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I don't know if I'm the only person who feels this way, but I think we need a new direction for the petition on the front page. The GOUT has been released and has already been pulled from the shelves again. We have now had the OT on DVD, so we need to clarify our request. I think it is time to start petitioning for an OT release in higher-quality on BluRay or HD-DVD. While we are at it, why don't we also petition for the release of deleted scenes/making of material from the original trilogy? What does everyone else think?
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I think petitioning for higher quality of the OT should be done. I have no care about the effects being spruced up just a clean up the films and released in a format closer to the 21st century standards. The deleted scenes and making of material we could hold off on and see if anything new is released this year. Im behind you 110% for the films be released again, heck the SE's have been technically released 3 times already on DVD.

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I agree, but at this point, I doubt that we can win, and Jay seems to have lost heart. I'd be all for it though.

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Thanks for pointing this thread out to me.

This site needs to be re-focused on something. Whether any of us want any part of it after that is another matter. As I see it, this is originaltrilogy.com, a site about the original versions of the Star Wars films. It could be argued that the "original" in OT.com could also just mean the original stories which would then also include the SEs since it is essentially the same story, but we all know that's not why this site was created. I first signed the petition here (and joined the board) when I saw a signature at another forum about Han shooting first (actually he's the only one that fires, but that's just semantics). At the time, I wanted a high quality version of the original Star Wars on DVD and it was nice to talk with others who had the same wishes. A lot of great things came out of it. A high quality version of the almost complete mono track emerged. Fan made LD-to-DVD conversions were coming out regularly. We all had one goal uniting us and it was nice. The result? Lucasfilm released the ultimate LD master-to-DVD conversion. It's not quite what we wanted so the battle goes on...

Since that happened I haven't been here much. Star Wars was out, looking as good as it possibly could given the horrible circumstances. What could be done? Not much it seems. Now when I come to OT.com I see people making their own versions of Star Wars with CG special effects. Wasn't this site created to get the originals back and to leave the CG out of it? It's a slap in the face to those of us who came here originally to sign the petition asking for the true original films and spend hours explaining and discussing the differences between the various versions of the movies. I know I came here to try and make a difference and right a cinematic wrong. Now I come here and see, "This is the way Lucas should have changed the movie". That goes against the very core of why I joined and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone. It goes against the founding principle of this site and legitimizes what Lucas has done to the films. Not only that, it sends the message that the fans want things changed and think that it's alright. Maybe some do, but this site should not be part of that mentality.

I think this site needs to get to a hard line stance of "it's the original or bust". There are tons of places on line to discuss the SEs. There's even a place to discuss your own fan edits (though if you're a fan why would you want to change it?). But where is the site exclusively for the original Star Wars? It used to be originaltrilogy.com.

And yes, we should still all be petitioning and working to get a high quality version of the original movies released. The current DVDs aren't anything close to acceptable.

Neil

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Originally posted by: Neil S. Bulk
There's even a place to discuss your own fan edits
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Originally posted by: Mike O
I agree, but at this point, I doubt that we can win, and Jay seems to have lost heart. I'd be all for it though.


Not heart--just time. It's very precious these days.

A revival of the petition for a Blu-ray release is certainly a possibility if I were persuaded that the demand is there.
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Originally posted by: Jay
Originally posted by: Mike O
I agree, but at this point, I doubt that we can win, and Jay seems to have lost heart. I'd be all for it though.


Not heart--just time. It's very precious these days.

A revival of the petition for a Blu-ray release is certainly a possibility if I were persuaded that the demand is there.


Oh, I am pretty sure that even all of the people doing these fan edits would love a high-quality preservation of the Original Theatrical Trilogy on a next-generation disc format (Blu-Ray, HD-DVD, or their successors - if there are any - is there really a need once you get to the level of film accuracy? I guess from there it would just go to hard disk formats of some kind).
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I hear ya, Neil.

Thanks for building a little more momentum in this thread.

Bring on a new petition!
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Well it's about damn time someone bumped this thread.
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I absolutely think we need a new petition, one that specically states we want a new remastering done with the same level of care the 2004 DVD's got (but with proper colors this time) on Blu-Ray. We could also petition for a remastered DVD, but by the time we have enough signatures and get enough notice, Blu-Ray will be in full-steam. I also think what we need to do is get this petition out to those besides George; once its got tons of signatures like the old one did, it should be forwarded to various media outlets and DVD sites and such, so that the media starts putting pressure on George too. If we decide to do a new petition, we should really get the word about it out there, as wide as possible.
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Definitely agreed. Maybe when the new forum software comes, we can get a new petition, too! This one should be open-ended, though, maybe, to account for future storage format changes.
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so, yea, about that new direction for the petition....
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Somebody should try posting this in the general section and see what kind of response it gets, particularly outside the ot.com community. If it has a real chance of getting some signatures, I'm up for it.

Somebody needs to take a shot at writing the petition letter/message. We have to be clear on what the goal is.
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Originally posted by: ferris209
Let's do it!


God willing.

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