Mel Gibson is nuts — Page 3

Bingowings said:

 

But if there is no obvious physical peril in the situation why risk creating some for yourself over something that can eventually be replaced or the loss of it rationalised? I can't think of any inanimate object I own worth using violence to protect.

If you can prevent the situation by any non-violent means it makes sense to try but if the theft is going to happen and only an act of violence can prevent it why bother?

The criminal may get caught, or may not, notch it down to experience (sometimes unpleasant things happen).

 

All I can say is that if some a**hole breaks into my house, or tries to make off with some of my property, there will be hot lead flying close behind him. Fortunately, shooting at thieves is pretty much encouraged in my great state of Texas.

xhonzi said:

Warbler said:

then create another thread for it.

If I did that, then you'd just try to derail it with all of this Mel Gibson non-sense.  Seriously, this thread is about Tango now.

Just who do you think I am,  Frink?

*sigh*

Gaffer Tape said:

My whole point in agreeing with C3PX's statement was that I was not drawing conclusions.  I'm neither defending Mel Gibson nor am I attacking him.  I have not listened to the tapes.  Maybe if I had, I would be in more of a position to express an opinion, but please don't mistake me for doing so already because I'm not.  But even if I did, and I was repulsed by whatever statements I heard, I don't know for sure if it would be enough to pass judgment. 

only one way to know for certain.

Gaffer Tape said:

Everyone has moments of lost temper. 

and how do you know this was just one of those without listening to the tapes?

Gaffer Tape said:

There have been threads where you have lost your temper and slung vitriol (sometimes under a different alias). 

true, much to my embarrassment and regret.   But I never used the n-word and other racial slurs, nor made actual threats of violence.   Imho there is a line you don't cross, and Gibson crossed it.

Gaffer Tape said:

In this very thread, I briefly lost my own temper.  (Not to mention that in closed company, people often say politically incorrect or otherwise offensive statements.)  The point is, neither of us (I hope) are defined by it. 

perhaps Gibson is.  Its possible you might conclude that by listening to the tape.

Gaffer Tape said:

But again let me state that this is not me vindicating Mel Gibson of anything.  Like everything else I've said in this thread, it is intended to be a generalized statement intended for reflection, not necessarily a defense of Mel Gibson, a subject of which I've already admitted little real knowledge of.

basically what you are saying is "let he who is without sin, cast the first stone" which is a good point,  but does that mean that people like Hitler shouldn't be stoned? I am not saying Gibson is as bad as Hitler.   I'm just saying there the mistakes that all of us make, and then there those particularly bad evil ones that most of us avoid.   Gibson made the latter kinds of mistakes.

CompMovieGuy said:

xhonzi said:

No, I think you're a guy who refuses to change the title of the thread to "Tango (was: Mel Gibson is nuts)" when clearly more than 3% of the posts are about the Tango.  And then you insist on still posting about Mel Gibson in my Tango thread.

So this thread is now about Tango?

I'd rather watch Tango & Gibson.*

Gaffer Tape said:

 I have to point out that I have passed no judgment or opinion on Mel Gibson in either direction, yet some of your responses to my last post seem to indicate that you're getting that impression.

sorry about that,  I was confused.   It sounded like you were implying that C3PX's statement should be applied to the situation with Mel Gibson(C3PX was making the statement in regards to Gibson, and you said you agreed with C3PX's statement).   I just think that one needs to listen to the tapes before thinking that.     But again, I apologize for misunderstand you.

Gaffer Tape said:

I'll tell you what, though.  I will make an effort to listen to them tomorrow, and I'll try get back with you on a more specific level.

fair enough. 

New clip released today.

CompMovieGuy said:

OK

Mel Gibson is bad
The Gold-Digging blackmailing mail order Russian bride is worse

And thats how people see it, people dont like over the top (Gibson) but they especially dont like people who try to screw other people over and then get caught doing it (email extortion, and yes that is confirmed)

/thread

Extortion like all crimes is a matter for courts to settle, not fists and verbal insults.

The use of violence in close proximity to a child is worse than swindling anyone out any amount of money (especially someone like Gibson).

If this woman is so notorious why marry her in the first place?

Marriage is a contract with legal obligations and involves money, if you enter into a legally binding contract where loss of money is a possibility you should at least do a background check on the person you are signing on the dotted line with.

If you take that risk without taking the time to weigh up the potential losses you get what's coming to you.

Brake a deal and face the wheel Max.

Naturally when I was describing the response to being robbed I was stating my point of view, other points of view are available. I personally feel that the work of the police is difficult enough without adding needless violence into the equation.

Things are just things, they are ultimately replaceable, people are unique and in their finite lifespans have more to offer than any inanimate object. They need to be preserved and protected more than objects and cash do. Thems my principles.

Bingowings said:

If this woman is so notorious why marry her in the first place?

Because she's hot, young, and not a Jew or Black*

If he didn't marry or have a child with her he could have just moved out and let the lawyers deal with it.

He did have a child with her however and that carries legal and financial responsibilities but they too should be dealt with via the courts.

While he was still married he employed her and then entered into a relationship with her which went sour later.

Gibson still comes out of this worse.

If someone is trying to extort money out of you illegally let the lawyers sort it out and cut all ties with the person.

Violence + a child + plus sexist, racist rants on tape = Almost Worst Case Scenario (if he had murdered her as well he would have got the full set).

Gibson can afford the best common sense money can buy (advice) he should buy some of that and lay off the booze a bit more.

what he should do is seek therapy and medication.   He needs both, desperately. 

Mel Gibson quotes superimposed over cute kittens.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/the-13-worst-mel-gibson-rant-quotes-presented-by/

I can't decide if this is awesome or awful.  I'm leaning towards awesome.

It was strange to read that a William Peter Blatty (an author and director I greatly admire) is a big fan of The Passion Of The Christ.

With Mel's rantage skillz perhaps he should write the next sequel to The Exorcist.