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"Crosstalk refers generally to artifacts resulting from interference between two or more competing or adjacent signals. When used alone in the context of LD, crosstalk typically denotes the herringbone pattern that results from the laser pickup reading, or partially reading signal from one or both adjacent pit track(s).

This is usually a player tilt-servo adjustment problem, but is occasionally a mastering defect. The current LD of "Sleeper" (MGM ML101463, batch numbers 97-511A1 and ..B1) seems to have a mild case. The initial PAL release of Pink Floyd's PULSE seems to have lots of colour crosstalk."

It seems this could just be a problem with my player, I checked my disc again yesterday and I could only see the crosstalk I had previously noticed on disc 1, side 2 when playing side 2 by switching sides by the remote, if I switched the sides manually the crosstalk pattern weren't there any longer. :)

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msycamore said:

...if I switched the sides manually the crosstalk pattern weren't there any longer. :)

Oh, so this could make a worthy transfer after all... Without the crosstalk, is it an improvement over the JSC or the same?

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The Aluminum Falcon said:

Oh, so this could make a worthy transfer after all... Without the crosstalk, is it an improvement over the JSC or the same?

I don't own the actual JSC LD myself, so I can't compare them on equal ground, but in terms of colortiming it is much better, this transfer doesn't have the various color issues the JSC and first pressings of the SWE had on ANH, the major thing that bothered me on that transfer.

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msycamore said:

...this transfer doesn't have the various color issues the JSC and first pressings of the SWE had on ANH, the major thing that bothered me on that transfer.

Oh well then. Would you consider doing a transfer after you finish your wonderful THX-1138 one? It seems you're having fantastic results on that one.

By the way, would you happen to know how the Special Widescreen Editions of ESB and ROTJ hold up against the JSC?

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The Aluminum Falcon said:

msycamore said:

...this transfer doesn't have the various color issues the JSC and first pressings of the SWE had on ANH, the major thing that bothered me on that transfer.

Oh well then. Would you consider doing a transfer after you finish your wonderful THX-1138 one? It seems you're having fantastic results on that one.

I don't have the capability to capture LD's at the moment, but I plan to do it.

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By the way, would you happen to know how the Special Widescreen Editions of ESB and ROTJ hold up against the JSC?

I don't know for sure but from what I have seen on various screen-caps, the JSC seems to have a slight advantage:

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msycamore said:

I don't have the capability to capture LD's at the moment, but I plan to do it.

The Aluminum Falcon said:

By the way, would you happen to know how the Special Widescreen Editions of ESB and ROTJ hold up against the JSC?

I don't know for sure but from what I have seen on various screen-caps, the JSC seems to have a slight advantage:

 

 

Were there multiple pressings of the Special Widescreen Edition, some with better quality than others? When I tried transferring my copy, it ended up looking very dirty, especially compared to that screenshot. Of course, it could be that my laserdisc player, a Pioneer LD-v850, is just subpar; I just inherited it.

EDIT: Okay, just was surfing the web and noticed that the SWE did have multiple pressings: Pioneer, Mitsubishi, and Technidisc. See info here. Does anyone know if there were any differences in quality between them, as far as ESB and ROTJ?

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The Aluminum Falcon said:

Okay, just was surfing the web and noticed that the SWE did have multiple pressings: Pioneer, Mitsubishi, and Technidisc. See info here. Does anyone know if there were any differences in quality between them, as far as ESB and ROTJ?

I think Mallwalker is investigating that. So, what pressing is your LD then? your screen-cap isn't the same frame but it appears to display more horizontal resolution compared to the others, see the scan lines on the screen.

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msycamore said:

I think Mallwalker is investigating that.

 That's good. I'll be interested in his findings...

So, what pressing is your LD then?

Going by the info in the link I posted earlier, I believe mine is the Mitsubishi pressing since its got no surround check; however, I'm not sure. Is there any way of positively indentifying it?

your screen-cap isn't the same frame but it appears to display more horizontal resolution compared to the others, see the scan lines on the screen.

Oh crap. The cap I posted was from a transfer I made that I anamorphically enhanced with DVD Rebuilder. Would that make it appear to have more horizontal resolution?

Here's the original non-anamorphic capture:

I'm not sure if that makes a difference, so I'd love to hear your thoughts, msycamore. Additionally, what you perceive as additional detail on the screen may just in fact be video noise. Here's some other (non-anamorphic) captures from my LD to get an idea of the overall amount of noise.

 

Once again, I'd love to hear your thoughts on these. Looking at these again, you may be right about a tad bit more horizontal detail. Anyway, I made a whole capture of the laserdisc. I do say that it seems to look far better in motion; I could post a video clip if you wanted me to...

In any case, and I'm sorry if this is way too off topic, but I am using a Pioneer LD-V850 to transfer these and would be interested in some info about it. Is it related to the LD-V800 from Arnie.d's V8 Capture?

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The Aluminum Falcon said:

Is there any way of positively indentifying it?

You can check the mint marks here: http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/00873/1425-85/Star-Wars:-The-Empire-Strikes-Back-(1980)

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Oh crap. The cap I posted was from a transfer I made that I anamorphically enhanced with DVD Rebuilder. Would that make it appear to have more horizontal resolution?

Sorry, I meant horizontal detail. The scan-line pattern on the screen is what surprised me as we discussed it at lenght in this thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Complete-Comparison-of-Special-Edition-Visual-Changes/post/450397/#TopicPost450397

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In any case, and I'm sorry if this is way too off topic, but I am using a Pioneer LD-V850 to transfer these and would be interested in some info about it. Is it related to the LD-V800 from Arnie.d's V8 Capture?

I'll let anyone with more knowledge about players than me answer that for you.

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You can check the mint marks here: http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/00873/1425-85/Star-Wars:-The-Empire-Strikes-Back-(1980)

Thanks for the link. I was looking at the mint marks on my laserdisc and it does say C1425-85 like the Mitsubishi is supposed to; however, the second and third column don't match... Does this mean it's different or were those columns just an example.

On Side 1, my disc says B05 and B3OB07042. On Side 2, it just says A30B10644. On Side 3, it says 030B00836. Side 4 says C06 and C30B0467. Side 1 and 4 also say C1425-85, matching the description of the Mitsubishi.

Sorry, I meant horizontal detail. The scan-line pattern on the screen is what surprised me as we discussed it at lenght in this thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Complete-Comparison-of-Special-Edition-Visual-Changes/post/450397/#TopicPost450397

Ahh... I see. Now that you mention it when I watch that part on my SWE transfer, it does have more of a scan line pattern. I'll be sure to post a video in the morning, along with the Emperor scene.

EDIT: I just uploaded the strangling on the monitor scene, along with the Emperor scene to Megaupload here:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AA7BLEMB.

You can see the scan lines a bit more clearly than the GOUT. In any case, these aren't IVTC'ed yet, but I'm about 90% sure that the scan lines aren't just plain old interlacing... By the way, I included the cave scene just to show the general quality of the transfer I did. Pls. ignore the out of sync audio. Love to hear your thoughts.

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msycamore said:

The scan-line pattern on the screen is what surprised me as we discussed it at lenght in this thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Complete-Comparison-of-Special-Edition-Visual-Changes/post/450397/#TopicPost450397

Okay, so I checked your post and it seems that my strangling scene does more closely match the GOUT, with more vertical scan lines. That's weird since I thought the SWE and the JSC were from the same master...

However, looking at the Officers hologram, Emperor hologram, and Vader hologram, they look more like the JSC, as would be expected.

For those interested, I made a post on that thread comparing the strandline scene.

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I uploaded the strangling on the monitor scene, along with the Emperor scene to Megaupload here:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AA7BLEMB.

Has anyone checked the video I posted yet? I'd be interested in your thoughts. It shows the GOUT-similar strangling scene and the JSC-similar Emperor scene (preceeded by the Officers scene). At the end, I tacked on the Cave scene just so you can get an idea of the quality of my laserdisc transfer.

It hasn't been IVTC'ed and the audio somehow got out of sync, but I think the video is all right for being able to observe the scan lines.

Because it wasn't in the video, here's the Vader hologram:

Note it's similarity to the JSC, as should be...

In any case, I'm not sure if the SWE has more detail or if it's simply a different master all together.

Thoughts?

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Okay, so I checked your post and it seems that my strangling scene does more closely match the GOUT, with more vertical scan lines. That's weird since I thought the SWE and the JSC were from the same master...

They could still be made from the same master, the Emperor hologram in the GOUT doesn't have the scanlines visible even though they are on the US '93 DC LD, these variations seen are all various shortcomings in different video releases and not actual visual changes done to the film. But I have to admit, why the vertical scanlines on that communication screen isn't visible on my Pioneer pressing but is on yours is a little odd.

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Has anyone checked the video I posted yet? I'd be interested in your thoughts. It shows the GOUT-similar strangling scene and the JSC-similar Emperor scene (preceeded by the Officers scene). At the end, I tacked on the Cave scene just so you can get an idea of the quality of my laserdisc transfer.

It hasn't been IVTC'ed and the audio somehow got out of sync, but I think the video is all right for being able to observe the scan lines.

Note it's similarity to the JSC, as should be...

In any case, I'm not sure if the SWE has more detail or if it's simply a different master all together.

Thoughts?

I looked at your sample, and to be honest with you... it looks very bad, in which way did you capture it? maybe someone with more knowledge in the field of LD-capturing could give you some suggestions on what to do to get some better results, there is some very nasty artifacts on it. I doubt that sample represents the overall look of your LD, my Pioneer pressing looks pretty damn good and there's no reason your Mitsubishi pressing should look any different if it weren't for in the way you captured it.

BTW. the Vader hologram you posted looks identical in every video release I've seen of the original film, it's only on Puggo's super-8 it looks a little different, probably due to blown out white levels.

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msycamore said:

to be honest with you... it looks very bad, in which way did you capture it?

Oh heh...right... :P... I do appreciate your honesty; it looks pretty bad to me too. I actually captured it with a Toshiba DVD Recorder connected by high quality composite connections to a Pioneer LD-V850. It was captured on SP (2 hour) mode, so it's not the best quality. Pretty low-tech. It was the first laserdisc I transferred and mostly just a test.

maybe someone with more knowledge in the field of LD-capturing could give you some suggestions on what to do to get some better results, there is some very nasty artifacts on it.

If anyone has any suggestions to better my captures, I'd be very glad to hear them. I'd love to know better ways if possible. I'd also like to know info about my model: Pioneer LD-V850 whether it's good or bad.

One way I know to improve it straight of the bat is to use XP (1 hour) mode while recording. It gives better quality and possibly more accurate to the LD source.

However, thinking about it, some of the nasty artifacts in the clip I posted may be caused by DVD to XVID conversion.

I doubt that sample represents the overall look of your LD, my Pioneer pressing looks pretty damn good and there's no reason your Mitsubishi pressing should look any different if it weren't for in the way you captured it.

After reading your post, msycamore, I decided to recapture some of the scenes in question. This time I used XP mode, for higher quality and PCM audio. I also used better composite connections (the fancy ones that came with my OPPO DVD player). This means that there should be very little loss in capturing.

The disc I made has roughly 10 minutes worth of scenes. The first five minutes are from my Mitsubishi Special Widescreen Edition. They are on the DVD's first title: JUN/ 27/11 10:58PM L1 XP. They are a mixture of scenes with holograms and other random scenes (which show the overall quality of the laserdisc). To be honest with you, the picture only improved slightly from my original capture, but, this capture has not lost much detail in the transfer to laserdisc. Any imperfections, or dirty images, is actually how my laserdisc looks and not due to transfer. If Mitsubishi's pressings were faulty........... ARGH! >:O Perhaps your Pioneer pressing was pressed in a higher quality way and looks superior, though why the scan lines for the strangling scene would be less detailed on a high quality transfer baffles me.

Anyway, as for the next five minutes, they are from my ESB 1997 SE laserdisc, which I believe is close to reference laserdisc quality. This is the second title, labeled: JUN/ 27/11 11:20PM L1 XP. They are the exact same clips as in the SWE. The purpose of this title was just to demonstrate the overall quality of my set-up/capturing method/laserdisc player and how much detail it loses (not much, IMO). In my honest opinion, this definitely looked pretty good for a laserdisc, so my laserdisc player and setup seems to not be the cause of any "bad picture"/artifacts in the SWE transfer.

You can download my new DVD at:

 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YJCSDH93

Note that this is an ISO file to be opened with WinRAR. It will then give you the VIDEO_TS folder, which you can handle anyway you want. I decided to upload the entire DVD this time, as to not risk any accidental artifacting from Xvid conversion.

Hopefully, this will be closer to your expectations. Looking forward to your comments...

They could still be made from the same master, the Emperor hologram in the GOUT doesn't have the scanlines visible even though they are on the US '93 DC LD.

This was just a side question, but are there differences between the GOUT and the DC? Sorry I just didn't know this. Are the GOUT and Faces an exact match then (minus the ANH/SW crawl change of course)?

EDIT: Had one more thought. Is Dark_jedi's old Special Widescreen Edition transfer from a Pioneer pressing or Mitsubishi pressing? How does it compare to mine? How do the scan line patterns look?

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The Aluminum Falcon said:

You can download my new DVD at:

 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YJCSDH93

 I'll take a look.

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They could still be made from the same master, the Emperor hologram in the GOUT doesn't have the scanlines visible even though they are on the US '93 DC LD.

This was just a side question, but are there differences between the GOUT and the DC? Sorry I just didn't know this. Are the GOUT and Faces an exact match then (minus the ANH/SW crawl change of course)?

See here: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Complete-Comparison-of-Special-Edition-Visual-Changes/post/452971/#TopicPost452971

and here for some examples: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-X-Project-Laserdisc-on-Steroids-SEE-FIRST-POST-FOR-UPDATES/post/487450/#TopicPost487450

It shows that there is more detail present on the masters they were made from. Even how bad these old transfers are, the 2006 DVD's could at least have looked a little better if they were done right. 

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msycamore said:

I'll take a look.

Thank you. I look forward to your thoughts.

Even how bad these old transfers are, the 2006 DVD's could at least have looked a little better if they were done right. 

That's a pity. I wonder why the GOUT has certain odd issues like that, and why most of the releases are worhy to be preserved, each having their own good qualities.

In all, Star Wars releases in general seem to have inconsistencies even if the same master, your Pioneer SWE vs my Mitsubishi being one example. I suppose a blend of the various releases might be higher, more faithful to theaters quality, but still laserdisc quality.

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I did take a look at your SWE sample, and it is definitely much more video noise on your capture than I am able to see on my actual LD, not a fair way of comparing perhaps but it seems like it has been over-sharpened, hence all the aggressive noise popping out at you, the edge-enhancement, blown out whites is definitely not a thing I can see on my LD. I don't know, maybe that pressing is worse afterall as your SE LD did look quite alright. I can still see more horizontal detail on yours which is weird. You should perhaps take this to the how to section or making a separate thread.

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msycamore said:

but it seems like it has been over-sharpened, hence all the aggressive noise popping out at you, the edge-enhancement, blown out whites is definitely not a thing I can see on my LD. I don't know, maybe that pressing is worse after all as your SE LD did look quite alright.

Weird that two editions could be different. To be clear, yes, you can see edge enhancement on the laserdisc, I didn't add any on my capture. I picked up this laserdisc at a book fair for $1. I wonder if it's some sort of inferior fake or if Mitsubishi pressing does really suck.

You should perhaps take this to the how to section or making a separate thread.

Oh yes, of course, apologies to everyone, for hogging this thread. I'll be making a new thread soon about it.

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I did manage to get a friend of mine to cap this LD for me as I'm not set up for capturing myself at the moment, he does own an identical player to mine which is an Pioneer CLD-D790, he plugged it into an Panasonic DVD-recorder through s-video. Continue on from my post here: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Curious-about-Certain-Aspects-of-My-Primitive-LD-to-DVD-transfers/post/522651/#TopicPost522651

...this LD does have the crosstalk artifact all over the place on all sides, what I was surprised by was that the artifact behaves like random video noise for some reason which is very fortunate, it means that most of it can be eliminated by a multicap median/average in avisynth.

As I was taking some needed little break from my THX preservation I did just that, but the median script didn't get rid of it all and the dot crawl and rainbowing is horrible, maybe his recorders comb filter isn't that good or maybe he should've captured it through composite to get better results, I'll make him try it out for me because I'm not happy with it. I don't know, maybe an average script will do better than median, I will try that as well.

A short video sample of it without audio: http://www.sendspace.com/file/sgpy3s

Just IVTC'ed, resized with no additional filtering done just to show the potential of this LD or not. It's soft, extremely dirty and have horrible chroma noise as well as dot-crawl, it is easily removable but not without sacrificing other parts of the picture, so a cleaner capture is what I will ultimately need.

I have no idea how this crosstalk works, but some of it seems to appear randomly and sometimes it is in the same spots. Here's how it looks:

It's very sad because without it, this could very much be the best transfer of ANH on LD, sure it's very dirty and heavily cropped (except the opening crawl, which btw looks much better than the JSC/earlier SWE pressings) but most importantly, it's DVNR-free and have much better colors than any other LD I've seen of this film, much like the early Pan & Scan transfers.

Another thing I thought was interesting is how close the Binary Sunset comes to the Fox-promo material for the 1997 SE on this LD:

Compare for yourselves with these examples: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/post/400372/#TopicPost400372

This is most likely close to how it looked when it was photographed without any post production done to it, other than compositing the second sun of course. ;) 

Let me know what you think of the sample, and if you're interested to see me taking a shot at this LD after I have finished THX.

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The sunset does look interesting. You're probably right in saying that they just forgot to put post production coloring on it, which could have been the case in those days.

Looking at your sample, it looks honestly really good, msycamore. Sure it's a tad it soft since it's from laserdisc but that doesn't really show that much. As far as crosstalk, in the clip, I didn't see much, so I, for one, probably wouldn't be bothered by it. Colors do look nice, and it has no clipped whites. Furthermore, the optical grain was nice to see. It looks more natural, as opposed to the more scrubbed look of the GOUT.

Certainly, the quality of this is similar to Arnie d.'s V8 (though that was from the JSC). Speaking of Arnie d., if you really can't live with the crosstalk of this release, he was offering raw X9 captures of the (similarly, smear-free) JSC trilogy to anyone willing to finish it up.

In conclusion, yes, I'd be very interested in you doing this after finishing up on THX.

EDIT: Do you mind kindly uploading a sample of the sunset scene? It looks good, no crosstalk, judging from your sample picture.

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Thanks for the screenshots msycamore, that's an excellent illustration of the effect of crosstalk.

In my tests I found that while a median filter is more effective for removing drop outs, an average filter is better for smoothing dot-crawl. I'm encouraged that you think an average may also remove this cross-talk artefact. 

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As far as crosstalk, in the clip, I didn't see much, so I, for one, probably wouldn't be bothered by it.

Yeah, most of it got eliminated thanks to the multicap median script, the raw caps looking much worse.

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Speaking of Arnie d., if you really can't live with the crosstalk of this release, he was offering raw X9 captures of the (similarly, smear-free) JSC trilogy to anyone willing to finish it up.

Yes, I know he did and it would be fantastic to see such nice captures come to good use but right now I'm just happy if I manage to finish the THX LD's. ;)

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In conclusion, yes, I'd be very interested in you doing this after finishing up on THX.

EDIT: Do you mind kindly uploading a sample of the sunset scene? It looks good, no crosstalk, judging from your sample picture.

Yes, I've decided to do it, I think just the sheer uniqueness of this LD makes it worthy of preservation on its own. The sunset is full of crosstalk just like the rest of the film even though it's not visible on that particular screenshot, maybe I'll post one later.

 

Thanks for the advice Moth3r, I will definitely try it out and see what works best. I guess an average of 5 clips would get me the best results, do you have a script example for that? I'm not sure how it really works, the script command I've used in the past was only for three caps:

clip1 = AVISource("E:\Source.avi")
clip2 = AVISource("E:\Source.avi")
clip3 = AVISource("E:\Source.avi")

interleave(clip1,clip2,clip3)
temporalsoften(1,255,255,25,2)
selectevery(3,1)

Does it work the same way, do I just add two more clips to that?

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I liked the sample, these old video transfers have an aesthetic appeal that's hard to describe.

I would definitely increase the white level (contrast), then perhaps you might want to carry out a gamma adjustment to darken the lower end of the luma curve.

So I take it the sample video is from a multi-capture median script, while the screenshots above are from the raw captures?

Yes the script above is simple to modify for five captures. There is a noticeable improvement when going from a 3-cap to a 5-cap average, but I've found that five is the sweetspot; more than this and the additional time and storage required outweigh the benefits of a small increase in quality.

Regarding the temporal soften command, I don't think the scenechange parameter (the 4th figure) is required, and I cannot tell any difference between modes 1 and 2 (the 5th figure). Obviously you would use radius=2 for a 5-cap average.

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A short video sample of it without audio: http://www.sendspace.com/file/sgpy3s

Just IVTC'ed, resized...

What method did you use for the IVTC and resize? I ask because there's a fair amount of aliasing visible (it's actually as bad as the GOUT) and I wondered if that was from your processing or present on the source.

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Moth3r said:

I liked the sample, these old video transfers have an aesthetic appeal that's hard to describe.

I would definitely increase the white level (contrast), then perhaps you might want to carry out a gamma adjustment to darken the lower end of the luma curve.

So I take it the sample video is from a multi-capture median script, while the screenshots above are from the raw captures?

Yes, that is correct, those screenshots are from the raw capture. The sample video was from a median of 5, but to be honest I didn't notice any difference between 5 and a median of 3 but I wanted to try it out. Thanks for the advice, a level tweak is definitely needed to get this to look acceptable.

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Yes the script above is simple to modify for five captures. There is a noticeable improvement when going from a 3-cap to a 5-cap average, but I've found that five is the sweetspot; more than this and the additional time and storage required outweigh the benefits of a small increase in quality.

Regarding the temporal soften command, I don't think the scenechange parameter (the 4th figure) is required, and I cannot tell any difference between modes 1 and 2 (the 5th figure). Obviously you would use radius=2 for a 5-cap average.

Ok will try it out, thanks for the help. :) Using his DVD recorders combfilter by using composite instead didn't do this any better unfortunately. Sure the picture was much cleaner with less dot-crawl/rainbowing but it looked less saturated and it clearly killed some detail.

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What method did you use for the IVTC and resize? I ask because there's a fair amount of aliasing visible (it's actually as bad as the GOUT) and I wondered if that was from your processing or present on the source.

For the IVTC I used DoubleWeave(). Pulldown(,) and for the resize I used Spline36Resize. I can confirm that the bad aliasing is unfortunately present on the source, much seems to indicate that this LD used the same source as the GOUT. I've noticed that the JSC and the other pressings of this LD are somewhat better in this regard. This one also shares the same amount of wonderful gateweave we have on the GOUT among other things. I can post a raw sample later. Thanks for the response Moth3r, much appreciated.

EDIT: Good news is that I will be able to get some better results from a new cap, he had mistakenly a sort of dnr preset activated on his recorder when he captured it the first time. Sigh... ;)

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