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joefavs said:

The trick to liking Kanye is to think of him as a character. He’s a fascinating dude if you take a few steps back.

Perhaps, but I’d rather pretend that he – and 100.90% of all other rappers – just don’t exist.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

joefavs said:

The trick to liking Kanye is to think of him as a character. He’s a fascinating dude if you take a few steps back.

Perhaps, but I’d rather pretend that he – and 100.90% of all other rappers – just don’t exist.

Me as well.

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moviefreakedmind said:

It’s like someone put a hand grenade in a clip-art library.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

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yhwx said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Tyrphanax said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It’s like someone put a hand grenade in a clip-art library.

On the albums sleeve you can turn an inner, circular paper to change the imagery on the front. It’s pretty neat.

Are you one of those vinyl people?

Are you anti-vinyl? Vinyl is great; deal with it.

Army of Darkness: The Medieval Deadit | The Terminator - Color Regrade | The Wrong Trousers - Audio Preservation
SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Tyrphanax said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It’s like someone put a hand grenade in a clip-art library.

On the albums sleeve you can turn an inner, circular paper to change the imagery on the front. It’s pretty neat.

Okay, that is actually pretty neat.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

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Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Tyrphanax said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It’s like someone put a hand grenade in a clip-art library.

On the albums sleeve you can turn an inner, circular paper to change the imagery on the front. It’s pretty neat.

Are you one of those vinyl people?

Are you anti-vinyl? Vinyl is great; deal with it.

I don’t really like the culture of vinyl people. Especially the people who say it sounds better than CD.

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Then you’ll hate this movement I heard about where people try to preserve some dated movie from the 70s. They say that puppets and models look better than CGI and HD video. Talking about the greatness of film grain and gate weave.

What a bunch of idiots.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

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yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Tyrphanax said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It’s like someone put a hand grenade in a clip-art library.

On the albums sleeve you can turn an inner, circular paper to change the imagery on the front. It’s pretty neat.

Are you one of those vinyl people?

Are you anti-vinyl? Vinyl is great; deal with it.

I don’t really like the culture of vinyl people. Especially the people who say it sounds better than CD.

A lot of it can depend on your equipment. If you have a bad turntable then it probably won’t sound as good as a CD in a Bose CD player, but generally speaking analogue sounds much better on a good setup.

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yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Tyrphanax said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It’s like someone put a hand grenade in a clip-art library.

On the albums sleeve you can turn an inner, circular paper to change the imagery on the front. It’s pretty neat.

Are you one of those vinyl people?

Are you anti-vinyl? Vinyl is great; deal with it.

I don’t really like the culture of vinyl people. Especially the people who say it sounds better than CD.

The “culture” of vinyl people? And in what way does it not sound better than CD?

I’m not going to vouch for the inherent quality of either medium, but an album that was originally released on vinyl almost always sounds better on vinyl, because CD re-releases are commonly remixed or remastered, and this usually ends up changing the songs for the negative.
(example: the remixed version of Leftoverture by Kansas contains too much reverb)

Army of Darkness: The Medieval Deadit | The Terminator - Color Regrade | The Wrong Trousers - Audio Preservation
SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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moviefreakedmind said:

A lot of it can depend on your equipment. If you have a bad turntable then it probably won’t sound as good as a CD in a Bose CD player, but generally speaking analogue sounds much better on a good setup.

Well said.

Army of Darkness: The Medieval Deadit | The Terminator - Color Regrade | The Wrong Trousers - Audio Preservation
SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Tyrphanax said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It’s like someone put a hand grenade in a clip-art library.

On the albums sleeve you can turn an inner, circular paper to change the imagery on the front. It’s pretty neat.

Are you one of those vinyl people?

Are you anti-vinyl? Vinyl is great; deal with it.

I don’t really like the culture of vinyl people. Especially the people who say it sounds better than CD.

The “culture” of vinyl people? And in what way does it not sound better than CD?

I’m not going to vouch for the inherent quality of either medium, but an album that was originally released on vinyl almost always sounds better on vinyl, because CD re-releases are commonly remixed or remastered, and this usually ends up changing the songs for the negative.
(example: the remixed version of Leftoverture by Kansas contains too much reverb)

Usually the early reissues of CDs were remastered for the worse, but today the CDs are usually properly mastered for the digital format. ZZ Top was never able to get this right until 2013 when their CDs were finally released properly, and are pretty satisfying.

I don’t know what he’s getting at with the CD thing, but I’ll admit that some of the extreme audiophile crowd can be very pretentious and rude to people just trying to ask simple questions. I usually avoid that type but I wouldn’t call it the “culture of vinyl people”. I don’t think that’s what he’s referring to though so I have no clue what he’s talking about.

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moviefreakedmind said:

yhwx said:

Dek Rollins said:

yhwx said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Tyrphanax said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It’s like someone put a hand grenade in a clip-art library.

On the albums sleeve you can turn an inner, circular paper to change the imagery on the front. It’s pretty neat.

Are you one of those vinyl people?

Are you anti-vinyl? Vinyl is great; deal with it.

I don’t really like the culture of vinyl people. Especially the people who say it sounds better than CD.

A lot of it can depend on your equipment. If you have a bad turntable then it probably won’t sound as good as a CD in a Bose CD player, but generally speaking analogue sounds much better on a good setup.

Ok, so here we go:

A common belief is that analog mediums sound better than digital. People that support that belief will often say something about quantization errors and star steps etc. Basically it boils down to “A digital medium can’t represent all the sounds that analog can.” Well, that is a misguided belief that probably started in Usenet in the mid 90s. The truth is that digital mediums can faithfully represent wave signals without being a stair step. See this video for an explanation. Also, another argument that the analog people bring up is who warmer analog sounds. However, that “warmth” is just the result of inaccuracies. The fact is that digital more faithfully represents a sound wave that traveled through the air. Analog just has certain inaccuracies that prevent it from being the best representation of a sound. Now, analog mediums may sound better to you, but that’s because you’re accustomed to all the inaccuracies of vinyl. You have nostalgia for them. But digital is objectively better at representing sound.

See this blog post that I wrote for a better analysis.

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I’ve heard it all before; with all due respect I’m not interested in a debate about the two mediums.

I’ll read the whole blog post later.

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I still prefer digital conversions of the vinyl records if I’m going to use a CD (though I have no problem with official CDs as long as they are mastered well).

Army of Darkness: The Medieval Deadit | The Terminator - Color Regrade | The Wrong Trousers - Audio Preservation
SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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It’s fine if you prefer it, but saying it’s better than hi quality well mastered CDs.

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It may not be that vinyl is inherently better, but things are nearly always mastered better for vinyl and that’s just a fact. Try anything that’s percussive and compare the CD version and the vinyl version and see which hits harder. It also has more detail in the sound. You may not be able to capture it on paper but your ears can.

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Possessed said:

It also has more detail in the sound. You may not be able to capture it on paper but your ears can.

He’ll just label that detail you speak of as “analog inaccuracy”.

Army of Darkness: The Medieval Deadit | The Terminator - Color Regrade | The Wrong Trousers - Audio Preservation
SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Dek Rollins said:

Possessed said:

It also has more detail in the sound. You may not be able to capture it on paper but your ears can.

He’ll just label that detail you speak of as “analog inaccuracy”.

I might.

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So I take it you think Attack Of The Clones has better image quality than Empire Strikes Back then? After all, AOTC was shot digitally so is obviously superior than the old timely analog of ESB.

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Possessed said:

So I take it you think Attack Of The Clones has better image quality than Empire Strikes Back then? After all, AOTC was shot digitally so is obviously superior than the old timely analog of ESB.

Well, no. That’s like saying that a CD from the year 1980 is better than a vinyl from 1960.

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I’ve got vinyls from 2010+ (some of modern albums…) and they still sound better than their CD counterparts. Them being mastered more carefully may be part of that, but every single person I’ve showed has been blown away by how much better they sound.

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Them being mastered better is probably the only part of that.