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Most Baffling Complaint of a Star Wars Movie — Page 9

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Baffling complaint of the original film: Wedge is played by two actors.

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ray_afraid said:

That certain things in the films don’t make sense because the EU says they don’t.

For example, the EU said that the Rule of Two was created at the same as the Sith disappearing, while in the movies by themselves, Yoda knowing about the Rule of Two makes perfect sense.

If Plagueis shows up in the ST, not only will I refuse to watch the movies, but I won't so much as watch the trailers, either. - DuracellEnergizer

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darklordoftech said:

For example, the EU said that the Rule of Two was created at the same as the Sith disappearing, while in the movies by themselves, Yoda knowing about the Rule of Two makes perfect sense.

This has been something I’ve spent some time wondering about. I believe the EU explained this by becoming aware that the Sith survived, but killed someone who they thought was the last Sith Lord.

Though some things in the new canon do raise some questions. For example, the Sith Temple on Malachor introduced in Rebels has a series of tasks built into it necessitate two Sith working together, which seems to imply that the Temple was built by Sith who followed the Rule of Two, but since clearly a battle between an army of both Sith and Jedi took place there, it would seem to contradict that philosophy.

From the Clone Wars Episode where Yoda speaks to a vision of Darth Bane:

Yoda: Created the rule of two, you did.

Darth Bane: The Sith killed each other, victims of their own greed. But from the ashes of destruction, I was the last survivor. I chose to pass my knowledge onto only one, I created a legacy so resilient, that now you come before me.

This seems to generally match up with Bane’s Legends history.

What is weird is that Yoda seems to know the philosophy by name, and they are familiar with Darth Bane’s history and that he has a tomb on Moraband/Korriban somehow. But, in TPM, Ki-Adi-Mundi also claimed that the Sith had been extinct for a millennia.

According to Wookieepedia, the Jedi learned about the Rule of Two and Darth Bane, eventually confronted Bane and killed him, believing that they killed the Sith once and for all. But somehow, his apprentice survived and continued in secret, which explains how the Jedi know about it.

So, if they knew about the Rule of Two and killed Darth Bane, the Jedi must have believed his apprentice had also died somehow.

I hope they eventually explore this in a movie or tv-series. It would be interesting to see how they would approach this story in the new canon.

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I heard some people complaining about the Falcon breaking down so frequently in Empire.

Lord of the Rings - Principal Photography cuts (WIP):
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Lord-of-the-Rings-Trilogy-Restructured-to-match-the-Rough-cutScript/id/64399#1258894
Caligula’expanded OST, V2 Released:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Caligula-1979-Expanded-OST/id/48671
The Shining’s complete OST:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/THE-SHINING-Complete-Score/id/57316

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IsanRido said:

I heard some people complaining about the Falcon breaking down so frequently in Empire.

But that’s like one of the best parts. In a series of great parts…

Yub Nub for life

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Not sure if this is a “complaint”, but a claim I find baffling is the claim that Palpatine in the prequels was supposed to represent George W. Bush. TPM was released when Clinton was still President and AOTC was done filming when 9/11 happened.

If Plagueis shows up in the ST, not only will I refuse to watch the movies, but I won't so much as watch the trailers, either. - DuracellEnergizer

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https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2005-05-18-0505180309-story.html

“First of all we never thought of Bush ever becoming president,” “Star Wars” producer Rick McCallum said, “or then 9/11, the Patriot Act, war, weapons of mass destruction. Then suddenly you realize, Oh, my God, there's something happening that looks like we're almost prescient.' And then we thought,Well, yeah, but he’ll never make it to the second term, so we’ll look like we just made some wacky political parody of a guy that everybody’s forgotten.’”

“No matter who you look at in history, the story is always the same,” Lucas said. “That’s what’s eerie. It was a little eerie that things have developed the way they have.”

McCallum was willing to make one prediction: “There’s no question that the French are going to love the movie. We are definitely going to get the Golden Freedom Fry Award for best movie of the year, because they’ll see it exactly the way they see their relationship with us now.”

Gone fishing

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Some people have no conception of how long it actually takes to write, shoot, and produce a movie, let alone one as complex as a Star Wars film.

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Where were you in '77?

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The claim that the prequels contradict Obi-Wan saying, “I don’t remember owning a droid.” Throughout the prequels, R2 went with Anakin and was owned by him and Padmé, not Obi-Wan.

If Plagueis shows up in the ST, not only will I refuse to watch the movies, but I won't so much as watch the trailers, either. - DuracellEnergizer

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People claim that Jar Jar Binks is the worst character of the Phantom Menace (and the whole PT in general). But the worst character is Anakin Skywalker. He is the person you should rude for and in later movies you are supposed to be emotionally engaged when he gets seduced to the Dark Side. But no. In TPM he is a nine year old boy, who tells you he has been a pilot … ALL HIS LIFE … 9 YEARS OLD. George, what were you thinking?

Who needs to see Rogue One? Just play the first mission of DARK FORCES 😉
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Saw discussion elsewhere about Episode IX that inevitably turned into another TLJ bitchfest, but this comment caught my eye…

I collect Star Wars Sideshow and Hot Toys figures and regret the three that I bought from the Sequel Trilogy. If I knew TLJ was going to be so bad I never would have bought them. Hopefully Abrams can salvage the trilogy with Episode IX.

Don’t blame your spending money on super expensive action figures on the movies! Sheesh!

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For me the most baffling complaint about Star Wars has been one brought up by Jeremy Jahns about Mace Windu’s lightsaber. He was bothered about Mace’s lightsaber being purple, and that lightsaber blades should only be blue or green for the good guys and red for the bad guys. I see nothing wrong with lightsaber blades being whatever colour people want them to be. Hell, I myself would like to see an orange-bladed lightsaber introduced in the Disney canon.

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fmalover said:

For me the most baffling complaint about Star Wars has been one brought up by Jeremy Jahns about Mace Windu’s lightsaber. He was bothered about Mace’s lightsaber being purple, and that lightsaber blades should only be blue or green for the good guys and red for the bad guys. I see nothing wrong with lightsaber blades being whatever colour people want them to be. Hell, I myself would like to see an orange-bladed lightsaber introduced in the Disney canon.

The purple lightsaber makes perfect sense. Mace has a super unorthodox fighting style, so he has an unorthodox lightsaber. In my ideal canon, purple would be a rare neutral color that both Jedi and non-Sith Dark Side users would wield. IIRC Legends sort of had that with Mara Jade using a purple blade even when working for the Emperor, unless I’m completely misremembering and she only got that lightsaber when she became a Jedi.

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fmalover said:

For me the most baffling complaint about Star Wars has been one brought up by Jeremy Jahns about Mace Windu’s lightsaber. He was bothered about Mace’s lightsaber being purple, and that lightsaber blades should only be blue or green for the good guys and red for the bad guys. I see nothing wrong with lightsaber blades being whatever colour people want them to be. Hell, I myself would like to see an orange-bladed lightsaber introduced in the Disney canon.

I was only annoyed by it because every other Jedi still just had green and blue in AOTC and ROTS. At least throw a few yellow ones in there or something. Keep Mace’s purple one unique if you must, but some more variety would’ve been nice.

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Kenner sure had a thing for yellow lightsabers back in the day. 😉

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I actually really hate Mace’s saber being purple, and to a lesser extent Jedi having green and blue instead of just blue. It just comes off as an extremely awkward middle ground between uniform and diverse. A lone purple just further exasperates this point.

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ChainsawAsh said:

fmalover said:

For me the most baffling complaint about Star Wars has been one brought up by Jeremy Jahns about Mace Windu’s lightsaber. He was bothered about Mace’s lightsaber being purple, and that lightsaber blades should only be blue or green for the good guys and red for the bad guys. I see nothing wrong with lightsaber blades being whatever colour people want them to be. Hell, I myself would like to see an orange-bladed lightsaber introduced in the Disney canon.

I was only annoyed by it because every other Jedi still just had green and blue in AOTC and ROTS. At least throw a few yellow ones in there or something.

In great quantaties it was also visually pretty boring just to see green and blue light sabers.

I like that the Dark Jedi from DARK FORCES II: JEDI KNIGHT had some color variety.

Who needs to see Rogue One? Just play the first mission of DARK FORCES 😉
‘Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.’ - SilverWook

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There are several different hilt designs we’ve seen throughout the films, so different/unique colors doesn’t seem a stretch.

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ray_afraid said:

While we’re talkin’ lightsabers, the only thing that bothers me is that they always make the bad guy have a red one. And only the bad guys have red ones. That’s dumb.
Of course, that’s coincidental in the OT, so it doesn’t effect my SW world.

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Haarspalter said:

What’s the guy up front doing?? He’s about to be skewered mid-air!

And you could say it continues to work in the ST, because Rey inherited Luke’s, and Ren is A Vader wannabe.

On a related note, Star Wars is better when not everyone and his uncle has a lightsaber. That’s really the biggest problem with that scene in Clones.

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.