used to be.

http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/01/donald-trump-spelled-heal-wrong-again-in-a-tweet/

President Donald Trump was mocked on Twitter early Friday for misspelling “heal” as “heel,” the second time in two weeks Trump has made the error online.

“Texas is heeling [sic] fast thanks to all of the great men & women who have been working so hard. But still, so much to do. Will be back tomorrow!” Trump wrote at 7:50 a.m. ET on Friday, addressing Hurricane Harvey relief efforts. The tweet was later deleted.

Twitter users and media members were quick to mock the president for his mistake.

yhwx said:

http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/01/donald-trump-spelled-heal-wrong-again-in-a-tweet/

President Donald Trump was mocked on Twitter early Friday for misspelling “heal” as “heel,” the second time in two weeks Trump has made the error online.

“Texas is heeling [sic] fast thanks to all of the great men & women who have been working so hard. But still, so much to do. Will be back tomorrow!” Trump wrote at 7:50 a.m. ET on Friday, addressing Hurricane Harvey relief efforts. The tweet was later deleted.

Twitter users and media members were quick to mock the president for his mistake.

Appearing dumb to elicit an elitist response from Democrats is a pretty old Republican game. Not that Trump needs to play too hard at it, but still. Seriously, there are tons of Americans out there who get by just fine without spelling very well, and they may just be a little sensitive on that matter, and when the Democrats play “cultural partisan elite”, it hardly helps matters. That’s kinda how Bush effectively won the debate with Gore by getting demolished a little too severely. It’s verbal rope-a-dope – they expend far less effort misspeaking than their opponents do correcting them. Can you imagine what would happen if Democrats insisted Republicans get the name of their party right every single time they said it wrong? That’s exactly why Republican politicians and operatives still almost universally get it so consistently wrong after so many decades. It’s a messaging mandate from the party. The focus on style rather than substance aids their cause. The fact that they sound stupid isn’t politically relevant – it’s even a net positive.

CatBus said:

yhwx said:

http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/01/donald-trump-spelled-heal-wrong-again-in-a-tweet/

President Donald Trump was mocked on Twitter early Friday for misspelling “heal” as “heel,” the second time in two weeks Trump has made the error online.

“Texas is heeling [sic] fast thanks to all of the great men & women who have been working so hard. But still, so much to do. Will be back tomorrow!” Trump wrote at 7:50 a.m. ET on Friday, addressing Hurricane Harvey relief efforts. The tweet was later deleted.

Twitter users and media members were quick to mock the president for his mistake.

Appearing dumb to elicit an elitist response from Democrats is a pretty old Republican game. Not that Trump needs to play too hard at it, but still. Seriously, there are tons of Americans out there who get by just fine without spelling very well, and they may just be a little sensitive on that matter, and when the Democrats play “cultural partisan elite”, it hardly helps matters. That’s kinda how Bush effectively won the debate with Gore by getting demolished a little too severely. It’s verbal rope-a-dope – they expend far less effort misspeaking than their opponents do correcting them. Can you imagine what would happen if Democrats insisted Republicans get the name of their party right every single time they said it wrong? That’s exactly why Republican politicians and operatives still almost universally get it so consistently wrong after so many decades. It’s a messaging mandate from the party. The focus on style rather than substance aids their cause. The fact that they sound stupid isn’t politically relevant – it’s even a net positive.

That’s great and all, but I was just pointing out Trumpy’s ineptitude.

Warbler said:

What do you mean Republicans are saying the name of their party wrong?

“Their” in that context meaning the Democratic Party, not the Republican Party. As an exercise, go through any official Republican press release, speech by a Republican national candidate, or opinion piece by a Republican political operative, for the past ten years, and see if you can find even one saying the words “Democratic Party” when talking about their opposition. Just one reference using the actual name of a major US political party in the age of the Internet when anyone can look anything up, shouldn’t be a problem, right? Yeah, not so much. Now go back thirty years, and the same exercise is easy.

They once got it right every single time, and then suddenly they all got it wrong every single time. Staying on message is one thing the Republicans tend to do very well, even for petty name-calling. Shit, look at Freedom Fries or Death Taxes or whatnot. They even rode with Homicide Bombers for a week or so when even their own people couldn’t bear how stupid it sounded from the get-go. They practically have their own Newspeak division.

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

What do you mean Republicans are saying the name of their party wrong?

“Their” in that context meaning the Democratic Party, not the Republican Party. As an exercise, go through any official Republican press release, speech by a Republican national candidate, or opinion piece by a Republican political operative, for the past ten years, and see if you can find even one saying the words “Democratic Party” when talking about their opposition. Just one reference using the actual name of a major US political party in the age of the Internet when anyone can look anything up, shouldn’t be a problem, right? Yeah, not so much. Now go back thirty years, and the same exercise is easy.

They once got it right every single time, and then suddenly they all got it wrong every single time. Staying on message is one thing the Republicans tend to do very well, even for petty name-calling. Shit, look at Freedom Fries or Death Taxes or whatnot. They even rode with Homicide Bombers for a week or so when even their own people couldn’t bear how stupid it sounded from the get-go. They practically have their own Newspeak division.

Although calling them the ‘Democrat Party’ was an insult by Republicans, it has been so ingrained in their speech patterns that they probably think theirs is the ‘proper’ way of saying it. There’s some sense to that after all. The Republicans and the Republican party are the same word, so it makes sense that the Democrats and the Democrat party would follow the same rule. It’s stupid, sure. But at least there’s some consistency in that thought.