Hi, all. Working on my own mashup of Episodes 1-3, with only a single opening crawl. However, that leaves Palpatine’s faked abduction in the opening scene of Revenge unexplained. I’m tempted to nix the scene altogether - but like the way it shows Anakin “going dark” when he beheads Dooku.
Any suggestions . . . ?
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I think him slaughtering Tusken Raiders is enough going dark for one long movie. It’s explaining what happened to Dooku that would be your problem.
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Is this for this?
No, that’s for TFA-TLJ. This is for the prequels.
I think him slaughtering Tusken Raiders is enough going dark for one long movie. It’s explaining what happened to Dooku that would be your problem.
In my version Anakin and Padme will never go to Tatooine. We won’t hear from them until Obi-Wan sends his alert from Geonosis. Throughout this reedit I’m treating Anakin as a supporting character; the story proper will focus on Obi-Wan’s personal experience of the Republic’s fall.
One thing that occurred to me today is to plant a semi-explanatory seed in the revised crawl, making Palpatine already the Republic’s chancellor, and mentioning that there’ve already been abduction attempts. Therefore later seeing him needing to be rescued (as far as the Jedi know) won’t be surprising.
Is this for this?
No, that’s for TFA-TLJ. This is for the prequels.
Lol reading is hard. My bad.
Been working on a three in one edit myself and been thinking a bit about this problem. Thinking maybe add some comms chatter voice-over to the opening battle? Sort of like how it’s been done in this video; https://youtu.be/hlecG3nYaLw
All you’d need is a line or two along the lines of ‘the Chancellor’s ship has fallen’,‘the Chancellor’s been taken prisoner!’ ‘all units converge on general grievous’ ship’ or something like that. You’d have to record new dialogue though and maybe find someone with a Kiwi accent hahah 😉
Is this for this?
No, that’s for TFA-TLJ. This is for the prequels.
Lol reading is hard. My bad.
Haha, no worries. I tend to have multiple dishes cooking on the stove. 😃
Been working on a three in one edit myself and been thinking a bit about this problem. Thinking maybe add some comms chatter voice-over to the opening battle? Sort of like how it’s been done in this video; https://youtu.be/hlecG3nYaLw
All you’d need is a line or two along the lines of ‘the Chancellor’s ship has fallen’,‘the Chancellor’s been taken prisoner!’ ‘all units converge on general grievous’ ship’ or something like that. You’d have to record new dialogue though and maybe find someone with a Kiwi accent hahah 😉
Friggin’ outstanding! Thanks for such a great (and easy) solution. I’m doing it!
I think him slaughtering Tusken Raiders is enough going dark for one long movie. It’s explaining what happened to Dooku that would be your problem.
Since Grievous’ll probably be cut anyways, replace him on Utapau with Dooku. Of course, you can’t just rotoscope the whole fight, so cut it. Instead, add Dooku’s solar sailer being shot down in [this] shot, with a reaction shot of him plummeting to his doom. Mix that in with the other shots of clones and droids fighting and you should be good.
Anakin Starkiller said:
Since Grievous’ll probably be cut anyways, replace him on Utapau with Dooku. . . . add Dooku’s solar sailer being shot down in [this] shot
Refresh my memory: what instalment had that scene?
I kinda like the Grievous-Kenobi fight, though. Hmm . . . .
What do you guys think of this possible crawl for introducing the mashup…?
A shadow has fallen across the GALACTIC REPUBLIC: unrest fomented on dozens of worlds by the mysterious Count Dooku and his mercenary henchman, General Grievous.
JEDI KNIGHTS, the ancient guardians of interstellar peace and justice, have been dispersed across the galaxy to aid in negotiations. Two such agents, a master and his apprentice, are sent to the planet Naboo to escort Senator Amidala safely back to Coruscant, the capital world.
But first they must make a detour to arid Tatooine in order to collect a troubled boy whom they believe has great potential for Jedi training. Little do they know that they are being trailed by a SITH ASSASSIN. . . .
Question: Does Anakin’s homeworld have to be Tatooine? I don’t remember if this becomes a necessary factor somewhere else in the prequels.
I like it!
Anakin does not have to be from Tatooine, it’s never mentioned that he was born there.
You’d just need to provide an alternate backstory to Owen and Beru to explain why Luke is left in their care. Honestly, it makes more sense for them to be unrelated to Anakin, given that hiding him with his blood relatives isn’t really hiding him at all. I recommend making Beru Obi-Wan’s sister.
You’d just need to provide an alternate backstory to Owen and Beru to explain why Luke is left in their care. Honestly, it makes more sense for them to be unrelated to Anakin, given that hiding him with his blood relatives isn’t really hiding him at all. I recommend making Beru Obi-Wan’s sister.
Fine idea, but how does one go about doing that in a reedit? Hmm, even as I was writing that it occurred to me that I can do a pretty good Yoda impression, and could possibly dub the line, “Your sister on Tatooine, perhaps,” with the camera on Obi-Wan.
Thanks for the feedback guys. I’m gonna go with that crawl but will likely drop the mention of Grievous. I just rewatched the opening scene of Revenge, and had forgot how cringe-worthy So many lines were.
So I’m going to cut the scene at Anakin’s beheading of Dooku. AND, I’ll have him do it all on his own with no prompting from Palpatine. In this reedit, Anakin’s just (a) a supporting character, and (b) a bad seed. One of Obi-Wan’s lines pretty much tells the tale: “His training has made him arrogant.”
Wasn’t Owen his brother in the ROTJ novelization?
I think that was George’s original idea according to an article I read somewhere. Not sure about the novel, haven’t read it.
I’m going to drop General Grievous and Tatooine from the crawl (Grievous might go altogether). AND, which of these titles do you guys like best?
Thanks again!
All well-told stories involve a main character and an influence character, who seeks to persuade the main character to adopt an alternative point of view. Whether the main character adopts this alternative point of view will determine if the story ends in success or failure and if the main character resolves his or her personal problems. Regardless, one of these characters will change and the other will remain steadfast.
For example, in A New Hope, Luke is the main character, and Obi-Wan is the influence character. Initially, Luke is driven to test his skills. Obi-Wan persuades him to stop testing himself and trust his feelings. In a leap of faith, Luke embraces Obi-Wan’s point of view when he turns off the targeting computer and shoots the proton torpedo into the main reactor, destroying the Death Star. As a result, he became a hero.
In Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, Luke is the main character, and Vader is the influence character. Vader seeks to tempt Luke to join the dark side. Luke remains steadfast. In a leap of faith, Vader turns back to the light and destroys the Emperor to save his son. As a result, the Empire is defeated, and Luke fulfills his destiny.
In your version of the prequels, Obi-Wan is the main character. Without a character who forces Obi-Wan to wrestle with his inner demons and consider changing his point of view, the story will lack emotional resonance. Ultimately, this edit will be impossible to pull off because no prequel focuses on the relationship between Obi-Wan and Anakin.
Hmm, yes, well, in an ideal world - that is, a world in which the prequels were actually well written (!!!) - I’d have a qualified agreement with you (more on that in a moment). That world doesn’t exist. The prequels as they stand are typically unliked or even loathed by a horde of Star Wars fans. If one wishes to reedit them in order to turn them into something enjoyable, one has to make do with the available material!
So, no, this reedit won’t be “impossible to pull off”; it just won’t turn out to be as substantial a story as you (and me as well) would prefer it to be. The objective here isn’t to turn the prequels into “what they should have been” - but simply to improve their watchability!
But more on the “influence character.” You’re being overly literal about it. There are all sorts of well-told stories that revolve entirely around a single character. What’s needed isn’t another character in the sense of a literal person - but simply a conflict in which the protagonist faces one or more challenges. And, well, obviously such challenges will present themselves to Obi-Wan in this reedit.
Such challenges function in the same way as what you call the “influence character,” without being literal persons.