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Hello,

My name is walkingdork and over 5 years ago, I joined MySpleen for one thing only...STAR WARS! I am now an administrator there and I am working to restore MySpleen to its former Star Wars glory. Many old torrents are still there but are unseeded.

I would like to personally invite the OT community back to MySpleen. Please feel free to upload any and all Star Wars content (fan edit/projects, preservations, etc) that is not already available.

We have recently switched to .org and have freeleech sitewide. We aren't too worried about ratios, we just want old and new content to stay available. If you don't have an account or have lost your password, contact me and I can help you out. You can also request an invite in our forums.

If you have questions, comments, complaints about me or MySpleen, feel free to ask. If this is in anyway breaking the rules or upsetting staff, I apologize in advance. Feel free to edit or delete this post if necessary.

 

 

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Basic Guidelines:

- Anything you download should really be seeded until you have at least a ratio of 1.0+ for that torrent OR you have been seeding it for at least 72 hours. That's the minimum effort required to be an acceptable member.

- Don't delete your account unless you are sure you are never going use it again. Deleting your account and requesting a new invite later is ratio evasion and frowned upon in the torrent community. There's no reason for it and I've turned down several requests for a second account.

- Keep a good overall ratio or at least keep torrents seeded. I and other staff are less worried about your ratio when we can see that you are at least attempting to fix it. Don't be afraid to download a torrent that may hurt you ratio, just be willing to seed it so others can have access to it as well.

Tips to get your ratio up:

- Seed. Keeping your torrents seeded is the easiest and most obvious way to bring up your ratio. If no one is downloading from you because the torrent is old or unpopular just wait, someone will download it eventually.

-Take advantage of freeleech. Freeleech is when downloading will not count against your ratio (but upload still will). Myspleen has freeleech quite often. We have freeleech for holidays, special events, and sometimes just for the fun of it.

-Take advantage of torrents that have stars or clock icons. Starred torrents are freeleech for as long as they are starred (usually forever) and new torrents with stop watch icons are freeleech for the first week.

-Take advantage of Upload Multipliers. Each torrent has an Upload Multiplier which gives bonus upload depending on how old the torrent is (some of the oldest torrents have multipliers above 12x). The multiplier number is multiplied by the amount of upload and added to your stats.
So 5GB uploaded on a torrent with a upload multiplier of 2 will give you 10GB towards your ratio.

- Check out the Home page from time to time for news and updates. Sometimes we have contests for prizes and I'll soon be putting up some opportunities for upload prizes.

If there are any questions, comments, or complaints I'd love to hear them. :)

If you want a Myspleen invite, just PM me and ask.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Once-upon-a-time-on-MySpleen/topic/12652/

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Welcome, and thanks for the post.

While Usenet and file-hosters (RapidShare, MegaUpload, etc.) are more popular now than five years ago, there are still those that use torrents. Demonoid now appears to be the site of choice for ot-ers, I don't know whether that's because of the Spleen's invite-only policy or something else (certainly not usability, the times I've been to Demonoid I've found the ads to be horribly intrusive).

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I don't have an account.

I have a torrent I could contribute, but I'm already running it on Demonoid and I don't know if uploading it to a second place is as simple as it should be (never tried it).

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Let me try to eliminate any weariness of our invite-only policy by saying that any and all Original Trilogy members who ask for an invite will get one. Just send me a pm or ask for them on our forum. We will also be having an invite contest soon so I imagine there will be an increase in myspleen invite offers in the usual places.

As I said earlier we a very laid back about ratios but we also have a upload multiplier system where the older the torrent the higher the multipler. For example, if you upload 5 gigabytes on a torrent with an 8.0 multiplier, the amount that will be added to your ratio would be 40gb. The point of this is to give someone incentive to seed older torrents. Every month the torrent is on the tracker, .1 is added to the multiplier.

If there are any suggestions on how we can be more accommodating please let me know. 

If you want a Myspleen invite, just PM me and ask.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Once-upon-a-time-on-MySpleen/topic/12652/

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Asaki said:

I don't have an account.

I have a torrent I could contribute, but I'm already running it on Demonoid and I don't know if uploading it to a second place is as simple as it should be (never tried it).

I sent you an invite. Just create and upload the torrent using the myspleen announce and you'll be able to seed both torrents using the same file(s). If you have any problems along the way pm me or any other admin/mod on myspleen and we'll help you out. Thanks!

If you want a Myspleen invite, just PM me and ask.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Once-upon-a-time-on-MySpleen/topic/12652/

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Tech question: Many of the SW releases on myspleen are .iso.  If you don't have the original .iso (the disc was burnt for archive for instance) How could you help seed?  If you remade the .iso from the burned disc, i'm thinking it wouldn't be the exact thing, since the program making the .iso most likely does things a little different, then the application used way back when.  Anyone tried remaking the .iso and seeing if parts of the disc are recognized?

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I did try it once, and yes, the ISO imaged from a physical disc was different to the original ISO used to burn it. Not sure if this can be remedied with some binary trickery - Mallwalker would know.

For torrents containing RAR archives, ReScene may be useful.

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This is a general thing for the continuation of these files. Balancing the original creation verse the ease of distribution verse the quickness of watching. Each has merits but they adversely affect the other characteristics.

...being behind the advances, how to deal with the old data and the new ideas. ReScene sounds great, didn't know what they were for, have been repacking... so many wasted hours. When did the .srr and .sfv files come out? (ok see it was late 2008) Was trying to track down when .nzb's came into existence recently and haven't found anything certain, but leaning towards early 2003...

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Content question: some of the Star Wars torrents have a .nfo for the specific myspleen upload.  Had in the past gotten the discs from usenet and seeded on the spleen.  So can re-seed up to 99.9%, the communities going to have to figure out how to find those old .nfos.

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Not long ago when M posted Star Wars Begins to usenet
first thing I did was to download the last RAR (part090) and extract the CRC from its header
because I wanted to check it against the disc JD sent me. It didn't match :(
So does that mean M is a . . . F-word? No, no, no!

Here's a hexadecimal dump from M's image file:
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/43/swba.png
The highlighted parts are the mastering date.
With punctuation added, it's 2011-02-02 19:47:14 in JD's local time zone.
This disc JD sent me contains exactly the same VIDEO_TS files (I made sure of that) but mine was mastered the day before, or the day after I can't remember, so the ISO image is not exactly the same.

Even in this ''best case" scenario (presumably JD used the same software both days) re-creating the image would require to guess the mastering time with a precision to the nearest second. In the worst case, without knowing which software originally made the torrented image, synthesizing it becomes next to impossible.

Now having said that, this project sounds like a lot of fun. Count me in.
I see ten or more on walkingdork's "currently leeching" list that I can probably seed. Some of those were seeded as image files, but in those cases I would have saved the first few sectors from the original image and the last few sectors -- enough to reassemble the image without any guessing.

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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Darth Mallwalker wrote:  Even in this ''best case" scenario (presumably JD used the same software both days) re-creating the image would require to guess the mastering time with a precision to the nearest second. In the worst case, without knowing which software originally made the torrented image, synthesizing it becomes next to impossible.

So whom ever knows how to reach the geniuses behind PARs, SRRs, etc.  A routine/program to take a torrent file hashes? compare that to a recreated .iso and it cranks through the 'dates' until it finds the original match to make the torrent 'work'... program.

On your SWBegins example, does this mean that Jambe didn't create an .img, he burned everyone separately (from the video_TS folders), or does every burn no matter the original file automatically have the date of finish stamped into it?  So only mechanically pressed discs will have the same date and be exact copies?

Seeding BH008, except for the .nfo of the torrent upload. So if you've got it, see if we can get 100%.

Let us know if the first/last sector trick works.  Might as well try it.

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On your SWBegins example, does this mean that Jambe didn't create an .img, he burned everyone separately (from the video_TS folders)
I suspect that's the case. Then again, I've no familiarity with the Mac software he used.
Certainly it's possibe for multiple burned discs to contain exactly the same image.
Any given software might not be capable (if written by a fuckwit programmer) but in general it's possible and doesn't require factory pressing.

Don't have bh008 but I see it was seeded by Metallaxis. Most of his NFO files follow the same boilerplate. I do have NFO's from some others of Metallaxis' seeds. I'll start with one of those, then try copy/paste sections from the bh008 torrent description. Might get lucky...

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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If there is a scenario where the old torrent can never be reseeded completely because of a missing .nfo file or because no one is able to rehash 100%, we'll just reupload the torrent.

I know that was a huge issue when DAP created their own tracker for all their MST3K files, and MySpeen members had trouble seeding ISOs with their Video_TS files. In that case I just burnt the TS files to DVD, and then extracted as an ISO. It hashed to about 90% which I felt was better than completely redownloading.

In the case of seeding ISO torrents from a burnt DVD, I think you should be able to use any program like imgburn to extract the ISO. In my experience it should hash.

When seeding Video_TS files, you should just be able to just copy the files from the DVD as long as you didn't reencode when you burnt it.

 

If you want a Myspleen invite, just PM me and ask.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Once-upon-a-time-on-MySpleen/topic/12652/

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... When did the .srr and .sfv files come out? (ok see it was late 2008) Was trying to track down when .nzb's came into existence recently and haven't found anything certain, but leaning towards early 2003...

SFV files have been around for as long as I remember. 2008 sounds about right for ReScene SRR files. NZBs were devised late 2004 - article here.

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Strange, I had an account on the old myspleen.net tracker, but it doesn't work on myspleen.org . Did you delete accounts of people who didn't log in for a long time ?

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Darth Mallwalker said:

Not long ago when M posted Star Wars Begins to usenet
first thing I did was to download the last RAR (part090) and extract the CRC from its header
because I wanted to check it against the disc JD sent me. It didn't match :(
So does that mean M is a . . . F-word? No, no, no!

Here's a hexadecimal dump from M's image file:
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/43/swba.png
The highlighted parts are the mastering date.

Interesting. I received a physical disc from JD. I used ImgBurn to create an ISO image from the disc. The dump above says that Toast was used to build the ISO, presumably by JD himself. So the original mastering data is present somewhere on the physical disc, and is retained when Imgburn makes the image?

I still have the original image for Pwnage on my hard drive. I also have a disc burned from this image. When I get some minutes spare I'll create an ISO from this disc and try a fc /b on the two images. I can do the same for my original laserdisc transfer, but I know that image was mastered with the old ImgTool Classic so it'll be interesting to see what the differences are.

It should be possible to image a disc and have the image file match. I remember way back in the days of VCD, I managed to create a BIN file from a physical CD which matched the original release (same ed2k hash). Had to recreate the CUE file though.

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@walkingdork - last year we relaxed our rules to allow discussion about sharing "Custom DVDs". Such discs for Star Wars typically feature processing to improve the 2006 release video quality, and the addition of extra audio options. Would this type of release be allowed on MySpleen?

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Moth3r said:

@walkingdork - last year we relaxed our rules to allow discussion about sharing "Custom DVDs". Such discs for Star Wars typically feature processing to improve the 2006 release video quality, and the addition of extra audio options. Would this type of release be allowed on MySpleen?

Yes. In fact nearly all of the custom DVDs are allowed including your non-Star Wars content. They only Custom DVD I see that might be an issue is the Aladdin Custom DVD because we generally don't allow any Disney related content. Even then I personally think we should make an exception and allow it.

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Strange, I had an account on the old myspleen.net tracker, but it doesn't work on myspleen.org . Did you delete accounts of people who didn't log in for a long time ?

Could be. I wasn't admin on the site back in the .net days (just a lowly IRC op). Right now we don't prune accounts unless they have never been used. If you want I'd be happy to give you an invite.

If you want a Myspleen invite, just PM me and ask.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Once-upon-a-time-on-MySpleen/topic/12652/

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Moth3r wrote:  NZBs were devised late 2004 - article here.

It's possibly even earlier, maybe even 2002.  Found some mentions in late 2003, and one from Jan, 2003.  Seems there was newzbin (.NZB) and binnews (.BNS) similar indexing idea, challenging each other.

The ReScene folks at least note when their developments happen, v1=2008, I guess because of the newzbin lawsuits that .nzb info is gone.  Can't find any mentions on groups.google either... reTarTed

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Find all you never wanted to know about ISO-9660 filesystem structure there.
Grab the .PDF and look at section 8.4 which describes the Primary Volume Discriptor.

Here's what you're looking at in the hex dump above:
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/581/ecma119.png


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So the original mastering data is present somewhere on the physical disc, and is retained when Imgburn makes the image?

There's some ambiguity in the phrase "when Imgburn makes the image". It depends on which method used.
One method is to copy the image from an optical disc into a file on the hard disk. That's the (off)topic of this thread.
Another method would be to generate a new image from a folder that happens to be on an optical disc, in the same fashion as one might generate an image of a folder on a hard disk. That's not what we want this time.
Can you see the distinction?

I'm confident Imgburn can do either method, but being a Linux guy I don't know Imgburn's name for either one.




Back on topic, I've got two success stories:

Star Wars : The Making of a Trilogy - DVD #1
Star Wars : The Making of a Trilogy - DVD #2
were stuck at 99.9%. I found the .NFO files; now evilelvis is seeding.

I found images of bh004 & BLAK0041, and seeded both of those.
bh002 is queued

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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Darth Mallwalker said:


Back on topic, I've got two success stories:

Star Wars : The Making of a Trilogy - DVD #1
Star Wars : The Making of a Trilogy - DVD #2
were stuck at 99.9%. I found the .NFO files; now evilelvis is seeding.

I found images of bh004 & BLAK0041, and seeded both of those.
bh002 is queued

 

This is great news. It's good to see a few dead torrents spring back to life. I looks like a few things may need to get reuploaded because of missing .nfo files but that's at least a manageable situation. This is certainly a great start. Thanks everyone, now I just need more hard drive space! :)

Mallwalker, where did you find the .nfo files for the Making of a Trilogy DVDs? Somewhere online or in your personal collection?

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The "Making of" .NFO,s are on my burned discs as ROM content. (Those weren't seeded as disc images to begin with.)

In the case of bh004, I had burned the original image(*) way back then, and 'ripped' it just now.
I found its .NFO on an old hard drive. There's literally a pile of 'em on a shelf in my cupboard. Not organized or cataloged or anything like that, but I got lucky and found it on the first disk I checked.


(*) That original image I had got from usenet, before the torrent was created.

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
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Darth Mallwalker said:

There's some ambiguity in the phrase "when Imgburn makes the image". It depends on which method used.
One method is to copy the image from an optical disc into a file on the hard disk. That's the (off)topic of this thread.
Another method would be to generate a new image from a folder that happens to be on an optical disc, in the same fashion as one might generate an image of a folder on a hard disk. That's not what we want this time.
Can you see the distinction?

I'm confident Imgburn can do either method, but being a Linux guy I don't know Imgburn's name for either one.

Yes, I see the distinction.

From ImgBurn's Ez-Mode Picker, you can either
Create image file from disc
or
Create image file from files/folders.

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great thread. i thought i knew quite a bit about torrents and rars, but damn that was some in depth discussion there.