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Into Darkness does for TWOK what Force Awakens does for ANH.
I defend STID but TFA was much better.
Into Darkness does for TWOK what Force Awakens does for ANH.
The Person in Question
Into Darkness does for TWOK what Force Awakens does for ANH.
I defend STID but TFA was much better.
Then you have Khan’s miracle blood that can bring people back from the dead. Solely introduced just so they can ripoff WoK and then immediately bring the character back to life afterward. Completely undermines the scene and is unfathomably cheap. Then the miracle cure for death is immediately swept under the rug and will never be brought up again.
I’ll agree that was pretty bad.
I won’t even get into the idiocy of Benedict as Kahn.
Please do.
Into Darkness does for TWOK what Force Awakens does for ANH.
I defend STID but TFA was much better.
I disagree. Unlike Into Darkness, I have no desire to see TFA again, or at least not anytime soon.
The Person in Question
You’re in the minority there.
As someone who isn’t a Trek fan in the least I liked the first JJ Abrams Star Trek movie (though mostly because it was a lot like Star Wars) so given me not caring about the source material should I watch STID?
You’re in the minority there.
So what?
The Person in Question
I don’t think there was much of a point there; he was just saying it.
Yep.
The Bourne Identity (2002) - 8/10
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As someone who isn’t a Trek fan in the least I liked the first JJ Abrams Star Trek movie (though mostly because it was a lot like Star Wars) so given me not caring about the source material should I watch STID?
Sure.
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My problems with Into Darkness all center around the unbelievably poor writing. Abrams has a long history of employing bad writers and then overcoming that with style over substance. To him, as long as it feels right, it doesn’t matter if it makes sense. The writers don’t have even a basic grasp of science. Back in the first film, a single star goes supernova and that literally threatens THE ENTIRE GALAXY.
Look at the introduction of interplanetary transporters. It’s incredibly stupid and something that’s far too advanced for even that period of time. Just transporting something between two planets in the same system would be miraculous but to do that between planets that are in completely separate quadrants of the galaxy? Virtually impossible. Not to mention the rippling effects that would have on galactic civilization as a whole. Who needs starships when you can beam to wherever you need to go even if its on the other side of the galaxy.
Then you have Khan’s miracle blood that can bring people back from the dead. Solely introduced just so they can ripoff WoK and then immediately bring the character back to life afterward. Completely undermines the scene and is unfathomably cheap. Then the miracle cure for death is immediately swept under the rug and will never be brought up again.
I won’t even get into the idiocy of Benedict as Kahn. It was a crap script for a crap movie.
We just watched it again and really enjoyed it. The miracle cure didn’t even bother me as much this time.
I showed my wife this post. Her three word response: “Haters gonna hate.”
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I think it was a mixed bag. Cumberbatch’s performance as Kahn was good but once again is undermined by the original. The protagonist’s sacrifice was well done but was way too close to the original. Some moments were really dumb too, like when the blonde chick suddenly strips down and we see her in her underwear for no reason at all, that doesn’t seem like Star Trek to me. I really like the action sequences though, namely the space jump scene. Overall I think it’s ok and someone’s currently working on a fanedit based on my suggestion to remove all of the Kahn related elements and references so I think that’ll be an improvement.
Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329
Hmm… I really like that idea on paper but a villain with no name? Sounds kinda meh.
But then again I liked Nemesis so what do I know.
(Its not my favorite, but I do enjoy it.)
A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (1987)
Enjoyed it a lot, I can see why it’s considered the “fan favourite.” The performances were all good, no real standouts, other than Robert Englund, who’s not in it much, and unlike the original he wasn’t spectacular when he was on screen. The characters were all developed well enough, though some came across as cliches and little more than an excuse to have a flashy death scene (which were all creative and my favourite parts of the film). It was also stuffed full of eighty’s cheese, which means that it hasn’t aged well at all. But overall it was very fun and had some great practical effects.
7/10
Not enough people read the EU.
Hmm… I really like that idea on paper but a villain with no name? Sounds kinda meh.
But then again I liked Nemesis so what do I know.
(Its not my favorite, but I do enjoy it.)
They actually just use his fake name “John Harrison” instead, still pretty lame though.
Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329
My problems with Into Darkness all center around the unbelievably poor writing. Abrams has a long history of employing bad writers and then overcoming that with style over substance. To him, as long as it feels right, it doesn’t matter if it makes sense. The writers don’t have even a basic grasp of science. Back in the first film, a single star goes supernova and that literally threatens THE ENTIRE GALAXY.
Look at the introduction of interplanetary transporters. It’s incredibly stupid and something that’s far too advanced for even that period of time. Just transporting something between two planets in the same system would be miraculous but to do that between planets that are in completely separate quadrants of the galaxy? Virtually impossible. Not to mention the rippling effects that would have on galactic civilization as a whole. Who needs starships when you can beam to wherever you need to go even if its on the other side of the galaxy.
Then you have Khan’s miracle blood that can bring people back from the dead. Solely introduced just so they can ripoff WoK and then immediately bring the character back to life afterward. Completely undermines the scene and is unfathomably cheap. Then the miracle cure for death is immediately swept under the rug and will never be brought up again.
I won’t even get into the idiocy of Benedict as Kahn. It was a crap script for a crap movie.
Not enough people read the EU.
My problems with Into Darkness all center around the unbelievably poor writing. Abrams has a long history of employing bad writers and then overcoming that with style over substance. To him, as long as it feels right, it doesn’t matter if it makes sense. The writers don’t have even a basic grasp of science. Back in the first film, a single star goes supernova and that literally threatens THE ENTIRE GALAXY.
Look at the introduction of interplanetary transporters. It’s incredibly stupid and something that’s far too advanced for even that period of time. Just transporting something between two planets in the same system would be miraculous but to do that between planets that are in completely separate quadrants of the galaxy? Virtually impossible. Not to mention the rippling effects that would have on galactic civilization as a whole. Who needs starships when you can beam to wherever you need to go even if its on the other side of the galaxy.
Then you have Khan’s miracle blood that can bring people back from the dead. Solely introduced just so they can ripoff WoK and then immediately bring the character back to life afterward. Completely undermines the scene and is unfathomably cheap. Then the miracle cure for death is immediately swept under the rug and will never be brought up again.
I won’t even get into the idiocy of Benedict as Kahn. It was a crap script for a crap movie.
Hahahaha.
A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (1987)
Enjoyed it a lot, I can see why it’s considered the “fan favourite.” The performances were all good, no real standouts, other than Robert Englund, who’s not in it much, and unlike the original he wasn’t spectacular when he was on screen. The characters were all developed well enough, though some came across as cliches and little more than an excuse to have a flashy death scene (which were all creative and my favourite parts of the film). It was also stuffed full of eighty’s cheese, which means that it hasn’t aged well at all. But overall it was very fun and had some great practical effects.
7/10
Just aw this for the first time not too long ago myself. It’s a boatload of fun, and not to be missed if you can handle 80’s camp. “Welcome to Primetime, BITCH!”
A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em
A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (1987)
Enjoyed it a lot, I can see why it’s considered the “fan favourite.” The performances were all good, no real standouts, other than Robert Englund, who’s not in it much, and unlike the original he wasn’t spectacular when he was on screen. The characters were all developed well enough, though some came across as cliches and little more than an excuse to have a flashy death scene (which were all creative and my favourite parts of the film). It was also stuffed full of eighty’s cheese, which means that it hasn’t aged well at all. But overall it was very fun and had some great practical effects.
7/10
Just aw this for the first time not too long ago myself. It’s a boatload of fun, and not to be missed if you can handle 80’s camp. “Welcome to Primetime, BITCH!”
I remember seeing this one in the theater with a bunch of my collage friends back in 1987. What a blast! I have not seen it since and wonder if I should just keep my good memories intact and just let it be.
“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison
Needless to say, Nightmare on Elm Street 3 is one of my favourite movies.
Star Trek (2009)
I didn’t enjoy it as much as Into Darkness, mostly because of its lack of emotional moments compared to that film, the storybeing less engaging, and most characters other than Kirk and Spock being background noise, given little to do. The visual look of the film is fantastic, with great set design, and a brilliant combination of practical effects and CGI. Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto fill their characters well and are very well fleshed out, I love seeing the origins of their friendship. Thd villain isn’t as interesting as Khan in the sequel, but is passable (I love how desperate he is at the end to kill Spock). Leonard Nimoy’s role is great, and I love how he does the monologue at the end. All in all, though I didn’t love it, I enjoyed it immensely and had a lot of fun with it.
7/10
Not enough people read the EU.
Needless to say, Nightmare on Elm Street 3 is one of my favourite movies.
Really can’t blame you. I wish more sequels were like it; not copying the original, but staying true to it and building on what was established in it.
Not enough people read the EU.
Idk if you streamed it or got the disc, but the trek special features are definitely worth watching. So much more of the effects are practical than I realized on first viewing.
Star Trek Beyond (2016)
Ugh, so disappointing. There were some good parts, but overall it was meh to annoying. Way too much action, especially because it was all shaky-cam and confusing closeup choreography. Idris Elba was completely wasted in this film, unfortunately. And it was too long. One of those movies where I kept hoping it would get better but it never really did.
5.9/10