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Max_Rebo's '97 SE superset' preservation (* unfinished project *) — Page 7

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So is there an answer to which version is best for the base of the project for each film?

Is this the preferred version for the base for each, please correct me if I am wrong.

ANH-Flunk
ESB-TB
ROTJ-TB

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On post 96 of this thread, the G'kar of Jedi is sharper than the TB. However it is filtered and the TB is not. So either one for Jedi, TB for ESB, and Flunk for ANH.

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There should also be a "Flunk version" of Empire out there, hard to find I guess and I don't know how it compares to the others.

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I doubt ESB is anywhere or it would have been uploaded as well I am guessing, but I could be wrong, actually I hope I am wrong and it does surface, the Flunk ANH looks very nice as NTSC.

msycamore you have a PM.

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You've seen the Flunk pics, right.  Some of them are a bit funky.

Not trying to dig up old problems here.  I just remember the Flunk not necessarily being all it was cracked to be.  Of course, maybe it has been fixed since then.

It has been fun looking through the old 1997 SE TB Digital Broadcast thread.

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Yes I know about those, and if you see anymore please share, I have plenty of other sources to patch in a better pic.

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Ah, cool.  I had a hunch you were on top of things.  I'll keep my eyes open.

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Sluggo said:

You've seen the Flunk pics, right.  Some of them are a bit funky.

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Oooh, the long rumored "Atari 2600 cut."

;-)

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dark_jedi said:

I doubt ESB is anywhere or it would have been uploaded as well I am guessing, but I could be wrong, actually I hope I am wrong and it does surface, the Flunk ANH looks very nice as NTSC.

msycamore you have a PM.

The "Flunk" ESB was never posted (see here).

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dark_jedi said:

I doubt ESB is anywhere or it would have been uploaded as well I am guessing, but I could be wrong, actually I hope I am wrong and it does surface, the Flunk ANH looks very nice as NTSC.

msycamore you have a PM.

I am wondering where ESB is too. According to the nfo file for Flunk ANH it says that they have Episode V but not VI. So I am assuming it must be somewhere but simply hasn't found it's way to certain places yet (maybe).

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captainsolo said:


I think it was later said
Read the thread Moth3r linked!
djdd is Flunk . . . or maybe you didn't realize that

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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The link mother provided explained that they had a DVD with ESB, but it was corrupt and couldn't be copied.

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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So does anyone know what frames max_rebo spoke of that are bad in the TB ESB version?

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Max_Rebo said:

Hi everybody,

yes this project is still ongoing although I haven’t done anything in a while.

Current status:

ESB is almost complete I just need to finish syncing the 5.1 track

ANH video is edited but it requires colour correction to match the different sources (new avisynth filter required so I need to brush up on my C++)

ROTJ is just a mess the sources are both crap in different ways so it’s not as simple as cutting between them, one source is really soft and noisey and the other is sharp but has been filtered in such a way that a lot of small details, like sparks and blaster bolts, have been lost, basically it’s anything that’s small and moves really fast, whatever filtering has been done has obviously interpreted it as dirt and removed it.

here are some examples, TB(soft and noisy) at the top, GKAR (sharp and filtered) at the bottom, in the middle is the difference between them:

If you compare the images you can see that each black blob on the middle image corresponds to a bit of debris from the explosion in the top image that is not present on the bottom image.

I don’t think this one needs any explanation.

So what I am going to do is use the GKAR as a base and then Re-composite all these missing bits back in where they should be from the TB, which sounds really difficult, but I’ve done some tests and if I’m careful I should be able to automate the process by using the middle image to generate a mask which can be used in the overlay. I’m confident this will produce good results but I need to do a few more tests first.

I will keep you posted, but don’t expect a release in the near future as I want to complete all three and release them at the same time (in case I realise something when doing ROTJ which could make ESB better)

dickalan said:

this ‘project’ is taking forever - started over a year ago!

Many thanks for your ‘useful’ comment - you have keen powers of observation!

Did this project ever see the light of day? I for one would love to see the results.