Gaffer Tape said:
My whole point in agreeing with C3PX's statement was that I was not drawing conclusions. I'm neither defending Mel Gibson nor am I attacking him. I have not listened to the tapes. Maybe if I had, I would be in more of a position to express an opinion, but please don't mistake me for doing so already because I'm not. But even if I did, and I was repulsed by whatever statements I heard, I don't know for sure if it would be enough to pass judgment.
only one way to know for certain.
Gaffer Tape said:
Everyone has moments of lost temper.
and how do you know this was just one of those without listening to the tapes?
Gaffer Tape said:
There have been threads where you have lost your temper and slung vitriol (sometimes under a different alias).
true, much to my embarrassment and regret. But I never used the n-word and other racial slurs, nor made actual threats of violence. Imho there is a line you don't cross, and Gibson crossed it.
Gaffer Tape said:
In this very thread, I briefly lost my own temper. (Not to mention that in closed company, people often say politically incorrect or otherwise offensive statements.) The point is, neither of us (I hope) are defined by it.
perhaps Gibson is. Its possible you might conclude that by listening to the tape.
Gaffer Tape said:
But again let me state that this is not me vindicating Mel Gibson of anything. Like everything else I've said in this thread, it is intended to be a generalized statement intended for reflection, not necessarily a defense of Mel Gibson, a subject of which I've already admitted little real knowledge of.
basically what you are saying is "let he who is without sin, cast the first stone" which is a good point, but does that mean that people like Hitler shouldn't be stoned? I am not saying Gibson is as bad as Hitler. I'm just saying there the mistakes that all of us make, and then there those particularly bad evil ones that most of us avoid. Gibson made the latter kinds of mistakes.