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thejediknighthusezni said:

RicOlie_2 said:

It makes me sad and angry when I see how so many people, especially Protestants, have no idea what Catholics really believe. I was looking at an apologetics forum called "raptureforums" and pretty much nobody there has the slightest clue what Catholics or Mormons believe. They have such bizarre ideas about us it made me cringe. I tried to sign up to make some counter arguments, but I was unable to post, or even view my profile, for some reason. The posters there also refer to Catholicism as a "cult" (even though more than 50% of Christians are Catholic!) and distinguish Catholicism, Mormonism, Jehovah Witnessism (or whatever you call them), etc. from "Christianity."

Yet Protestants and Catholics aren't all that different in their core beliefs, though many millions of Protestants think we believe the strangest things...

    Is it directed towards the rank and file or the hierarchy?

Catholicism as a whole.

    I make a tremendous distinction between the laity and the Jesuit educated clerics. It's like the lower degrees of Masonry, on the whole good folks who don't have a clear idea what's really goin' on. Only a very small handful at the top are given the BIG picture.

And just what is the "BIG picture"? I don't have time for bizarre conspiracy theories which have no basis. The Catholic Church is there to help people get to heaven, not to prevent the faithful from knowing the truth.

    Personally, I don't care about vestments or bread and wine. There are lines in the NT that could justify wearing special clothes (as much as I am sure that the disciples wore standard clothing) and there is no question that One who could create the fabulous complexity of life could somehow transmute food and drink into something more significant (as much as I am certain that it was meant simply as an act of remembrance.) It's only when INSANE SNAKES start using these differences as cause to destroy other persons and societies that I start to care.

 What "INSANE SNAKES"? Also, special clothing isn't required in order for a priest to say Mass. Religious habits are also no longer required as of the Second Vatican Council, just encouraged.

RicOlie_2 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

I've noticed that some of the more rapid Protestants like to label anything that isn't Protestantism -- be it non-Protestant Christianity or even seperate religions -- as a cult.

What does speed have to do with their tendency to label non-Protestants as cults? ;)

      For Christianity, other religions ARE cults. It can be argued that turning Christian Faith into a "religion" is to turn it into a cult.

Christianity is a religion. Period. Cult is usually used as a derogatory term, though it is not strictly negative. For Christianity, other religions are other religions. What reason is there to call them cults?

RicOlie_2 said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

RicOlie_2 said:

It makes me sad and angry when I see how so many people, especially Protestants, have no idea what Catholics really believe. I was looking at an apologetics forum called "raptureforums" and pretty much nobody there has the slightest clue what Catholics or Mormons believe. They have such bizarre ideas about us it made me cringe. I tried to sign up to make some counter arguments, but I was unable to post, or even view my profile, for some reason. The posters there also refer to Catholicism as a "cult" (even though more than 50% of Christians are Catholic!) and distinguish Catholicism, Mormonism, Jehovah Witnessism (or whatever you call them), etc. from "Christianity."

Yet Protestants and Catholics aren't all that different in their core beliefs, though many millions of Protestants think we believe the strangest things...

    Is it directed towards the rank and file or the hierarchy?

Catholicism as a whole.

    I make a tremendous distinction between the laity and the Jesuit educated clerics. It's like the lower degrees of Masonry, on the whole good folks who don't have a clear idea what's really goin' on. Only a very small handful at the top are given the BIG picture.

And just what is the "BIG picture"? I don't have time for bizarre conspiracy theories which have no basis. The Catholic Church is there to help people get to heaven, not to prevent the faithful from knowing the truth.

    Personally, I don't care about vestments or bread and wine. There are lines in the NT that could justify wearing special clothes (as much as I am sure that the disciples wore standard clothing) and there is no question that One who could create the fabulous complexity of life could somehow transmute food and drink into something more significant (as much as I am certain that it was meant simply as an act of remembrance.) It's only when INSANE SNAKES start using these differences as cause to destroy other persons and societies that I start to care.

 What "INSANE SNAKES"? Also, special clothing isn't required in order for a priest to say Mass. Religious habits are also no longer required as of the Second Vatican Council, just encouraged.

       If a snake was hell-bent on running an intensely depraved "conspiracy", wouldn't an effort to convince the sheep that there is "NO CONSPIRACY", only angels of light trying to do good, be something quite high up on his to-do list?

What evidence do you have for such a conspiracy? Why must some people find conspiracies everywhere they turn?

thejediknighthusezni said:

RicOlie_2 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

I've noticed that some of the more rapid Protestants like to label anything that isn't Protestantism -- be it non-Protestant Christianity or even seperate religions -- as a cult.

What does speed have to do with their tendency to label non-Protestants as cults? ;)

      For Christianity, other religions ARE cults. It can be argued that turning Christian Faith into a "religion" is to turn it into a cult.

Ah, yes, that tired, worn out "Christianity isn't a religion, it's a relationship" BS.

Any spiritual belief system with creeds and doctrines is a religion, regardless of which -- if any -- deity is worshipped, and Christianity in all its forms is certainly no exception. 

The word cult has very limited uses in Religious studies. At best its a vague overarching term for organization structures based and secrecy, relatively intense indoctrination, and usually a single charasmatic head.

My wife refuses to understand why the Special Editions go in the kids DVD cases, and the GOUTs and Fanedits go in my DVD case. Infuriating.

Why so many religion threads or threads converted to religion?

J

Mrs Featherstone says:

I'm not a religious woman, but I find if you say no to everything you can hardly tell the difference.

TheBoost said:

The word cult has very limited uses in Religious studies. At best its a vague overarching term for organization structures based and secrecy, relatively intense indoctrination, and usually a single charasmatic head.

      Yeah, I go for a very broad definition as distinguised from "occult". A group lead by one or a few who are convinced they have "uncovered" the one genuine way and build doctrines, organization, and set practices around their discovery.

Bingowings said:

I can highly recommend Puppy Linux. It will run off a bootable USB stick and is really nippy.

Except the damn thing wants me to burn it to CD in order to create a bootable USB... The whole reason I want a bootable USB is because I don't have a blank CD or access to burning software. I also tried LiveLinux USB creator, to no avail.

Or following the instructions in the video posted here?

^+^^ Thanks for your suggestions guys. No luck with any of those, my PC just refuses to boot from USB. Managed to burn a CD though and got access to my data. (Sorry if I sounded like I was b*tching at your recommendation Bingo, t'was not the case).

Also,

I WANT CONDORMAN ON BLU-RAY YOU DISNEY BASTERDS!

DuracellEnergizer said:

I've noticed that some of the more rapid Protestants like to label anything that isn't Protestantism -- be it non-Protestant Christianity or even seperate religions -- as a cult.

 Lol at "rapid Protestants."

I am getting so sick of the way Origin needs to spend half an hour updating it's self every single time I try to play a game on my PC.

Look EA if you want to use this stupid system where I have to connect to the internet for a game to start in single player mode fine,but could you just release it and stop releasing unskipable updates that take a half hour to download and require a restart of my computer every single day?!!  Look this may come as a shock to you but when I pay $60 for a game and then put it in my computer it's because i want to play that game,not look at update screens and check boxes for the next hour. Games are my escape from the frustrations of the world,if you change them into just another frustration then i will just stop playing and use what little free time I have to watch a movie or Tv show instead and you will lose my money. Why should I buy games that you will not even let me play when I want to play them?!!

You suck EA and I hope origin returns to where you found it,the seventh level of hell.

Moth3r said:

I'd like to bitch about how complicated console gaming is these days.

In the old days of the original Playstation/Xbox, you could just put a disc in and play the game.

Recently I bought, at the request of my son, "Plants Vs Zombies Garden Warfare" for the Xbox360. Reasonably priced at £20 I thought - but when it arrives I noticed a note on the box saying a separate Xbox live gold subscription is required to play.

Anyway, it took a frustrating number of hours before I could actually get this game up and running for him - hours spent doing updates, creating an xbox live account, amending account age to avoid having to also create a parent account, verifying email address, adding a secondary email address, verifying secondary email address, searching internet to find a free trial gold membership, arguing with the game when it said he was not logged in when he was, downloading game updates several times because it wouldn't seem to recognise that it has already been updated, creating an EA account, and so on...

 Yeah I hate that.  Consoles are not PCs!  I put up with trouble from my PC because it does more then play games and movies. I can't do the stuff on a console that I can on a PC so consoles should not have the same problems.

Also once you pay money for and download a game it should be yours,you shouldn't need to spend any time with tech support just to make it start. If you pay money for something you have a right to expect it to work,no if,ands,of buts.

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Moth3r said:

I'd like to bitch about how complicated console gaming is these days....

This is one of the reasons why I stopped at the sixth gen.

Also I have so many games now I will be good for at least six incarnations.

TV's Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

I've noticed that some of the more rapid Protestants like to label anything that isn't Protestantism -- be it non-Protestant Christianity or even seperate religions -- as a cult.

 Lol at "rapid Protestants."

Gotdang typos!

You didn't even notice when I pointed it out.

You forgot to lol.

Ah, that must be it.