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Can someone post Metallaxis' covers for Moth3r's set?
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Thanks DarthBoMan!
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Moth3r just wanted to say I think your Pal dvd set is exceptional.

The transfer and image is much sharper than the ntsc transfers.

The only thing is I live in the u.s. and hate pal speed up, but Your transfer of the LD is the best one i've seen yet.

Too bad there is not a similar transfer From a native NTSC source, and I don't mean re-inventing the wheel because that is pal transfered over to ntsc.

Your set is a bit dark in places but, out of all the preservation/versions out there it is the only one that comes close to the offcial dvd release in terms of quality.

Yes ocpmovie's set is nice but the color is a bit garish in places and overly bright because of being taken from the official dvd release. Too bad they did such a bad Job color correcting the 2004 release, and messing up the soundtrack on a new hope. If they fixed those issues as well as omitted the new cgi form 1997-2004 we would have a near perfect release, as long as they fixed the bad mattes and other glaring issues that are present.

Darth Solo would you mind posting hi-rez versions of your covers in this thread or the cover release thread?

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Originally posted by: boba feta
In another thread Moth3r you suggested you could make an even better version. Would you share with us your new and improved technique?
I could make improvements in the following aspects:
- better colour (settings were wrong in the original capture)
- better audio (I could now capture a direct digital source; also there was an error in the original AC3 mix - level too low)
- better noise filtering (advances in avisynth functions, see Doom9)

Detail and sharpness would be the same as the existing version, but I think I would make an anamorphic NTSC DVD this time. I could in theory add the mono mix as an alternative audio option (although the fully restored mix is not yet finished, so this would just be a roughly patched-up version).

I fancy having a go just to see how the video would compare with the X0 project and the official '06 DVD. However, if I did do such a disc, it wouldn't be distributed (due to there being an official DVD release).

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Go ahead, Moth3r. Your set has in many ways been the best out there since it came out, but I think it's worth an upgrade for the reasons you mentioned. The main thing you didn't mention is the side changes, which you could fix in the same way Citizen did. I hope you do it - I look forward to seeing...um...your screencaps, I guess.
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Arrg... forget this post... delete it... do it... DO IT!
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This was posted in Doctor M's thread over a year ago:
Originally posted by: Laserman
The halos on Moth3rs capture are caused because of the analogue bandwidth limitation, there is not enough bandwidth for the hard transitions from black to white, so you get the 'halos' - it is an analogue issue and can be solved either by filtering, or better still by remapping.
I never got around to asking, but what exactly is meant by the term "remapping"?

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Thanks for the PM Moth3r.
By that I meant the best way to fix the problem is to do it electronically rather than trying to filter it later.
Basically the problem with Laserdisc is that even the best players crap out at around 5 to 5.5MHz. This leaves laserdisc with a relatively slow rise time (the time taken for a signal on the video path to change from one colour to another) and can cause the 'ringing' or halos as well as awful transitions between colours.
To solve the problem somewhat you can map the Chroma signal to the Luma signal. The Luma signal is relatively quick, around 150nanoseconds, whereas the chroma signal lags with a rise time of around 800nanoseconds. By devising a circuit to lock the chroma signal rise time to the Luma's faster rise time the effect can be pretty much eliminated, resulting in a DVD like picture from laserdisc.

If you have a laserdisc with a set of colourbars on it you can see the problem between the Magenta and Green vertical bars quite clearly.
If you were smarter than me you could then work out a way to lower the rise time of the Luma signal with some sort of rise time acceleration and nail the halos forever.

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Thanks for answering that. Very interesting theory, but sadly its implementation is way beyond my level of ability!

The halos can be reduced by lowering the "sharpness" setting in the proc amp controls for the capture card drivers. But then, the image does not appear to contain so much detail (and I mean real detail rather than false detail from edge enhancement). This is what I did for Jedi, and several people commented that they were disappointed with the softer picture.

I haven't yet found a good filter that is able to remove the halos. And capturing a softer image then using a sharpening filter does not seem to give as good a result.

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Obviously you just need a shorter cable to make the signal travel faster...


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We used to build rise time accelerators, but a quick patent search shows that faroudja and Crystal Vision have both used a similar process in some of their standalone comb filters.
Anyone with a videophile mate got a Faroudja VS50 or Crystal Vision VPS-1?

They probably turn up on ebay or similar these days as they are not much use in the digital age to most people, and would probably be cheap. Keep yer eyes out for one.
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My JVC VHS deck has "a Y/C filtering technique incorporated under license from Faroudja
Laboratories Inc." (but I doubt whether it has the bandwidth expansion capability of the VS50).

I could try running the composite output from the D925 into the VHS deck and capturing its s-video output. But as I understand it from previous discussions, the comb filter in the LD player will have already processed and recombined the video signal, so there probably won't be any benefit. I'd be interested to do this anyway and compare some identical frames.

Or maybe I should just wait and see what the soon-to-be-released DVD looks like...

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It is easy enough to pick up the composite video before it gets recombined, do you have the 925 schematic?
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Do you mean the composite video before it gets filtered into Y/C?

No I don't have the 925 schematic.

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I was looking for schematics of the pioneer cld-2950. I found a good site I think, if the service manual contains the schematics. It's about $15 though.

Pioneer cld-d925

Is it also possible with the 2950 to pick up the composite video before it gets recombined?
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Yes I mean picking it up before it gets split into Y/C and before it gets digitised in the case on the 925.

The 925 gives some interesting possibilities, it is easy to modify to get an RGB output, and in theory you could pick up the digital signal and buffer it and do a digital capture from its internal frame buffer.
The 2950 could be modified to get the composite feed before it is split also.
Worst case you might have to put a drive transistor in to lift it to 75 ohms, but we are talking about just a few dollars.

Of course it then means that you need a capture device with a better comb filter than the one in the laserdisc player to see any benefit.
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Would anyone be able to get me the discs for these transfers?I am in the UK.Thanks!

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Nobody?As the torrents are no longer available I would like to get this set as a friend has recommended it to me.Any help would be great.

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I'd help if you were stateside, but I cants afford the postage till I get all my taxes paid off. rotten IRS!!
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Just wondering if there would be any interest in a quick patch that could be applied to ANH and TESB to increase the audio level? Or do we all watch the GOUT discs now?

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I wouldn't mind seeing these up for download one more time if someone cared to make them available again.


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Originally posted by: Moth3r
Just wondering if there would be any interest in a quick patch that could be applied to ANH and TESB to increase the audio level? Or do we all watch the GOUT discs now?


I would love to see the patches. I made a set of these for someone recently and I'd forgotten how good these transfers still are. They are much better than the PAL GOUT. I'm in NTSC land, but when I want to watch on my computer, these are the versions I go for...

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