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Hal 9000 said:

Movie opens with a traditional crawl against a starfield.

Pan down to reveal the island at night, with the starfield being the night sky. It’s the very early morning prior to Rey’s arrival, where we are introduced briefly to Luke and see the last scene from a different perspective.

The production video they released seems to show AHCH-TO in a much darker setting. This could definitely be a possibility.

“That said, there is nothing wrong with mocking prequel lovers and belittling their bad taste.” - Alderaan, 2017

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I don’t envy the task Rian has undertaken. My friends and I often write pass-around stories among the 5 or 6 of us (I have been told that normal people engage in other activities), and it feels like being handed an entry that the previous author didn’t establish well or know how to end. You kind of stumble around re-establishing the scene while also trying to do your own thing, and it doesn’t often end well. I bet Rian does a good job of it regardless.

I would probably start the film after a crawl explaining the state of the galaxy with a pan down to a planet which has now been bestowed with the honor of being the new Republic capital. There’s an address from some low-level bureaucrat who is now acting chancellor, then Leia bursts in all solemn business. Who knows. As has been suggested, I wouldn’t return to Luke and Rey until the second scene at earliest.

You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
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TV’s Frink said:

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joefavs said:

Jesus Christ, get a new joke already.

I’ll admit that the joke was coarse and rough and it is everywhere, but can’t it can’t get even one good-natured ribbing from me?

One?

I can see there’s no fooling you, Frink. Yes, I did make a similar observation over a month ago, and certainly more before that, but my memory was damaged and I’m stranded here until Rian can repair this ship.

You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
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NeverarGreat said:

I don’t envy the task Rian has undertaken. My friends and I often write pass-around stories among the 5 or 6 of us (I have been told that normal people engage in other activities), and it feels like being handed an entry that the previous author didn’t establish well or know how to end. You kind of stumble around re-establishing the scene while also trying to do your own thing, and it doesn’t often end well. I bet Rian does a good job of it regardless.

I would probably start the film after a crawl explaining the state of the galaxy with a pan down to a planet which has now been bestowed with the honor of being the new Republic capital. There’s an address from some low-level bureaucrat who is now acting chancellor, then Leia bursts in all solemn business. Who knows. As has been suggested, I wouldn’t return to Luke and Rey until the second scene at earliest.

God I hope the opening scene doesn’t involve a bureaucrat. I don’t have a problem with having more politics than TFA, but that’s only because TFA didn’t have any politics, so more could (and should) mean quite little.

Rian’s got a whole playground. I don’t envy the heat he’ll inevitably receive but he’s not working on some sort of impossible task (not to mention it wasn’t like he sat down in the theater and got TFA like the rest of us).

Saying it “wasn’t established well” is kinda BS. I’d say everything about the story that matters was established quite well. If Rian has a way to make boring ass space politics interesting, good. But it’s not like he’s cleaning up a mess, it’s all been established, it just wasn’t all spelled out in the final film. He’ll explain whatever he needs to to tell his story, which he would have had to do anyway. There won’t be much catch up.

“Know how to end” is even more BS. The ending of TFA is exactly what the whole rest of the film was leading towards. That was where the story ended. Johnson could have picked it up anywhere, like say two years down the line on an ice planet if he wanted to. But no, he decided he wanted to see what happened immediately afterwards. If that’s where his story begins, that’s where it begins. It’ll be very interesting to see how it plays out.

Personally, in regards to the OP, I hope we learn something new besides just a recap of TFA.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Maybe they’ll use the crawl to give us some political exposition to satisfy all the grumpy prequel lovers

The TFA prequel book Bloodline seems to be very “PT” material, with senate debates and assassination attempts.

And SW/ANH has political exposition scenes by the way…

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MalàStrana said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Maybe they’ll use the crawl to give us some political exposition to satisfy all the grumpy prequel lovers

The TFA prequel book Bloodline seems to be very “PT” material, with senate debates and assassination attempts.

Yeah, but it was done with well fleshed out characters and rules. Loved it, despite not knowing the first thing about politics in real life.

Not enough people read the EU.

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NeverarGreat said:

TV’s Frink said:

NeverarGreat said:

joefavs said:

Jesus Christ, get a new joke already.

I’ll admit that the joke was coarse and rough and it is everywhere, but can’t it can’t get even one good-natured ribbing from me?

One?

I can see there’s no fooling you, Frink. Yes, I did make a similar observation over a month ago, and certainly more before that, but my memory was damaged and I’m stranded here until Rian can repair this ship.

I’m not talking about you specifically. Your post was easy to predict, it just so happened that you were the one to make it first. The biggest surprise is that your more accomplished cohorts haven’t followed suit…yet.

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LuckyGungan2001 said:

MalàStrana said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Maybe they’ll use the crawl to give us some political exposition to satisfy all the grumpy prequel lovers

The TFA prequel book Bloodline seems to be very “PT” material, with senate debates and assassination attempts.

Yeah, but it was done with well fleshed out characters and rules. Loved it, despite not knowing the first thing about politics in real life.

It’s also a book.

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Tobar said:

I suspect they might even open it with a scene depicting Hux delivering Kylo to Snoke.

I could have sworn Rian said that the first scene would pick up exactly where TFA left off.

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Lord Haseo said:

Tobar said:

I suspect they might even open it with a scene depicting Hux delivering Kylo to Snoke.

I could have sworn Rian said that the first scene would pick up exactly where TFA left off.

This movie is going to start right where the last one left off.

Could be interpreted however you like. Also, we’re 11 months away, the edit could change a lot. Rogue One was a completely different movie at this point last year.

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doubleofive said:

Lord Haseo said:

Tobar said:

I suspect they might even open it with a scene depicting Hux delivering Kylo to Snoke.

I could have sworn Rian said that the first scene would pick up exactly where TFA left off.

This movie is going to start right where the last one left off.

Could be interpreted however you like. Also, we’re 11 months away, the edit could change a lot. Rogue One was a completely different movie at this point last year.

New Star Wars Show has the presenters flat out say that the movie begins “right where TFA left off, with Rey presenting Luke Skywalker his long-lost lightsaber.” So that’s canon.

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I wonder if it will begin with a pan down to the planet.

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Perhaps it’ll pan down, already on the planet surface, but from looking up at the night sky to Rey still holding the saber to Luke several hours later.

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suspiciouscoffee said:

Perhaps it’ll pan down, already on the planet surface, but from looking up at the night sky to Rey still holding the saber to Luke several hours later.

“WILL YOU PLEASE TAKE THIS DAMN SABER?!”

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

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I’d certainly love to see a Star Wars movie that goes beyond the traditional crawl and space-ship hovering above planet opening and the same Star Wars theme music. There are so many Star Wars tunes that can create a different mood than the joyous and triumphant music from A New Hope. Why can’t a Star Wars film begin with a prologue, then move onto the crawl and use a different sadder or grimmer John Williams theme.

I’m quite sure that ‘The Last Jedi’ will be a grim and dark affair with Han Solo’s death and deaths of millions on a planet having happened recently. It’s definitely not a happy time to be. Why can’t we begin with the FORCE THEME instead of the main theme? Seeing as the title refers to the last Jedi living, the force theme would compliment the crawl far more appropriately than anything else, since he/she’ll be the last force user.

Sticking to tradition is fine, but slavishly maintaining something due to fear of fan backlash can turn something from a creative work to just a merchandise and fan-service where everybody plays safe and does not innovate.

I’d like the opening scenes to be shaken up a bit. ‘Rogue One’ dared to do it and I really enjoyed that they at least tried to be different than the lot.

I appreciate that the Star Wars logo is Red for Ep VIII instead of bright yellow. Now we need it to slowly appear on-screen rather than just jump at us and then have the force theme play with the crawl rather than the SW theme. That’d be really interesting and different while still sticking to the visual legends of the series.

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Papai2013 said:

I’d certainly love to see a Star Wars movie that goes beyond the traditional crawl and space-ship hovering above planet opening and the same Star Wars theme music.

Rogue One, currently in theaters near you.

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MalàStrana said:

Rogue One, currently in theaters near you.

Yes, I mentioned that in my post as well. But the saga films should change the feel of the opening as per the overall mood of the beginning. That’d keep things fresh, while not losing the familiarity. However, this is just my opinion and I understand that.

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Papai2013 said:

MalàStrana said:

Rogue One, currently in theaters near you.

Yes, I mentioned that in my post as well. But the saga films should change the feel of the opening as per the overall mood of the beginning. That’d keep things fresh, while not losing the familiarity. However, this is just my opinion and I understand that.

I agree this would have somehow been a good idea, but only if it had already been done to give each trilogy its own identity (and its own name: “Star Wars” for the OT, “Clone Wars” for the PT, “Rehash Wars” for the ST, etc.). But after 7 movies with the same opening protocol, it would be weird to change it now.

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MalàStrana said:

I agree this would have somehow been a good idea…But after 7 movies with the same opening protocol, it would be weird to change it now.

Not change, just slightly adapt it to the current story’s mood, which I guess will be darker than the last one. Personally, I have a little trouble accepting the prospect of Williams’ victorious SW theme for ‘The Last Jedi’s’ opening crawl. But again, it’s just me and I’ll watch it anyway, hopefully in IMAX.