Sign In

I will refuse to buy STAR WARS on bluray!

Author
Time
 (Edited)

 

 

Only the originals from the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo Dolby format 42 will sound better on DVD/Bluray.

Author
Time

I won't buy it on blu-ray either...but not just because of the sound. I'll only buy it if it includes the pre-Special Edition version.

Author
Time

How did you know I'm a DTS lover?  Your jealousy will NEVER TEAR US APART!!!

*sob*

Author
Time
 (Edited)

dit

 

Only the originals from the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo Dolby format 42 will sound better on DVD/Bluray.

Author
Time

I like that picture.

There is no lingerie in space...

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don't exist... then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks... and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming... Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

blu sucks

 

Only the originals from the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo Dolby format 42 will sound better on DVD/Bluray.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

star wars yawn 

 

Only the originals from the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo Dolby format 42 will sound better on DVD/Bluray.

Author
Time

Jedi Temple34 said:

Disc 2 special edition 1977-1977

Disc 3 special edition 1977-2005  

 

What does that mean?

Author
Time
 (Edited)

chewbacca 

 

Only the originals from the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo Dolby format 42 will sound better on DVD/Bluray.

Author
Time

Honestly, I don't know what that means.  I don't know much about the sound.  The term "1977 Special Edition" is foreign to me.  Are you saying the video is Special Edition ('97 or '04?) and the audio is '77?

Author
Time
 (Edited)

double d

 

Only the originals from the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo Dolby format 42 will sound better on DVD/Bluray.

Author
Time

I'm not a fan of this DTS thing, mostly because my receiver won't read it. But my cheap Walmart receiver can play any kind of Dolby. It's sad, if I want to watch Star Trek TOS, the new mix I have to switch to my Aux Stereo In (my BR player can output DTS in analog stereo), but if I want to listen to the original mono, I get it lossless straight through my coax input.

Of course, it could be that I just need to buy a new receiver...

“005 is super hep” - dahmage

Star Wars Revisited Wordpress / Facebook / Twitter

005’s List of List & Comparisons

Author
Time

Star Wars has always been Dolby-it has never been DTS (except for rare screenings of the 97 SE). There's no reason to change it now.

VADER!? WHERE THE HELL IS MY MOCHA LATTE? -Palpy on a very bad day.

“George didn’t think there was any future in dead Han toys.”-Harrison Ford

My review blog: thehificelluloidmonster.wordpress.com

Author
Time
 (Edited)

 

captainsolo:

Star Wars has always been Dolby-it has never been DTS (except for rare screenings of the 97 SE). There's no reason to change it now.

There's DTS and then there's DTS, same as there's Dolby, and then there's Dolby.

What I mean is, there isn't a strong analogue between DTS vs Dolby in theatres and DTS vs Dolby at home.  If something was Dolby in theatres, and Dolby Digital HD at home, that doesn't mean it's a more pristine transfer than if it was Dolby in theatres and DTS-HD at home.

doubleofive said:

I'm not a fan of this DTS thing, mostly because my receiver won't read it. But my cheap Walmart receiver can play any kind of Dolby. It's sad, if I want to watch Star Trek TOS, the new mix I have to switch to my Aux Stereo In (my BR player can output DTS in analog stereo), but if I want to listen to the original mono, I get it lossless straight through my coax input.

Of course, it could be that I just need to buy a new receiver...

Every DVD player and receiver sold in the last 10 years should support ALL DVD BASED Dolby and DTS codecs.  On Blu-Ray, however, you also get DolbyHD and DTS-HD codecs thrown into the mix.  Most if not all players can stream the data to the receiver, but it's been a mixed bag on what receivers can decode what codecs.

005, is your receiver old enough that it doesn't even support DVD based DTS?  And it seems that DTS on DVD died a silent death sometime before HDDVD came out.  I think the LotR EE discs were some of the last I bought that had DTS on them.

Case in point: Pirates otC 1 is in DTS 6.1 as well as DD5.1.  PotC 2 & 3 are just in DD5.1.

I do prefer DTS for DVDs, not because it's louder, but I do feel that the Signal to Noise Ratio is better.  But because it's usually designed with a nice home theatre set-up in mind.  The DD5.1 tracks have to be able to downmix cleanly to 2.0 stereo because sadly that is still how 90% of DVDs are listened to.  The DTS tracks usually don't compromise due to the fact that they aren't the "primary" track on the disc.  Also, it supports a discreet 6.1 track, unlike Dolby Digital on DVD.

I don't have a new-enough receiver to process either of the "HD" codecs, so I can't comment on them.  However, if they both sound as good or better than DTS6.1 generally does, I'm sure I can't be bothered to tell the difference between them.  My ears aren't that good. 

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

Author
Time
 (Edited)

xhonzi said:

doubleofive said:

I'm not a fan of this DTS thing, mostly because my receiver won't read it. But my cheap Walmart receiver can play any kind of Dolby. It's sad, if I want to watch Star Trek TOS, the new mix I have to switch to my Aux Stereo In (my BR player can output DTS in analog stereo), but if I want to listen to the original mono, I get it lossless straight through my coax input.

Of course, it could be that I just need to buy a new receiver...
Every DVD player and receiver sold in the last 10 years should support ALL DVD BASED Dolby and DTS codecs.  On Blu-Ray, however, you also get DolbyHD and DTS-HD codecs thrown into the mix.  Most if not all players can stream the data to the receiver, but it's been a mixed bag on what receivers can decode what codecs.

005, is your receiver old enough that it doesn't even support DVD based DTS?  And it seems that DTS on DVD died a silent death sometime before HDDVD came out.  I think the LotR EE discs were some of the last I bought that had DTS on them.
It's not that my receiver is old, its that it's cheap. It has Dolby Digital only, but the DolbyHD tracks on Blus stream just fine (I'm sure they're being compressed a bit). The DTS-HD just gives me dead air. My BR player is marked as having "DTS 2.0 Digital Audio", which apparently decodes the DTS signal in-player and lets it be output via analog cables. I'm not sure if DTS would work even if I bought a new receiver, DTS is really vague about what the heck "DTS 2.0 Digital Audio" is.

“005 is super hep” - dahmage

Star Wars Revisited Wordpress / Facebook / Twitter

005’s List of List & Comparisons

Author
Time
 (Edited)

Thank you for posting that you do not care much for DTS-HD MA,  Jedi Temple34.  I too am a Dolby fan.  DTS is a waste of space on discs that should be used for video bitrate. 

As to whether one should buy Star Wars on Blu-ray or not, I feel torn.  I have no wish to fund Lucas' campaign to erase a part of cinema history; nontheless, I like to purchase copies of films that I own, and as I have watched HD versions of all six Star Wars films, morally I feel I should buy them.  I do not mind having an HDTV version of a film when no HD version is yet available to buy, but once it is available, I usually buy it.  This really is a dilemma for me.

@doubleofive

Your receiver is probably just playing the core of the Dolby TrueHD, which is essentially Dolby Digital.  DTS works in the same way.  If one has a receiver that can receive standard DTS, it will play the core of DTS HD mixes, which again is essentially standard DTS.

Author
Time

DTS can be beneficial for some films due to the higher bitrate, but I usually prefer to watch films in their original release format. If it was a Dolby release then I stick with that track unless the other is a preferred option by the people involved etc.

The difference can be heard on some films: Tomorrow Never Dies was impressive in its Dolby mix. (like it was in the theater-okay movie, great sound mix) I switched over to the DTS just out of curiosity and was blown away.

Then again, I'm talking about standard and not HD or lossless.

The only way I can see DTS for Star Wars is using the 1997 DTS mix for the Special Edition and a brand new DTS 70mm mix (like the one created for the Vertigo restoration).

VADER!? WHERE THE HELL IS MY MOCHA LATTE? -Palpy on a very bad day.

“George didn’t think there was any future in dead Han toys.”-Harrison Ford

My review blog: thehificelluloidmonster.wordpress.com

Author
Time

captainsolo said:

DTS can be beneficial for some films due to the higher bitrate

Well, Dolby maintain that their compression is better, so their tracks do not need higher bitrate.  :-)  Some films might sounds better one way or the other, but I think that is how the tracks are made rather than the compression used.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

vader

 

Only the originals from the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo Dolby format 42 will sound better on DVD/Bluray.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

mmm ewok

 

Only the originals from the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo Dolby format 42 will sound better on DVD/Bluray.

Author
Time

fishmanlee said:

i'll just let someone else buy it and rip the rear channels to get complete scores of the Prequels/ROTJ..............

Yes, why buy it when you can steal what you want from it?

Nice.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

jar jar

 

Only the originals from the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo Dolby format 42 will sound better on DVD/Bluray.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

binks

 

Only the originals from the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo Dolby format 42 will sound better on DVD/Bluray.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

(Theoretical) Retail releases do not need to be "liberated," only purchased.