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MagnoliaFan Edits: Ep I "Balance Of The Force", and Ep II "The Clone War" (Released) — Page 22

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One thing that I think would be fun for Balance 2.0: Special Edition Turbo Hyper Fighting would be a documentary like "The Beginning" that covers a brief making and unmaking of the epic, TPM, from the legendary hype (ie: in 99, the return of Christ was named the #2 most awaited event of the 20th century, second only to the release of Star Wars Episode I), to the eventual backlash, the sharp divide between the fans, the emergence of Balance and how it redeemed faith in SW to those who had lost the faith and infuriated those who felt there was never any redeeming needed.
It's not something I would film myself, but if people gathered the footage all together, I could probably assemble an interesting hour or two out of it.

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"(ie: in 99, the return of Christ was named the #2 most awaited event of the 20th century, second only to the release of Star Wars Episode I)"

No kidding? Where was this poll taken?

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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I have about six tapes of TPM hype (That's almost 12 hours of GL asskissing, folks) that I have yet to go through. I got them in a trade LONG ago. I'll try to get to them in the next week or so and see if there is anything noteworthy as far as the "Before" factor is concerned.

I have long wanted to see just this type of documentary. Something along these lines, anyway. With all of the hype docu's that came out around the release of TPM, you would think that someone would have already done this. Guess it falls under the catagory of "I've wasted enough time on this horses**t". LOL.

A long time ago in the faraway galaxy...

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This documentary is a really good idea. Anyone in the future, looking back at the existing documentary material would think that the the PT was unanimously acclaimed, satisfying old fans and winning new - which is clearly far from the truth. Someone should make this.
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MF: Had you given any consideration to re-doing your opening crawls? They were great when they first came out, but compared to the almost official ADM versions they look rather video-gameish.
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the emergence of Balance and how it redeemed faith in SW to those who had lost the faith

LOL. Dude, why don't you just take the first three people to PM you and then just film them giving you head

It's not something I would film myself,


Of course not, someone else has to hold the camera while you dent someone's uvula.

I'm just goofin, but seriously, editing the movies for personal enjoyment is cool. Proposing a documentary be made on how your edit "changed the face of fandom" is some autofellatio that even McCallum would sneer at as being over the top. Especially since its target audience is probably about 100 people at best.

It's a fun idea, but if it ever came to fruition I'm gonna have to question some sanity around here. Not that we're not all a little kooky anyway, but man... At this point, you might as well just have the documentary be a weblink that points to this thread.
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Actually, I think the most amusing part would be interviewing the people who bash it.

People who say that I have too much time on my hands because I spent a couple hours, years ago, recutting a film.
Yet they don't understand the irony that they, themselves, have wasted years going around to messageboards bitching about the edit and saying that no one cares about it.

Seriously, the haters are more devoted than the fans ever dreamt of being. That's where the real entertainment value of such a doc would come in.

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Uh, the documentary I was supporting was:

...a documentary like "The Beginning" that covers a brief making and unmaking of the epic, TPM, from the legendary hype (ie: in 99, the return of Christ was named the #2 most awaited event of the 20th century, second only to the release of Star Wars Episode I), to the eventual backlash, the sharp divide between the fans...


but maybe The Bizzle's idea could be an easter egg?
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easter egg drop soup HAHAHAHAHAHA get it?

gralphghflmmmm.



I still think a DOCUMENTARY is going a little far. All this stuff can pretty much be summed up by a commentary and a link to this thread. Mags is gonna have a LOT of time during these movies to talk about more than what he edited.
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Originally posted by: The Bizzle
if you're trying to trick me into sucking your dick on camera, it's not gonna work


that's odd - it seems you don't oppose sucking his dick off camera
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Originally posted by: The Bizzle
easter egg drop soup HAHAHAHAHAHA get it?

gralphghflmmmm.



In the words of the immortal Willem Black, "That's beautiful, man".

A long time ago in the faraway galaxy...

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Great work on BotF, amazing how you managed to make it an enjoyable movie. Stunning really.

I'm currently trying to download the myspleen version of Clone War, could some members please seed it (or better, send me a DVD version)?

Thanks for sharing your efforts MF. Amazing.
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That version of Clone War is actually pretty obselete now. I began working on what was intended to be a cleaned up DL dvd release of the original edit and suddenly found myself going in a re-editing my re-edit. Since I completed CW before Balance, my skills weren't exactly at their peak when I made it the first time. There were a lot of bad dialogue moments that I couldn't think of ways to tighten up at the time, which came pretty easily now. The new CW will be out in the relatively near future.

But I have another DVDR+DL piece of childhood raping fun that will be out much sooner:

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - MAGNOLIAFAN SPECIAL EDITION
The film itself is the 2004 dvd version with a subtle overhaul.
There are two versions of the score to choose from (more info below).
Two lines were trimmed a tad to fit with the whole concept of viewing 1-6 in order and preserving what was voted as the second greatest moment in the history of cinema. The omissions are not really all that noticable.
The Wampa scene has been recut to match the original theatrical version stylistically but with the visual effects (well, 1 shot, anyway) of the Special Edition, and all of the sound effects have been resynched, as most of the scene's sound effects were all screwed up.
Han gets "the shelter built".
Obi-Wan's ghost now has an alternate line, telling Luke of Yoda, "A Jedi Master that instructed me".
The "first transport is away" voice from the theatrical version has been restored.
Artoo "doesn't taste very good".
Two versions of the Fett man to choose from. (more info below)
Vader's audience with the Emperor has been re-cut to match the flow of the original, and the Emperor's hologram has been darkened to better match the look of the original scene. Also, though completely by accident, a new plot twist was introduced to the OT. The reason why the Emperor has no problem letting Vader and Luke potentially kill each other makes a little more sense.
The "Who are you!?" stormtrooper who blasts Threepio's voice has been restored from the original edition.
The amazing disappearing window in Cloud City has been removed.
The sabers are all fixed.
Vader no longer asks to "Alert his star destroyer". The original "bring my shuttle" line has been restored. The last few frames of the shot are cut so that he is no longer walking out to the landing platform. All of the SE "Vader travelling to the Star Destroyer" scenes are cut except one shot of the shuttle in flight.
There are a few other little things here and there, but that is all of the noticable stuff.

Special Features thus far Include:
-Watch the film with the vintage Boba Fett voice or a digitally tweaked version of Morrison's 2004 voice, altered to closer match the original in speech patterns and performance
-Watch the film with either Boba Fett voice and your choice of the original theatrical score, or with all of the deleted music cues restored into the film
- Vintage Laserdisc Audio Commentary Track
- 2004 Audio Commentary Track
- Isolated Score
- 2 Deleted / Alternate Scenes
- A Couple Goofy Easter Eggs

The one thing I was thinking about working more on is that the LD commentary is pretty weak. There are LONG stretches of silence between comments. Anyone around here have any good sound bites from the cast and/or crew to add into the dead spaces to fill it out? Hammil, Ford, Fisher, and Billy Dee would be especially great to mix into it.

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That sounds about perfect
I want to give a 10 disc boxt set of what I think are the best versions of each film, + bonus discs, as Christmas presents. I've got my Star Wars and there's my Empire, I hope?
How does one get hold of the best film ever made on dvd as sweet as this?

Please sir?

How?

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Wow MagnoliaFan, looks like you've gone all out on your ESB. I can't wait for it and your other eventual re-edits to be released.

Oh, and I recall a long time ago you had considered re-titling the OT, except for ESB which is perfect. Is that still the plan or have you changed your mind?
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I got copies of BotF and CW yesterday (promptly sent to me by bwlag).
I want to PIF to at least one member, so send me a PM if you're interested.

Note that MF says above CW will be updated soon so you'd probably want to wait for his new version instead...

Once again, in my eyes these edits improve vastly on the originals.
Thanks to MF & bwlag!
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MagFan,

looks like this thread could help you fill in the LD commentary blanks.
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Thanks, THX. I'll check it out.
I already, just now, dropped the "Put Captain Cargo in the Solo hold" interview piece into the classic commentary.

As I near completion on the final disc, I did streamlineit a little bit in order to fit it onto a dvdr-dl... It's amazing that 8 gigs just isn't enough space... lol

As it goes now, there are six audio tracks over the film:
~Vintage Audio Track (after the pre SE version)
~Vintage Audio Track With Restored Music Score
~2004 Special Edition Audio Track (includes a digitally altered Morrison as Boba Fett, and alternate dialogue here and there.
~Vintage Audio Commentary (from the Def Collection Laserdiscs + some new additions)
~2004 Audio Commentary
~Isolated Score

There are also 2 Deleted/Alternate scenes and a couple easter eggs.

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Oh man, that sounds juicy. Can't wait to get a copy!

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MF, have you gotten my DVDs yet?

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Well, howdy all! This is my first post here, although I've been lurking for a few days after being pointed here by one of the fine fiolks at rpgnet.

Let me just say that this site, and these re-edits, and the fact that peopel do them, and the people that do them, are all very, very cool.

YEARS ago, in the ancient days of the mid-'80s, when dinosaurs ruled the earth, I did a re-edit of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, shaving about 45 minutes out of it, which helped. The version on the new(ish) Director's Edition dvd well makes up for the fact that that old edit of mine no longer exists. This was before DVDs, in fact before digital anything. Well, okay, I bought my first cd thje same year (it was either ELO's "Out of the Blue" or Van Halen's "Diver Down"), and about 10 years before I would own my own computer, back when diskette's and Syquest discs were really cool. I'm just now getting to a point in terms of hardware and software where I'm able to look into doing re-edits again. I love movies and I love Star Wars. I was the only person I knew who knew about A New Hope before it came out, because I had a subscription to Starlog magazine. I saw it 7 times at the theatre, riding my bike five miles there and back every time, and it probably changed my life, or at least cemented me into alife of geekdom, just in case years of Star Trek reruns and Planet of the Apes movies hadn't already done that. I went to film school for a couple of years, with dreams of making Lord of the Rings movies. Peter Jackson seems to have taken care of that fairly well (though I'd still like to see a 40-hour BBC miniseries version!). Currently I work as a professional illustrator, graphic designer, and (mostly) as a comic book colorist. I'm currently looking into SiteGRinder as a way to design websites straight from Photoshop (with which I am a bit of wiz, if I may say so). I have a wife and two kids, and am trying to figure out how old they have to be to watch ANH...

Why all that? Well, I didn't want anyone to think I was just some greedy schlmeil off the streets when I say that I'd saw off a leg for DVDs of MagnoliaFan's latest versions of Balance of the Force and Clone War and...whatver else he has. Looks like he has ESB in the can (?). Either leg will do - I make a living sitting.

Some kind soul could PM me.
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