Oh, cool! I didn’t know that. Vader definitely won’t be a problem then.
If he does replace the other character’s voices, though, I really hope he doesn’t use some random person’s voice. Ryan Golden is like a one in a billion kind of person. I seriously doubt there is a twin of Ewan out there.
To answer Jedi122: It is unclear what lines Golden will be used for. Pixel intentionally left that vague to avoid spoilers.
With that said, there will definitely be new lines. The only hint he mentioned was that Vader will give us one of his OT-style dark sarcasm such as, “The emperor is not as forgiving as I am.”
Anyone know when this might be finished?
no his last update has in december saying that the release date is whenever is finished
https://youtu.be/8higOJ-ZKOQ?feature=shared
idk
But from what I can tell Obi-Wan learns Vader still lives in the cantina instead of Reva telling him.
That comes from the epilogue to Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader. It’s one change I don’t mind, actually.
For me, this is something I am not a fan of and I think the show honestly handled better than the EU. The idea that Vader is a known public entity, honestly I found stupid. Vader should only be known to the top brass and generals on either side. I saw some comic where the Empire was literally putting him as a public propaganda face in holograms and such. I just don’t think it makes sense. He’s a hand of the Emperor who handles special assignments. Not just an Imperial. I think at the very most, he’d be in whispers of fearful soldiers who might have heard horror stories of a black armored, red lightsaber wielding wizard. To me that is more powerful than the Empire parading him around.
But, I know a lot of EU fans prefer that depiction, so hey, more power to them
Anyone know when this might be finished?
From PixelJoker as of March 9: "I’m not giving regular updates because I’m at the point where I’d like to wrap things up and prepare for the next stage. So, all I’m doing now is dialogue removal (a.k.a., making the actors not talk to match the cuts better), creating alternative shots and reactions, and removing blinking in case of reversed shots. It doesn’t seem too bombastic, but there are almost a hundred of these shots throughout the film. I’m just more focused on actually working on the film than announcing anything or engaging in discourse online.
I wish I were a millionaire with an unlimited budget and time to work on TOTM only, but the reality is far different. I’m one of the VFX artists who unfortunately lost their job due to recent strikes, so I have to take on a side project now and then just to survive and take care of my family."
At one point recently he also mentioned possibly utilizing the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray disc release of Kenobi to improve some shots for his VFX, and that comes out on April 30th. So my guess on release would be sometime this summer, maybe 3-4 months away? But he’s always been someone who works in spurts based on his profession, sometimes he’s been able to work on this edit very quickly and other times he has to take weeks off, so release predictions have been difficult on his end.
Very safe to say it will come out eventually though, he has invested an enormous amount of time and effort into this.
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For me, this is something I am not a fan of and I think the show honestly handled better than the EU. The idea that Vader is a known public entity, honestly I found stupid. Vader should only be known to the top brass and generals on either side. I saw some comic where the Empire was literally putting him as a public propaganda face in holograms and such. I just don’t think it makes sense. He’s a hand of the Emperor who handles special assignments. Not just an Imperial. I think at the very most, he’d be in whispers of fearful soldiers who might have heard horror stories of a black armored, red lightsaber wielding wizard. To me that is more powerful than the Empire parading him around.
But, I know a lot of EU fans prefer that depiction, so hey, more power to them
Why is it stupid for Vader to be well-known? Scaring people into submission has always been the Empire’s tactic
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From a PR perspective it would have made more sense for the Empire to market Vader as Anakin Skywalker, the hero of the clone wars and the only Jedi loyal to the empire…
Peace is a lie
There is only passion…
From a PR perspective it would have made more sense for the Empire to market Vader as Anakin Skywalker, the hero of the clone wars and the only Jedi loyal to the empire…
Yeah but palpatine doesn’t want anakin skywalker to come back, so letting the galaxy know he’s alive would risk bringing back anakin.
Shit. PJ lost his job due to the strikes? 😦
“The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.”
-Sheev Palpatine, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
For me, this is something I am not a fan of and I think the show honestly handled better than the EU. The idea that Vader is a known public entity, honestly I found stupid. Vader should only be known to the top brass and generals on either side. I saw some comic where the Empire was literally putting him as a public propaganda face in holograms and such. I just don’t think it makes sense. He’s a hand of the Emperor who handles special assignments. Not just an Imperial. I think at the very most, he’d be in whispers of fearful soldiers who might have heard horror stories of a black armored, red lightsaber wielding wizard. To me that is more powerful than the Empire parading him around.
But, I know a lot of EU fans prefer that depiction, so hey, more power to them
Why is it stupid for Vader to be well-known? Scaring people into submission has always been the Empire’s tactic
I think the idea of Force users being front and center in any capacity during the reign of the Empire doesn’t make sense. Han Solo didn’t even believe in the force during “Star Wars”. There were many more Jedi than Sith, and even they were scrubbed so badly the universe has forgotten about them. Someone like Vader wouldn’t be in the public sphere. He’s a Jedi hunter and right hand to the Emperor, an enforcer for special tasks. Like I said, the idea that he would be a frightening rumor is much more powerful.
Seeing him in public holograms and propaganda? It’s outright cheesy. An obvious expanded universe concept, like Palpatine making a bunch of clones of himself.
The EU has its strengths, and it has its clear weaknesses.
I agree. There’s a similar problem in TROS with Dom Gleeson’s character. There’s a line he says in the background as Rey is grabbing the Jedi texts: “There were always whispers, of his hunger to cheat death.”
The idea that the galaxy “always” knew Palpatine was a Sith Lord is outright lunacy. Palpatine purposely did not want anybody to know that. I suppose it isn’t really a problem that the galaxy came to learn his true nature after ROTJ, thus why nobody questions his allegiance with the Sith fleet and Exegol in TROS, but the aforementioned line is problematic because it’s something nobody in the galaxy would have even considered while the Emperor was ruling.
I got the Obi-Wan steelbook today from the Disney Movie Club. What’s strange is that in one of the making-of featurettes on the disc, I saw motion tracking dots on both Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen’s faces in the filming of the sparring flashback, even though it didn’t look like they were de-aged at all. I don’t get it.
That scene was off in more ways than one. The sky is white instead of Blue (I notice a lot of Star Wars shows have white skies) and there are no ship lanes in the background. The prequels always had ship lanes in the background.
Somebody knows if PixelJoker knows the original plans for the Kenobi movie series? Maybe it’s too late, but this could guide him, because the show is based of in the ideas of the movie series, and most of the things that don’t make much sense in the show are handed really better in the original script. Maybe PJ could pick the discarded ideas that are easiest to implement and put in his movie through editing.
This video show the ideas:
My hope is that he purchased the 4K UHD Steelbook and is swapping his source material.
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My hope is that he purchased the 4K UHD Steelbook and is swapping his source material.
That might explain the lack of any recent updates.
“The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.”
-Sheev Palpatine, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
My hope is that he purchased the 4K UHD Steelbook and is swapping his source material.
He will be. That was one of the last things we spoke about before he went radio silent. PixelJoker all about quality, and the box sets will really help now.
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I watched the Kai Patterson edit of Kenobi yesterday, and that also boasts some new FX work like PixelJoker.
With a bit of distance since the release of Kenobi I’d say that even when tightened up by a fan editor and with many of the clunkiest moments removed, what you’re left with is still… somewhat mid. I want to love it, but it just never really sparks into life, and I’m not sure that tweaking a few visual fx can change that.
Patterson’s cut was decent…but I don’t know of any ‘new FX work’ that you described. If any exists, it’s not even close to the same realm as what pixeljoker is doing. And if you haven’t seen the youtube video pixeljoker released over a year ago, he filmed WHOLE NEW SCENES, so it’s more than just an edit and visual overhaul. That being said, you’re right that it’s hard to imagine Kenobi becoming something as good as the OT, but I don’t think that’s the goal, just a product with the quality we would hope to expect from our favorite franchise. I for one, am excited to see what he accomplishes.
I think there are a few small bits and pieces of FX changes throughout, the one I noticed most in the Patterson edit was Reva swiftly strikes and kills the Jedi they were hunting in the cantina and then when you see him strung up in the street he’s headless. In all, Kai Patterson’s is a decent edit and easy to find on google.
I’ll definitely check out the Pixeljoker edit when it does get released as like I say, I really want to like Kenobi more, but it just kinda trundles along in third gear. Neither intelligent enough to engage the mind, nor exciting and action-packed enough to provide thrills.
I watched the Kai Patterson edit of Kenobi yesterday, and that also boasts some new FX work like PixelJoker.
With a bit of distance since the release of Kenobi I’d say that even when tightened up by a fan editor and with many of the clunkiest moments removed, what you’re left with is still… somewhat mid. I want to love it, but it just never really sparks into life, and I’m not sure that tweaking a few visual fx can change that.
This. Everything Pixel is doing will be a major improvement but it will still be a 5/10 at the end of the day. You can’t polish a turd lol
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I watched the Kai Patterson edit of Kenobi yesterday, and that also boasts some new FX work like PixelJoker.
With a bit of distance since the release of Kenobi I’d say that even when tightened up by a fan editor and with many of the clunkiest moments removed, what you’re left with is still… somewhat mid. I want to love it, but it just never really sparks into life, and I’m not sure that tweaking a few visual fx can change that.
This. Everything Pixel is doing will be a major improvement but it will still be a 5/10 at the end of the day. You can’t polish a turd lol
I noticed something, actually. Why is it that for the most part, the recent Star Wars stuff that seems to get the least amount of vocal criticisms online are the ones that don’t have Jedi in them? Rogue One, Solo, Andor, and The Mandalorian spring to mind.
I watched the Kai Patterson edit of Kenobi yesterday, and that also boasts some new FX work like PixelJoker.
With a bit of distance since the release of Kenobi I’d say that even when tightened up by a fan editor and with many of the clunkiest moments removed, what you’re left with is still… somewhat mid. I want to love it, but it just never really sparks into life, and I’m not sure that tweaking a few visual fx can change that.
This. Everything Pixel is doing will be a major improvement but it will still be a 5/10 at the end of the day. You can’t polish a turd lol
I noticed something, actually. Why is it that for the most part, the recent Star Wars stuff that seems to get the least amount of vocal criticisms online are the ones that don’t have Jedi in them? Rogue One, Solo, Andor, and The Mandalorian spring to mind.
Probably because these show writers think they need to add additional layers to the mythos that were never there originally. Or, at the very least, which were vaguely hinted at. Which makes them divisive by their very nature because everybody has their own level of attachment to the way things are presented in the original saga.
This was exemplified yesterday by The Acolyte’s implied reveal. Which conveniently aligns itself with what I originally had in mind for my edit of Episode IX, but that’s neither here nor there. You can’t expect to mess with a fundamental aspect of Star Wars 20 years later and not get some backlash about it.
I watched the Kai Patterson edit of Kenobi yesterday, and that also boasts some new FX work like PixelJoker.
With a bit of distance since the release of Kenobi I’d say that even when tightened up by a fan editor and with many of the clunkiest moments removed, what you’re left with is still… somewhat mid. I want to love it, but it just never really sparks into life, and I’m not sure that tweaking a few visual fx can change that.
This. Everything Pixel is doing will be a major improvement but it will still be a 5/10 at the end of the day. You can’t polish a turd lol
I noticed something, actually. Why is it that for the most part, the recent Star Wars stuff that seems to get the least amount of vocal criticisms online are the ones that don’t have Jedi in them? Rogue One, Solo, Andor, and The Mandalorian spring to mind.
Probably because these show writers think they need to add additional layers to the mythos that were never there originally. Or, at the very least, which were vaguely hinted at. Which makes them divisive by their very nature because everybody has their own level of attachment to the way things are presented in the original saga.
This was exemplified yesterday by The Acolyte’s implied reveal. Which conveniently aligns itself with what I originally had in mind for my edit of Episode IX, but that’s neither here nor there. You can’t expect to mess with a fundamental aspect of Star Wars 20 years later and not get some backlash about it.
People were the same about the Prequels upon initial release. They didn’t like all of the lore that was added to the Original Trilogy, particularly with Midichlorians and how Anakin was portrayed. It’s like cement. The old lore becomes more concrete in their minds the longer an established franchise goes on, and it becomes less likely for them to accept any new material added to it later down the road. That is, unless a kid after 2019 grows up watching all three trilogies, and it’s ALL Star Wars to them, no matter what.