Wolfman said:
The new re-design Batgirl costume. What a pile of bat droppings!
Ah, modern comics and their shitty efforts to make costumes more "realistic". I can imagine a better looking costume that achieves realism without sacrificing the aesthetics of the original costume.
Basically what is happening is re-vamp of the whole comic. Barbara Gordon is going to lose all her possessions in a fire. She then relocates outside Gotham and goes back to school, blah,blah...
They are going to change the tone of the comic because they think that since the New 52 reboot, the comic is too dark in story. So with this new storyline they will lighten things up. The costume is all about being a trendy 21 year old and the little girls will like it and it is good for cosplay!
Interview with new creative team...
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54859
When the current story ends, that's me out as well.
That's kind of a shame. I had heard great things about Gail Simone's run on Batgirl. To be honest, though I like that costume. It screams Yvonne Craig, but without all the glitter of the '60s. Plus, less spandex on women is always okay on my book. It's only used to highlight their, eh-hem, "assets" in a way that we're meant to appreciate.
A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em
Yvonne Craig wouldn't be caught dead in that outfit. It's too cluttered, and the eye holes are too damn big. Don't get me started on those damn work boots. Those shoelaces are going to be her downfall. They cry out for the Joker to tie them together.
The only way this outfit gets a pass, is if it's her first attempt at a costume and she upgrades along the way.
I need to look at a real Batgirl now to cleanse my eyes...
Ah, much better!
Where were you in '77?
SilverWook said:
I need to look at a real Batgirl now to cleanse my eyes...
Ah, much better!
Ahh, yes that's more like it.
I wonder if Batgirls new boots are steel toecaps for busting skulls ?
I was more referring to the color scheme, I'm not generally a Batgirl person (barring the excellent Animated Series), as by as the time I was born she was Oracle.
I'll wait to see how it looks in the comic before I totally pass judgment. Concept art doesn't always reflect the art style of the comic itself. I take more issue with the style rather than the costume.
A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em
SilverWook said:
I need to look at a real Batgirl now to cleanse my eyes...
Ah, much better!
Eh, I prefer the comic book version.
After all, redheads look better in black than purple. ;-P
DuracellEnergizer said:
SilverWook said:
I need to look at a real Batgirl now to cleanse my eyes...
Ah, much better!
Eh, I prefer the comic book version.
After all, redheads look better in black than purple. ;-P
I guess it all depends on which one you saw first as a kid. ;)
Where were you in '77?
Apart from Batgirl from the tv series, I was reading some of the Batman comics in the 70's and they used to sometimes have a short Batgirl story at the end.
I have this comic. This page from Giant Size Batman Family.
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Since I've been reading a lot of comics over the past couple of months, I thought I'd make a few posts about most of them and give my basic opinion on each of them.
Post #1: Spider-Girl #½-24 & Annual 1999
Before I begin, I'd just like to recount my own personal history involving this series.
To make a long story short, Ben Reilly was my Spider-Man growing up as a kid in the '90s and I was completely pissed off when he was re-retconned back into a clone, ignominously killed off, and re-replaced by Peter. In hindsight, I realize the Clone Saga was 70% crap and that Ben should never have been retconned into being the original Peter in the first place, but still, I was angry and disappointed that a character I sympathized with and enjoyed reading about was all but erased from existence as if he had never been (I'm still angry about it, to be perfectly honest, but that's another story for another time.).
Anyway, even though my Spider-Man was dead and dust filling someone's ashtray, I continued to read the books. While I'll admit they weren't all that bad -- at least not in the beginning -- they just didn't hold the same spark for me. The sudden, abrupt departure of too many regular artists at one time -- Mark Bagley, Sal Buscema, and Dan Jurgens -- also left me feeling as if I'd been picked up and dropped into a whole 'nother universe that was weird and strange to me.
Moving on, my dissatisfaction for the Spidey titles kicked into overdrive when two things happened: Norman Osborn became a poor man's Lex Luthor who was everywhere all the time and Aunt May was "resurrected". The latter development, in particular, left me feeling sick inside; that was when it fully sunk in that nothing that ever happened in comics mattered a damn because anything progressive -- anything that caused characters to actually grow and change -- that a creator could ever bring to the table was just going to be swept under the rug once another creator who hated it came along (I'm looking at you, Mr. John "The-Status-Quo-Is-God-Unless-I-Don't-Want-It-To-Be" Byrne.).
Suffice it to say, my status as a Spidey fan was pretty much dead at the time and I had all but given up reading the comics. Then I happened to see the comic above on the spinner rack of one of the local grocery stores.
As a typically sexist boy who thought girls were icky, I didn't read many comics focusing of superheroines. Truth be told, I probably wouldn't have bothered picking up the comic above save for one thing: the Ben Reilly suit. Yep, I bought the comic because of the suit Spider-Girl was wearing, a suit belonging to my Spider-Man, the Spider-Man the writers had decided to treat -- and dispose of -- like shit. My interest piqued, I just had to take a look through it.
Suffice it to say (again), Spider-Girl turned out to be the exact comic I needed to read at the time. There was no angsty bullshit about Osborns and Goblins and genetically engineered actresses, there was just a lot of action and humour and a respect for what had came before. Having re-read those comics now, at the point in my life where I am now surrounded by a bunch of deconstructed, decompressed garbage written for stupid man-children who like seeing their favourite characters derailed, assassinated, and raped, that opinion has only been reinforced a hundredfold.
tl;dr version: I love these comics -- I love the characters, I love the humour, and I love the lack of brutal violence, gore, and stupid decompression -- and I'm going to continue reading the series until the final issue. Then, if things are still running smoothly, I'm going to move on to the spinoff titles Amazing Spider-Girl and Spectacular Spider-Girl.
The complete 'Rogue Trooper' volume 2. I have volume 1 but I found this in my local library.
The stories suffer from the early 2000AD style where they recap last week's story in the first two pages like a soap opera. It would be fun to read back in the day in the weekly format but having to re-read the same bits twice every 10 pages grates in a compendium edition.
But that aside Cam Kennedy's stark black and white drawings are stunning. So simple but full of action and expression even down to the emotion in Rogue's hollow white eyes. It's even better than Dave Gibbons' artwork from volume 1, if such a thing is possible. I loved all the little play-on-words Nu-Earth locations too like 'The Gasbah' and Vietnam-transposed-to-the-future refrences.
It also made me want to play the classic stealth-combat PC again all over again too.
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DuracellEnergizer said:
Since I've been reading a lot of comics over the past couple of months, I thought I'd make a few posts about most of them and give my basic opinion on each of them.
Post #1: Spider-Girl #½-24 & Annual 1999
Before I begin, I'd just like to recount my own personal history involving this series.
To make a long story short, Ben Reilly was my Spider-Man growing up as a kid in the '90s and I was completely pissed off when he was re-retconned back into a clone, ignominously killed off, and re-replaced by Peter. In hindsight, I realize the Clone Saga was 70% crap and that Ben should never have been retconned into being the original Peter in the first place, but still, I was angry and disappointed that a character I sympathized with and enjoyed reading about was all but erased from existence as if he had never been (I'm still angry about it, to be perfectly honest, but that's another story for another time.).
Anyway, even though my Spider-Man was dead and dust filling someone's ashtray, I continued to read the books. While I'll admit they weren't all that bad -- at least not in the beginning -- they just didn't hold the same spark for me. The sudden, abrupt departure of too many regular artists at one time -- Mark Bagley, Sal Buscema, and Dan Jurgens -- also left me feeling as if I'd been picked up and dropped into a whole 'nother universe that was weird and strange to me.
Moving on, my dissatisfaction for the Spidey titles kicked into overdrive when two things happened: Norman Osborn became a poor man's Lex Luthor who was everywhere all the time and Aunt May was "resurrected". The latter development, in particular, left me feeling sick inside; that was when it fully sunk in that nothing that ever happened in comics mattered a damn because anything progressive -- anything that caused characters to actually grow and change -- that a creator could ever bring to the table was just going to be swept under the rug once another creator who hated it came along (I'm looking at you, Mr. John "The-Status-Quo-Is-God-Unless-I-Don't-Want-It-To-Be" Byrne.).
Suffice it to say, my status as a Spidey fan was pretty much dead at the time and I had all but given up reading the comics. Then I happened to see the comic above on the spinner rack of one of the local grocery stores.
As a typically sexist boy who thought girls were icky, I didn't read many comics focusing of superheroines. Truth be told, I probably wouldn't have bothered picking up the comic above save for one thing: the Ben Reilly suit. Yep, I bought the comic because of the suit Spider-Girl was wearing, a suit belonging to my Spider-Man, the Spider-Man the writers had decided to treat -- and dispose of -- like shit. My interest piqued, I just had to take a look through it.
Suffice it to say (again), Spider-Girl turned out to be the exact comic I needed to read at the time. There was no angsty bullshit about Osborns and Goblins and genetically engineered actresses, there was just a lot of action and humour and a respect for what had came before. Having re-read those comics now, at the point in my life where I am now surrounded by a bunch of deconstructed, decompressed garbage written for stupid man-children who like seeing their favourite characters derailed, assassinated, and raped, that opinion has only been reinforced a hundredfold.
tl;dr version: I love these comics -- I love the characters, I love the humour, and I love the lack of brutal violence, gore, and stupid decompression -- and I'm going to continue reading the series until the final issue. Then, if things are still running smoothly, I'm going to move on to the spinoff titles Amazing Spider-Girl and Spectacular Spider-Girl.
You know it's funny I reada few of these when they first came out but I didn't keep up with it due to lack of funds and the local library stopped carrying them but I started collecting the reprints and you know what I have been having the exact same feelings about these books.
After the most recent movies and what has happened in the comics I had lost all interest in Spider-Man but now I love him again and I like Spider-Girl in her own right. I like Spider-Man again and I really want a good Spider-Girl movie to come out at some point.
One thing I would change about the art work in the books if I were in charge is that May's hair is black and I would make her a redhead so she looks a little more like Mary Jane but that is just a minor note and down to personal taste.
As I said I am loving these books.
DuracellEnergizer said:
Wolfman said:
The new re-design Batgirl costume. What a pile of bat droppings!
Ah, modern comics and their shitty efforts to make costumes more "realistic". I can imagine a better looking costume that achieves realism without sacrificing the aesthetics of the original costume.
I don't know I kind of like it. Unlike alot of Superhero costumes it looks like something someone could make in real life with stuff they had in their closet or bought at a store and it looks like it would be practical in combat. Also it doesn't have those stupid boob socks that a lot of female superhero costumes have,those always bug me. I think the cape should be a little bigger and maybe the boots should be blue or black but over all I like it.
Wolfman said:
The new re-design Batgirl costume. What a pile of bat droppings!
I dig it.
*shrug
Thought I would check out the return of Sensation Comics.
What you get here is two stories per issue. Each has a different writer and artist and the stories are not linked to any continuity that is going on at the moment. The writers have free run for a WW story set at any time. The first issue for example had a story from before the new 52. WW was in her old costume and Barbara Gordon was still Oracle. The next story has Diana in new 52 costume. Good start for the series and it looks like I am in this for the long run.
DrCrowTStarwars said:
One thing I would change about the art work in the books if I were in charge is that May's hair is black and I would make her a redhead so she looks a little more like Mary Jane but that is just a minor note and down to personal taste.
Her hair colour does lighten further down the line. Sometimes it's a dark auburn and other times it's a dark brown.
Wolfman said:
Thought I would check out the return of Sensation Comics.
What you get here is two stories per issue. Each has a different writer and artist and the stories are not linked to any continuity that is going on at the moment. The writers have free run for a WW story set at any time. The first issue for example had a story from before the new 52. WW was in her old costume and Barbara Gordon was still Oracle. The next story has Diana in new 52 costume. Good start for the series and it looks like I am in this for the long run.
I wonder if Superman and Batman have similar titles. It'd be the only way I'd ever consider reading anything from the New 52.
I recently purchased parts 1 and 2 from the Knightfall saga of Batman in the 90's at a yard sale. Total price: $1. Now I just need to get reading.
^I remember taking the trade paperback editions out from the library a few years ago. They never bothered to collect most of the issues pertaining to the "Knightquest" phase of the storyline, so I ended up going from Jean-Paul Valley becoming the new Batman to Bruce trying to get the cape and cowl back at an almost literal turn of the page.
The last comic I read was the three-part miniseries Babylon 5: In Valen's Name by DC Comics.
Basically, the miniseries has two interlocking stories: the first is about the crew of the Babylon 5 station finding the decaying remnants of the Babylon 4 station and encountering a hostile alien species with apparent ties to B4, the second is about what happened to Jeffrey Sinclair after he travelled back into the past and became Valen.
Basically, I liked it; the story was good and so was the art. The only bad thing I have to say about it is that it left me with a desire to read more Babylon 5 comics, a desire I can't satisfy as there virtually aren't any other B5 comics beyond DC's main series, and the artwork in those comics is so cringe-inducingly awful that I couldn't get through the first storyline.
DuracellEnergizer said:
The last comic I read was the three-part miniseries Babylon 5: In Valen's Name by DC Comics.
Basically, the miniseries has two interlocking stories: the first is about the crew of the Babylon 5 station finding the decaying remnants of the Babylon 4 station and encountering a hostile alien species with apparent ties to B4, the second is about what happened to Jeffrey Sinclair after he travelled back into the past and became Valen.
Basically, I liked it; the story was good and so was the art. The only bad thing I have to say about it is that it left me with a desire to read more Babylon 5 comics, a desire I can't satisfy as there virtually aren't any other B5 comics beyond DC's main series, and the artwork in those comics is so cringe-inducingly awful that I couldn't get through the first storyline.
I did not know this existed and now I must own it.
Agh! Here we go again. After 37 years Marvel have decided that Spider-Woman is in need of a new costume because, you know, red spandex is so not cool any more. Much like DC's new Batgirl costume here is Jessica Drew's new duds. Once again, not happy with this but will stick with the title because I like the charactor so much.
Meh...
Tales of Suspense #39
I'm surprised that the Iron Man movie pretty much followed this beat for beat at the beginning. Been really enjoying making my way through the early Marvel issues and especially reading the contemporary readers' reactions to them.
Tobar said:
Tales of Suspense #39
I'm surprised that the Iron Man movie pretty much followed this beat for beat at the beginning. Been really enjoying making my way through the early Marvel issues and especially reading the contemporary readers' reactions to them.
Yeah when I saw Iron Man I was surprised by that fact too, considering all the changes that were made to Spider-Man and The X men.
Oh and if you want a good laugh look up the episode of Atop the Fourth Wall where Linkara reads this issue and does all of Tony's dialog in a drunk voice. It puts Stan Lee's iffy transistors science in a whole new light:)
Wolfman said:
Agh! Here we go again. After 37 years Marvel have decided that Spider-Woman is in need of a new costume because, you know, red spandex is so not cool any more. Much like DC's new Batgirl costume here is Jessica Drew's new duds. Once again, not happy with this but will stick with the title because I like the charactor so much.
Meh...
I've said it before, I'll say it again -- fuck modern Marvel.
