Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 293

Quick 'copy-flip & paste mock-up'

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How about if the Death Star II seemed at first like an empty, unfinished shell with the laser cannon not built yet, but when the Rebels fly towards it, a huge hidden cannon extends from within its depths? That might be able to add a "holy crap" feel to the scene.

The DS II is supposed to be 900km across, I think by the time any mechanism had moved the cannon to the surface, the Rebels would have scarpered halfway across the galaxy. And if it was unfinished, you'd be able to see inside it from some point anyway, wouldn't you?

Lemonstein said:

The DS II is supposed to be 900km across, I think by the time any mechanism had moved the cannon to the surface, the Rebels would have scarpered halfway across the galaxy. And if it was unfinished, you'd be able to see inside it from some point anyway, wouldn't you?

 Hmm, true.

I think the best solution would be something like what Jaitea has done, something that is clearly visible but looks incomplete. For that to then be operational and start firing is surprise enough. I think anything more than that is overcooking it.

I was hopinh you'd repost those, I didn't want to scoop you and do it on your behalf. I think the firing crater on the first image is pretty much how I'd like to see it, or maybe a little more incomplete. Good stuff (as always).

That first pic also reminds me of something else, a face. The "hat" kinda makes it look Jewish, but I think it reminds me of Jason Voorhees in Friday the 13th part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan. One of the worst horror movies ever made with some of the worst make-up you've ever seen.

^That was a look inside your brain I wish I could erase.

:p

Me too, Doc, me too.

But surely, given how big it is, such "component" building like in those pics is a little unrealistic? If it's 900km across I find it hard to believe traditional construction techniques really matter as regards a framework. Add to that the fact that it's being built in space, and I find it even less important. That's also one of my issues with the framework we see at the end of Episode 3, it looks like the DS I has a simple metal framework but at that scale those frames would be several kilometres thick. I don't think that's likely.

EDIT: Your additional idea about Star Destroyers or similar towing decks into place, I think the same point of scale applies. On such a massive structure, that's probably how it was done but you just wouldn't be able to see it.

Another problem is the fact that having huge holes in DSII would make having the Falcon go through by that twisted path pointless, if you can go straight to the core by the laser dish hole.

Mithrandir said:

Another problem is the fact that having huge holes in DSII would make having the Falcon go through by that twisted path pointless, if you can go straight to the core by the laser dish hole.

 I also never understood why, once the shield generator had been disabled, no rebel ships seem to target the firing dish. Surely that's a target for at least one squadron? Destroy the firing points and you disarm the DS for a while at least.

doubleofive said:

Lemonstein said:

 I also never understood why, once the shield generator had been disabled, no rebel ships seem to target the firing dish. Surely that's a target for at least one squadron? Destroy the firing points and you disarm the DS for a while at least.

According to Lando's dialog, all of the fighters that are left go into the tunnel. All 5 of them?

Haha, sounds about right! Maybe a few more fighters trailing in behind might sell it a bit better. We wouldn't have to see them for long, just an indication that more attempted to get in there.

doubleofive said:

 

Lemonstein said:

Mithrandir said:

Another problem is the fact that having huge holes in DSII would make having the Falcon go through by that twisted path pointless, if you can go straight to the core by the laser dish hole.

 I also never understood why, once the shield generator had been disabled, no rebel ships seem to target the firing dish. Surely that's a target for at least one squadron? Destroy the firing points and you disarm the DS for a while at least.

According to Lando's dialog, all of the fighters that are left go into the tunnel. All 5 of them?

 

All the fighters in red and gold group, if all the fighters went in who blew up The Executor bridge shield?

Lemonstein said:

That first pic also reminds me of something else, a face. The "hat" kinda makes it look Jewish,

Please explain that comment.  I'd like to think that you were referring to a yamaluke, but even if you are the comment is pretty inappropriate.

Why?

I wouldn't complain if someone said a Dalek skirt makes them look Scottish.

regularjoe said:

Lemonstein said:

That first pic also reminds me of something else, a face. The "hat" kinda makes it look Jewish,

 

Please explain that comment.  I'd like to think that you were referring to a yamaluke, but even if you are the comment is pretty inappropriate.

Well, considering my Grandad was Jewish and my father-in-law was born in a camp in 1944, I don't think you can really accuse me of anything, which clearly you are. Keep your PC nonsense for your soapbox. There isn't one iota of offence in my comment. And yes, a yamaluke. Big deal. Get over it.

Bingowings said:

Why?

I wouldn't complain if someone said a Dalek skirt makes them look Scottish.

 Bingo, be a dear and do a mock-up of that? I have to see that.

Don't have to mate, it's such an obvious idea someone beat me to it.

LOL! Awesome. There really are no original ideas anymore...

I hope that pic doesn't offend you.