"Now...what shall we talk about?" The All-Inclusive Indiana Jones Thread

We have a number of threads on Indy fanedits or on ranking the Indy films, but nothing to discuss the franchise in a broader sense. This thread will serve that purpose. I’ve been watching the movies in my spare time (meaning, while doing homework, I steal glances at the TV while my wife watches). This is definitely one of my favorite franchises, and I thoroughly enjoy the first three, even in spite of the missteps of The Temple of Doom.

Hopefully, we can generate some fun discussion here.

darth_ender said:

Hopefully, we can generate some fun discussion here.

Great thread, and good idea! I’ll start!

So Indy 5 is official. I truly do not enjoy Crystal Skull very much, even in fan edited form. I feel there were a number of good ingredients, Lucas-esque prequalisms infiltrated this movie too much and it really suffers. I’m hoping 5 will be a redemption and return to form.

So what should it be about? I have two ideas:

1. Since Raiders is about a Hebrew/Jewish relic and Crusade is about a Christian relic, I thought it might be interesting to utilize a relic from the other major Abrahamic faith: Islam. West End Games once used the Black Stone for one of their scenarios, and I think it’s a worthwhile idea.

Of course, due to political sensitivities, I see this as unlikely

2. Since the Jones movies take place during certain periods and highlight the interests of the times (religion in the 30s-'40s, science fiction in the '50s), it might be fun to see a '60s spy thriller type of Indiana Jones movie. Bond movies played some inspiration on the franchise, and it could be interesting to see the elderly Jones character, now not so physically spry, using gadgets to accomplish his missions.

Honestly, this sounds really fun, or really terrible. I’m actually on the fence about this idea.

What would you like to see in Indy 5?

darth_ender said:

darth_ender said:

Hopefully, we can generate some fun discussion here.

Great thread, and good idea! I’ll start!

I don’t know who approved this thread but it was a terrible idea.

So Indy 5 is official. I truly do not enjoy Crystal Skull very much, even in fan edited form. I feel there were a number of good ingredients, Lucas-esque prequalisms infiltrated this movie too much and it really suffers. I’m hoping 5 will be a redemption and return to form.

I actually don’t mind Crystal Skull in fanedit form. There’s a lot to enjoy in there.

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

darth_ender said:

Hopefully, we can generate some fun discussion here.

Great thread, and good idea! I’ll start!

I don’t know who approved this thread but it was a terrible idea.

So Indy 5 is official. I truly do not enjoy Crystal Skull very much, even in fan edited form. I feel there were a number of good ingredients, Lucas-esque prequalisms infiltrated this movie too much and it really suffers. I’m hoping 5 will be a redemption and return to form.

I actually don’t mind Crystal Skull in fanedit form. There’s a lot to enjoy in there.

Which edit do you find most worthwhile? I don’t remember which I’ve seen, but maybe the right one will change my mind.

Here’s the ones I’m aware of.

https://ifdb.fanedit.org/fanedit-search/tag/originalmovietitle/indiana-jones-and-the-kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull/?criteria=2

I like Q2’s because it has a light touch. Sounds like you might want something more, however. So I’d suggest njvc’s.
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/raiders-of-the-lost-skull/

You can see the cutlist on the Changes tab, but what I really enjoyed was the music changes.

1-Film Score: The large majority of the score has been completely replaced with the score from Raiders of the Lost Ark. This was a painstaking process, matching each musical beat to this new edit of KOTCS. The intention was to improve the tone, and evoke the old feeling of Raiders through that classic music. As a result of these changes, many sound effects also had to be replaced to allow the new music to be integrated naturally into the film

The only other one I’ve seen was Jorge’s, which had a few odd choices I didn’t really like.

darth_ender said:

So Indy 5 is official.

Please tell me this is not true.

darth_ender said:

What would you like to see in Indy 5?

I would like to see no Indy 5. I think Indy should be allowed to rest in peace.

Indy 5 is 100% confirmed.

I don’t completely hate Crystal Skull, but it’s clearly the weakest of the franchise. Haven’t checked out any fanedits of that one yet, though.

I also have to say that I really love Temple of Doom and I’m more or less ambivalent on Last Crusade, bar the last 30 minutes or so which are fantastic. The rest is watchable because of Connery and Ford.

Raiders is, of course, a perfect movie. Which makes it part of a very small group.

TV’s Frink said:

Here’s the ones I’m aware of.

https://ifdb.fanedit.org/fanedit-search/tag/originalmovietitle/indiana-jones-and-the-kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull/?criteria=2

I like Q2’s because it has a light touch. Sounds like you might want something more, however. So I’d suggest njvc’s.
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/raiders-of-the-lost-skull/

You can see the cutlist on the Changes tab, but what I really enjoyed was the music changes.

1-Film Score: The large majority of the score has been completely replaced with the score from Raiders of the Lost Ark. This was a painstaking process, matching each musical beat to this new edit of KOTCS. The intention was to improve the tone, and evoke the old feeling of Raiders through that classic music. As a result of these changes, many sound effects also had to be replaced to allow the new music to be integrated naturally into the film

The only other one I’ve seen was Jorge’s, which had a few odd choices I didn’t really like.

I probably shouldn’t paint with too broad a brush, as it looks like I’ve downloaded four versions, but I think I’ve only given Q2’s a chance. It was a few years ago, so I should give something else a go. I like Q2 as an editor, but I still didn’t like the source material. I think I’ll try njvc’s. It’ll be a couple days before I have the chance, but thanks for the recommendation.

ChainsawAsh said:

Indy 5 is 100% confirmed.

I don’t completely hate Crystal Skull, but it’s clearly the weakest of the franchise. Haven’t checked out any fanedits of that one yet, though.

I also have to say that I really love Temple of Doom and I’m more or less ambivalent on Last Crusade, bar the last 30 minutes or so which are fantastic. The rest is watchable because of Connery and Ford.

Raiders is, of course, a perfect movie. Which makes it part of a very small group.

I agree with your last paragraph very much!

I’m definitely in the “Crystal Skull is actually kinda fun camp.” The rest are great, obviously. I have high hopes for 5.

To me Temple is a potentially great movie with some bits that ruin the whole thing. This helped a lot.

https://ifdb.fanedit.org/indiana-jones-and-the-temple-of-doom-the-infodroid-edit/

It’s an older edit, but it checks out.

I too like the idea of bringing Short Round back, but does Jonathan Ke Quan even act anymore? I suppose they could always recast. Might be interesting to go back to Asia, either way, although not sure if it’s a good idea to touch Vietnam or not.

Otherwise, given the timeframe, I could see something involving Berlin or Germany in general. I’ve been saying for awhile it might be fun to do a bit of Nazi zombies but I don’t know if they’ll want to reign it in after the alien backlash.

The one thing that blows my mind is that it will have been 12 years since KOTCS. That’s only 7 less years than the gap between that and TLC. It’s a real shame they didn’t make at least one in the 90s. That way it wouldn’t quite feel like there’s so much time we’ve missed (and we’d get to see Indy in the 40s).

captainsolo said:

SilverWook said:

Bring back Short Round! Would be nice to see him grown up and following in Indy’s footsteps.

What I was dying for in the fourth film.

I think both Raiders and Temple are those rare things in being perfect films.

I’m sorry but any movie that features Kate Capshaw whining and screaming for 90-ish minutes cannot ever be considered perfect, no matter how good the rest of it might be.

Batman 89 suffers the same flaw (minus the whining and Kate Capshaw and plus the Kim Basinger).

Kate Capshaw is in Batman?

See my edited post, wiseguy.

I need to use the quote button more. Now I look like the silly one instead of you.