Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Extended Edition coming to Blu-Ray — Page 4

I haven't watched LOTR in ages, and never seen the Blu rays. Are colors on Extended Edition DVDs faithful to 35mm?

Well, I don't think anyone knows for sure but I think it's quite safe to assume, that they are far closer to 35mm, than the EE BD.

Well, yes but simply getting rid of the green tint is something I did in ffdshow settings every time I watched the official BD but the colr-timing has been changed far beyond just the green push - the original timing was far more stylized than the EE BD, which has a more real-life look to it once you get rid of the green tint, so what I'd like to see would be a version with the true original colors or at least close to them - I wanted to try doing this myself but I'm quite busy with real-life stuff and other projects and I know there are people who are much better at color correction than I am.

As there are several BD editions of the trilogy, I can't remember which one has EE (Edge Enhancement) and which not... IIRC the extended edition has EE, while the theatrical cut not... am I right?

I don't think there's a big edge enhancement problem in either release but if there is some edge enhancement, it's likely in the theatrical version, which also sufferes from extensive DVNR.

So, the extended edition has no (or low?) EE and DVNR, while the color grading is different from the extended DVD, right?

Yes, the EE of FOTR is a far superior transfer but with screwed up colors.

Mmmhh... what if... you know... (-^,)

Huh?

Well... color regrading the EE using the TC as color reference...

Well, that's obvious but are you going to do it?  It's not going to be easy due to both the length of the movie and the fact that the colors of the EE are so destroyed, that certain levels are completely gone.

As I stated in the list of my future project, LOTR trilogy is one I'd like to do, even because the Italian audio track on BD has the wrong pitch, where the DVD got the right one.

I have a very good idea to recover almost all the image quality, at least in the scenes present in both EE and TC, but frankly I'd like to make further testing to be sure I could make a good job - because it will take so many time, and I'm still stuck with this tiny monitor...

kk650 made a very good job with it, but my project will be a bit different: the mission will be to replicate as close as possible the DVD color grading, using the BD as source (and also HDTV, if necessary).

Well, it seems like you may have had the same idea as I did a while ago - I thought about layering the theatrical BD over the Extended one for the Theatrical scenes and then setting the blending mode of the theatrical BD video to color but I did some tests and it wasn't quite so easy, because the cropping is very different, where the OT BD is more cropped on the right and less on the left than the EE BD (or the other way round, I don't temeber exactly), so you have to crop the EE footage quite a bit for this approach to work, plus the cropping difference isn't consistent troughout, so you'd have to readjust the overlay shot by shot and even the warping is slightly different, so this approach is problematic at best.

...I thought it to be too good to be true! (xx/)

TV's Frink said:

analog said:

Darn phone. Got, not for. That's what I get for using Swype in a hurry.

 Ok fine, but what the hell is kk?

 kk650?

To think even a digital freak like Peter Jackson shot 35mm once upon a time :(!I remember hearing that the EE Blu-rays were taken right of the DI as opposed to how the DVD transfers were done (Telecine?), but there was controversy aboutover-saturated  greens on FOTR BR. I doubt WB want to fix it,especially with the market for physical media about to die. Flaws and all (and there are many, particularly in the new trilogy which could've and should've been one three-hour film at most), I love the hell out of these movies anyway, and continue to pay for The Lord of Excess' extended cuts ;). I'm waiting on the inevitable mega-Middle Earth boxed set (Which God willing, will have ALL of the extras, UV copies, the works), but given that the EE of DOS won't be of until December, the EE of BOFA will probably be NEXT December, and the boxed set some time after that. And man alive, is that a long ass wait :(. And try renting the EE's right when they come out just to see what's new, it's a bitch. Managed to get the last one at a library by carefully watching when it was returned and driving out. 

Harmy said:

Well, it seems like you may have had the same idea as I did a while ago - I thought about layering the theatrical BD over the Extended one for the Theatrical scenes and then setting the blending mode of the theatrical BD video to color but I did some tests and it wasn't quite so easy, because the cropping is very different, where the OT BD is more cropped on the right and less on the left than the EE BD (or the other way round, I don't temeber exactly), so you have to crop the EE footage quite a bit for this approach to work, plus the cropping difference isn't consistent troughout, so you'd have to readjust the overlay shot by shot and even the warping is slightly different, so this approach is problematic at best.

What if you just replaced as much EE as possible with the theatrical BD? Restoring the original color to the extended/deleted scenes would probably require good image registration software, but is there a quality difference between the two Blu-rays which would make this unfeasible?

Well, as was mentioned before, the theatrical BD looks like ass because of DVNR.

Yowza....