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Most Egregious Sci-Fi "Science"

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I'm no stickler for hard sci-fi, excepting that I enjoy poking holes in the belief that Star Trek is good science to Trekkies. I don't care about explosions in space or the speed of light.

But even with my casual concern for science, sometimes it just jumps off the screen and slaps me with innacuracies that I can't just willingly suspend disbelief for, either because

  • It's so completely wrongheaded
  • The film draws so much attention to it.

 

The worst I can think of is the 1997 "Godzilla."

Heat seaking missiles cant hit Godzilla because it's "cold blooded." Which is SO TOTALLY not what coldblooded means.

Also, Matthew Broderick's character says that "Godzilla is male, but he lays eggs" which just confused the hell out of me.

What else are the worse of the worst of sci-fi science?

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TheBoost said:

Also, Matthew Broderick's character says that "Godzilla is male, but he lays eggs" which just confused the hell out of me.

What, you've never seen Junior?

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Dang!  I know I posted this elsewhere... but Star Trek is sooooo bad.  Obviously Star Wars doesn't have very good "science" but I don't think too many fans or creators claim that it does...  Star Trek is mostly just terrible.

Reverse the polarity!

Eject the Warp Cores!

The 2009 movie was especially bad, but here are my favourite moments:

1. A drop of Red Matter is enough to create a black hole, which instead of compressing matter to a really tiny size, instead opens a time portal to the past.  The later you enter the portal, the further back in time you go.  So what do the Romulans do?  Dig a hole to the center of the planet Vulcan and put a black hole in it?  So wait!  Is Vulcan destroyed, or did it just go back in time?  And black holes... is it really necessary to dig a hole in a planet so a black hole can eat it up?  Or can't they just shoot the black hole at the planet surface and assume the black hole will take care of business!

2. Kirk/Spock/somebody decides that if a drop of Red Matter can destroy the planet Vulcan, that it's a really good idea to SHOOT ALL OF IT at the Romulan mining ship.  Would they really do this, without a clear understanding of the possible conequences?  And wouldn't Spock insist they keep a little of the Red Matter around so they could study it?

3. The resulting black hole is so large that the Enterprise has a really hard time escaping the pull.  Even at Warp 9 (9 times the speed of light, mind you) they are being sucked back into the black hole.  Wait a minute!  Eject the Warp Core!  Yeah, the resulting explosion will propel them out of the pull of the black hole!  Because properly using the warp core will let you travel at 9 times the speed of light... blowing it up will cause an explosion that will propel you, at the least, several hundred miles per hour!

4. Hopefully you created that new black hole a billion light years from home, or else there may be serious consequences for known space.  But... if you ejected the Warp Core to save your ship... I guess you'll have to travel at sublight speeds the rest of the way home.  So, in a billion years when your ship finally gets home, maybe your great^264th grandkids will be able to tell the story.

Thinking man's sci-fi indeed.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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xhonzi said:

Thinking man's sci-fi indeed.

 I am not a Trek-hater on any level (well... except Voyager) but it has to be the greatest propaganda campaign in fandom that it ever had that "thinking mans" or "hard sci-fi" label at all.

 

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I actually really like most Star Trek.  The thoughts I laid out previously kept me from enjoying the new movie (And that Nimoy forgot how to play Spock) but for the most part I really do like it.  I just find the science to mostly be mumbo-jumbo.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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Ok, screw you guys, I'll post on topic.

The new Star Trek should be in my mailbox tonight.

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I hope the new Star Trek stays far away from my mailbox.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Made it mediocre and full of lens flares.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Crap!  It's probably too late to warn Netflix...

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I don't know.  Maybe you like lens flares in your mailbox.  I guess it would make it easier to see stuff in there.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Honestly I had never considered it.  Lens flares are better than bills, I suppose.

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Look at that.  We derailed the thread after all... and that wasn't even my intention...

Now I feel bad...

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Back on topic:

Everything ever said in Doctor Who ever.

"Reverse the polarity of the neutron flow!"

Even if that was an action someone could actually perform, neutrons wouldn't be polar anyway. Because they're NEUTral.  ¯\(°_o)/¯

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Nanner Split said:

Back on topic:

Booooo!  I'll make you all like me yet...

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The first thing that come to my mind took place in "Star Trek Generations", where Soran fired the rocket at the sun, and it got there a lot quicker than science would allow for...and even if the rocket was equipped with warp drive,  the effects of the sun being destroyed were still seen/felt far too soon.

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RE: Generations Rocket

Yeah, that is terrible.  I didn't even realize it until I saw it on Red Letter Media.

I also like, in Star Trek 2009 again, how young Kirk hits the brakes and isn't slowing down enough, so he jumps out of the car just as it's going over the edge, and stops on a dime.

His air brakes are better than the 4 dirt brakes on the car I guess.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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I think DragonBall is a result of time travel gone wrong. They have all these prehistoric creatures, but this weird futuristic technology. Plus, the time travel IN it is so messed up, that it actually makes sense?

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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In Power Rangers Jungle Fury episode 29. The idea that all you have to do to stop clone creation is kill the original is so wrong. Also the clones happen instantly.

...What?

...Why you looking at me like that?

*some person whispers* "Power Rangers doesn't count it'-"
Ah hogwash! If a series with a shuttle that can go to infinty, turn people into lizards loosing tounge/legs/hair, that can mate/reproduce/spawn in three days, the shuttle can withstand the forces of infinity speed, and the transformation into lizard is reversed in no time at all! Can go on to win an Emmy for that episode and, Star Trek Voyager is still considered sci-fi. Then damnit Power Rangers does too! Besides the most outrages stuff in Power Rangers happens because of a magic spell. Aside from air in space and, an atmosphere on the moon I about listed the biggest science flaws in it I think.

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How about the bus jump in Speed?  I laugh at tht every time!