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DominicCobb said:

Dek Rollins said:

I get “the Last” part now, but I don’t remember there being a sunset shot. 😉

That one doesn’t count!!!

*Throws tantrum*

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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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I’ve never heard anyone refer to Indiana Jones as a “story.” It’s really weird considering that none of the three movies even directly reference the existence of the others.

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moviefreakedmind said:

I’ve never heard anyone refer to Indiana Jones as a “story.” It’s really weird considering that none of the three movies even directly reference the existence of the others.

Indy knows what the Ark looks like in a nod in Last Crusade.

And of course they aren’t literally a single continuous story, but I assumed everyone here is smart enough to figure out what I meant. They are three selective stories from the life of a character, and they all add into a good overall thingamajig.

Army of Darkness: The Medieval Deadit | The Terminator - Color Regrade | The Wrong Trousers - Audio Preservation
SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Dek Rollins said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’ve never heard anyone refer to Indiana Jones as a “story.” It’s really weird considering that none of the three movies even directly reference the existence of the others.

Indy knows what the Ark looks like in a nod in Last Crusade.

And of course they aren’t literally a single continuous story, but I assumed everyone here is smart enough to figure out what I meant. They are three selective stories from the life of a character, and they all add into a good overall thingamajig.

To me it’s like complaining that the James Bond “story” is finished and doesn’t need to be continued. Knowing what the ark looks like isn’t a plot development. That’s why I said they don’t “directly” reference the others. I assumed everyone would be smart enough to figure that out.

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Dek Rollins said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’ve never heard anyone refer to Indiana Jones as a “story.” It’s really weird considering that none of the three movies even directly reference the existence of the others.

Indy knows what the Ark looks like in a nod in Last Crusade.

And of course they aren’t literally a single continuous story, but I assumed everyone here is smart enough to figure out what I meant. They are three selective stories from the life of a character, and they all add into a good overall thingamajig.

Huh, just like the fourth one then.

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TV’s Frink said:

Dek Rollins said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’ve never heard anyone refer to Indiana Jones as a “story.” It’s really weird considering that none of the three movies even directly reference the existence of the others.

Indy knows what the Ark looks like in a nod in Last Crusade.

And of course they aren’t literally a single continuous story, but I assumed everyone here is smart enough to figure out what I meant. They are three selective stories from the life of a character, and they all add into a good overall thingamajig.

Huh, just like the fourth one then.

But, like I already said, the fourth is out of place because it occurs after the third, which was artistically designed to be the last one when it was made, regardless of any other scripts that were thrown around in the mid 90s.

Army of Darkness: The Medieval Deadit | The Terminator - Color Regrade | The Wrong Trousers - Audio Preservation
SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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And you keep ignoring the fact that the second Star Wars movie occurs after the first, which was artistically designed to be the last one when it was made, but you do you.

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TV’s Frink said:

And you keep ignoring the fact that the second Star Wars movie occurs after the first, which was artistically designed to be the last one when it was made, but you do you.

No, it wasn’t. It was artistically designed to be self-contained, but there was always a plan to give it sequels if the money flowed that way. You’re creating a false equivalence.

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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Dek Rollins said:

TV’s Frink said:

Dek Rollins said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’ve never heard anyone refer to Indiana Jones as a “story.” It’s really weird considering that none of the three movies even directly reference the existence of the others.

Indy knows what the Ark looks like in a nod in Last Crusade.

And of course they aren’t literally a single continuous story, but I assumed everyone here is smart enough to figure out what I meant. They are three selective stories from the life of a character, and they all add into a good overall thingamajig.

Huh, just like the fourth one then.

But, like I already said, the fourth is out of place because it occurs after the third, which was artistically designed to be the last one when it was made, regardless of any other scripts that were thrown around in the mid 90s.

“The third one was designed to be the last one regardless of the fact that shortly after it came out they started thinking about a sequel and regardless of the fact that there’s nothing in the movie itself that makes it the last one.”

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“I believe that Buckaroo Banzai Against the World Crime League is a movie that exists because its predecessor was designed to have a sequel.”

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DominicCobb said:

Dek Rollins said:

TV’s Frink said:

Dek Rollins said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’ve never heard anyone refer to Indiana Jones as a “story.” It’s really weird considering that none of the three movies even directly reference the existence of the others.

Indy knows what the Ark looks like in a nod in Last Crusade.

And of course they aren’t literally a single continuous story, but I assumed everyone here is smart enough to figure out what I meant. They are three selective stories from the life of a character, and they all add into a good overall thingamajig.

Huh, just like the fourth one then.

But, like I already said, the fourth is out of place because it occurs after the third, which was artistically designed to be the last one when it was made, regardless of any other scripts that were thrown around in the mid 90s.

"The third one was designed to be the last one

Yes.

regardless of the fact that shortly after it came out they started thinking about a sequel

This doesn’t change anything about the fact that the third film was supposed to be the last, when it was completed. If a fourth installment had come out in 1996, while it would’ve undoubtedly been better than Skull is, it still wouldn’t have been a good idea in my opinion.

and regardless of the fact that there’s nothing in the movie itself that makes it the last one."

There is. It’s quite obvious in the film as well as by the word of Spielberg himself that the ride into the sunset was deliberately used for that purpose, and of course to a lesser importance, the title. I honestly don’t understand how this is even an argument.

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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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DominicCobb said:

“I believe that Buckaroo Banzai Against the World Crime League is a movie that exists because its predecessor was designed to have a sequel.”

This joke has nothing to do with this conversation. I never said that Star Wars Episode XI is a movie that exists just because Lucas wanted a fluctuating number of sequels for Star Wars.

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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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I’m sure Bladerunner wasn’t designed to have a sequel made thirty-five years later, but it still got one and that doesn’t mean it was bad or anything. I don’t even like the fourth Indy movie and I don’t rewatch it ever when I revisit the series, but that’s because I don’t like it, not because it was a needless sequel. Rocky also was much more obviously concluded with the intent that it wouldn’t have a sequel. “There ain’t gonna be no rematch.” “Don’t want one.” But we got six anyway and some of them are great. It isn’t like they made a sequel to Dances with Wolves or anything ridiculous like that.

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“Sean Connery was only ever in five Bond movies because You Only Live Twice was designed to be his last one.”

Star Wars is only three six movies because Return of the Jedi Revenge of the Sith was designed to be the last one.”

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Dek Rollins said:

DominicCobb said:

“I believe that Buckaroo Banzai Against the World Crime League is a movie that exists because its predecessor was designed to have a sequel.”

This joke has nothing to do with this conversation. I never said that Star Wars Episode XI is a movie that exists just because Lucas wanted a fluctuating number of sequels for Star Wars.

This joke has nothing to do with Episode IX. I’m simply saying whether or not a sequel exists has nothing to do with what the filmmakers had in mind. Not a hard concept to grasp.

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DominicCobb said:

“Sean Connery was only ever in five Bond movies because You Only Live Twice was designed to be his last one.”

Star Wars is only three six movies because Return of the Jedi Revenge of the Sith was designed to be the last one.”

Exactly. There are numerous examples just like this.

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moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

“Sean Connery was only ever in five Bond movies because You Only Live Twice was designed to be his last one.”

Star Wars is only three six movies because Return of the Jedi Revenge of the Sith was designed to be the last one.”

Exactly. There are numerous examples just like this.

Didn’t you know that if a film ends with characters riding into the sunset that it’s not allowed to have a sequel?

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You guys are completely overlooking Dek’s argument. He’s not saying simply that it the Last Crusade wasn’t meant to have a sequel, but that the film was explicitly designed to preclude the plausibility of a sequel. While you can say the former about Star Wars, you cannot say the latter. Very different arguments.

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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DominicCobb said:

“Sean Connery was only ever in five Bond movies because You Only Live Twice was designed to be his last one.”

Star Wars is only three six movies because Return of the Jedi Revenge of the Sith was designed to be the last one.”

False equivalence. What in YOLT gets in the way of the possibility of another Connery movie? I don’t recall any Connery going off into the sunset moment. Indeed, the character remains alive and well.

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

You guys are completely overlooking Dek’s argument. He’s not saying simply that it the Last Crusade wasn’t meant to have a sequel, but that the film was explicitly designed to preclude the plausibility of a sequel. While you can say the former about Star Wars, you cannot say the latter. Very different arguments.

Well then you could make that argument about ROTJ instead of ESB, and I still think it’s nonsense.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

You guys are completely overlooking Dek’s argument. He’s not saying simply that it the Last Crusade wasn’t meant to have a sequel, but that the film was explicitly designed to preclude the plausibility of a sequel. While you can say the former about Star Wars, you cannot say the latter. Very different arguments.

Actually, you can definitely say that about Return of the Jedi.

EDIT: Frink beat me to it.

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