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^Joke fail?
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TV's Frink said:
haljordan28 said:
What hasent this pos lied about?
He's a cash register?
Need help decyphering that?
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Not at all. ;-)
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Anchorhead said:
Bingowings said:
Oh I believe you Anchorhead.
Dammit!! I have a sneaking suspicion that isn't sincere.
;-)
Nope in this instance I am being a sincere creep (unlike 99% of the time):-1
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^Sincere creep.
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
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^Observant Olie.
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DOUBLE TOAST
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I am also here for the, as yet unannounced but inevitable 'knobbly-knees' competition which after years of preparation I have a degree of confidence in being in with a chance and of course 'hospitality nibbles'.
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Bingowings said:
I am also here for the, as yet unannounced but inevitable 'knobbly-knees' competition which after years of preparation I have a degree of confidence in being in with a chance and of course 'hospitality nibbles'.
I'd enter this knobby-knees contest. I may not win, but I can promise I'll be a worthy challenger!
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DOUBLE TOAST
YAY! I've started a meme
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TV's Frink said:
I came to find out more about adywan's Revisited project and stayed for the preservations and discussions....
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...Ok, I stay for the lolz. Which are more frequent in a loosely moderated place as mentioned above.
Ditto, word-for-word.
I just like this place. I'm an unashamed enormous Star Wars nerd. I more or less devour every bit of anything labeled "Star Wars" I can get my hands on, and I spend a lot of my free time on Wookieepedia. Star Wars has pretty much defined my life since I first saw it in '93 or '94 (yeah, I'm young).
Despite my interest in the EU and my acceptance of the official canon/timeline (for the most part), that certainly doesn't mean I'm in love with all of it. Things like my adamant hatred of Karen Traviss' Mandalorian stuff and the New Jedi Order series, and of course the fact that while I believe the PT has a mostly-sound outline but a really horrifying execution shows that I'm not a total Lucas-apologist.
Conversely, I don't totally agree with everyone here. Sometimes I'll be reading through a thread, shaking my head and thinking "Are you fucking serious?" as I'm reading about some of the nit-pickier issues that people have with Lucas. And I find it mind-boggling that some people, Anchorhead, for example, would limit their Star Wars universe so severely when I think that ESB was a masterpiece and that there's a ton of really great EU out there. But at the same time, I don't fault them for it.
This place has really opened my eyes to a lot about Star Wars fandom. I always knew that Lucas was being an ass for not releasing the and that the prequels were nowhere near as good as the OT, but I'd never considered the idea of picking and choosing canon (even though I had with the NJO and Traviss). It's just nice here. And now, because of all I've learned here, I can put my 2004 OT DVDs on the shelf and call Ady's Revisited my definitive SE version, and his theatrical reconstructions my definitive OUT.
You can also blame Tobar for me.
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Tyrphanax said:
I find it mind-boggling that some people, Anchorhead, for example, would limit their Star Wars universe so severely when I think that ESB was a masterpiece
I don't expect someone who came on after the trilogy was a completed entity to understand my level of fandom. I saw Star Wars in 1977. Loved it. Greatest film I'd ever seen. A few years later a sequel came out that I also liked, but not at the same level. It looked different, it felt different, the characters had changed, and the story had changed. Because of that, I wasn't all-in (as they say these days). A few years after that, a second sequel - which I hated.
That's not some sort of "Are you fucking serious?" situation. Plenty of films have sub-par sequels, or even terrible sequels. If someone doesn't continue to follow a franchise because of it, it shouldn't be mind-boggling.
The twenty-somethings who came into Star Wars after it was a finished entity are no different than the twenty-somethings who discovered Indiana Jones after the original three were a completed entity. The experience of (and the reaction to) a story that took some of us eight years to watch, is going to be inherently different than it is for someone seeing all of it in just six hours.
For us, there were several years between films. Those years were full of life experiences - new friends, new schools, driving, girls, jobs, first apartments, new films to discover, etc, etc. We went into each film as a different person than we were three or four years earlier.
To the twenty-somethings seeing it all at once and for the first time, ten years after it's completed, they bring a single view point into that initial experience. That view point is who they are that day, not who they were becoming over the course of a decade.
I don't expect you to understand that process beyond just imagining it. You can't truly understand a journey unless you were actually on that journey. It's that way for a great many things.
For the record; I want to make one thing very clear. My above explanation isn't a dig on newer fans. Far from it. I have absolutely nothing against any age group coming into the fandom at any time. You get here when you get here. All are welcome.
and that there's a ton of really great EU out there.
I've started to remedy my limited EU experience. It's going quite well, by the way.
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I'm pretty much just here for the preservations and I'll occationally throw my two cents worth into a conversation. I'm not really against the prequels or special edititons like many people here but I am a very strict believer in preservation of film history. In a perfect world where Lucas actively catered to all of his fans and put out both versions of the movies in good quality, I'd probably watch both versions about 50/50 each. If I'm actually in the mood for the full "Tradgdy of Darth Vader" as he's calling it now, I'll go ahead and watch the official version straight through from 1-6 and other times when I'm in the mood for "The Adventures of Luke Skywalker" it's theatricals only. To me, both versions have their pluses and minuses. I hate Greedo shooting first as much as the next guy but I love the new shot of Han running into the docking bay full of Stormtroopers, the Wampa scene, the Cloud city exteriors, and the new music in the Jedi finale.
I don't believe I have to pick a version and go with it. I like having multiple versions so I can change up the experience. My favorite cut of Dawn of the Dead is theatrical version but I'll still watch the European and Extended versions from time to time. With Army of Darkness, I'll switch back and forth between the Captain Supermarket ending and the Apocalypse ending every other time I watch it.
To me though, it's just tiring to constantly be pissed off all the time. It use to be fun being a Star Wars fan but with all the crap nowadays with infighting among fans, I'd almost rather kick back and accept Jar Jar than continue raging constantly. I don't have to like Jar Jar but I can learn to tolerate him.
So I guess I'm just here for an alternative. I lurk around on TFN and listen to their Podcast every week. I tune into the Clone Wars and I have every intention of buying the blu rays for all 6 films. And yet I'm still here.
"George, we hate you for making more Star Wars movies. Please make more Star Wars movies."
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I lurked around here from as far back as 2002/2003-----but did not join up until 2009/10!
What drew me here was a UK fan called "Wormie"--he claimed to have seen an extended version of Star Wars back in 78'---he was proven to be wrong---but it took a while!
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=4&threadid=143&STARTPAGE=1" target="_blank" title="web.archive.org/web/20030615030308/http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=4&threadid=143&STARTPAGE=1">http://web.archive.org/web/20030615030308/http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=4&threadid=143&STARTPAGE=1
I saw Star Wars in 1977. Many, many, many times. For 3 years it was just Star Wars...period. I saw it in good theaters, cheap theaters and drive-ins with those clunky metal speakers you hang on your window. The screen and sound quality never subtracted from the excitement. I can watch the original cut right now, over 30 years later, on some beat up VHS tape and enjoy it. It's the story that makes this movie. Nothing? else.
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Tyrphanax said:
And I find it mind-boggling that some people, Anchorhead, for example, would limit their Star Wars universe so severely when I think that ESB was a masterpiece and that there's a ton of really great EU out there. But at the same time, I don't fault them for it.
I talked about this in another thread, but I know alot of people who consider Star Wars '77 their true canon and think the rest of the stuff is alright.
It all depends on when you're born in alot of instances (now i am generalizing so not everyone will be lockstep). I am 38 years old, and saw SW in '77 at 5 years, so EVERYONE of my friends is an OOT fan, as we love SW, love ESB, and put up with Jedi because it completes the trilogy.
Most of my older brothers friends are just SW '77 fans. They saw SW in '77 at 12-13 years old, and by the time they saw ESB/ Jedi they were highschool and thought the Vader revelation was where the series went wrong, and kind of laugh at Jedi the same way many of us laugh at the PT.
So trust me, there are a load of fans who don't think ESB is the greatest movie (I am not one of them as I love the movie), but if you look at the re-release in 1997, the total grosses of each movie do tell you something about the OT generation:
Star Wars: 138 Million
Empire: 57 million
Jedi: 45 million
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Anchorhead said:
A few years later a sequel came out that I also liked, but not at the same level. It looked different, it felt different, the characters had changed, and the story had changed. Because of that, I wasn't all-in (as they say these days). A few years after that, a second sequel - which I hated.
Dude! If you don't like Empire or Jedi you can just f-off! What are you even doing at a site like this anyway if you don't even care about 5/6th of Star Wars?
Geez, some people will hate anything!
;)
Hehehe! Sorry, I haven't heard anyone get hostile on you for a while and felt an uncontrollable urge to be a dork.
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Tyrphanax said:
(yeah, I'm young).
Pfft. Amateur.
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CP3S said:
Anchorhead said:
A few years later a sequel came out that I also liked, but not at the same level. It looked different, it felt different, the characters had changed, and the story had changed. Because of that, I wasn't all-in (as they say these days). A few years after that, a second sequel - which I hated.
Dude! If you don't like Empire or Jedi you can just f-off! What are you even doing at a site like this anyway if you don't even care about 5/6th of Star Wars?
Geez, some people will hate anything!
;)
Hehehe! Sorry, I haven't heard anyone get hostile on you for a while and felt an uncontrollable urge to be a dork.
Yell all you want, man. You're responsible for my Star Wars world being where it is - NPR and the Daley novels. Which in turn led to my EU growth. Truth is, I left the one film I like even further behind because of you.
And for that, sir - I thank you. ;-)
You're right though. It has been a while since I was forced to explain to someone how much I love the first film - while defending how much I love the first film - by giving examples of how much I love the first film.
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Stupid question: is CP3S the artist formerly known as C3PX?
You know of the rebellion against the Empire?
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Ye.
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Ziggy is a baby? Dayum.
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Anchorhead said:
Yell all you want, man. You're responsible for my Star Wars world being where it is - NPR and the Daley novels. Which in turn led to my EU growth. Truth is, I left the one film I like even further behind because of you.
Oh man, now I am going to be the one getting fans yelling at me for driving you away from the only SW film you really liked! I better find a place to hide.
Actually, it is kind of funny how it is a two-way street. It seems every time I start to forget how much I love the radio drama, you bring it up and sell it to me all over again. Just from reading this post I have the urge to listen to it again. Now you've even got me thinking about rereading the Star Wars Tales from... books.
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Stupid question: is CP3S the artist formerly known as C3PX?
Affirmative. It is kind of a funny story actually. A very long story too. A very long and funny story. You see, it all began when I realized I forgot my password after having it completely deleted from my computer's memory, followed shortly by the discovery that the email I used to register C3PX is no longer active, and... well... actually that is the end of the story.
Never mind, it really wasn't that long after all. Come to think of it, it wasn't really very funny either.
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Come to think of it, Tales from the Bounty Hunters was the last EU novel I ever bought, in 1998. It's weird to think back to that time when I actually anticipated new novels. There was only one or two a year at that point!
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I honestly don't remember how I found this site. I stay because it is an oasis of sanity in a sea of lunacy.
"Close the blast doors!"
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Anchorhead said:
The twenty-somethings who came into Star Wars after it was a finished entity are no different than the twenty-somethings who discovered Indiana Jones after the original three were a completed entity. The experience of (and the reaction to) a story that took some of us eight years to watch, is going to be inherently different than it is for someone seeing all of it in just six hours.
For us, there were several years between films. Those years were full of life experiences - new friends, new schools, driving, girls, jobs, first apartments, new films to discover, etc, etc. We went into each film as a different person than we were three or four years earlier.
To the twenty-somethings seeing it all at once and for the first time, ten years after it's completed, they bring a single view point into that initial experience. That view point is who they are that day, not who they were becoming over the course of a decade.
Thankyou for this Anchorhead. I enjoy reading posts that clarify your personal Star Wars experience as I feel they give me a larger understanding of the Star Wars community as a whole. I would say it is not just twenty-somethings that these statements speak to but a majority of us, even if we did experience the theatrical runs.
The reason you are one of the posters I have made a point of questioning is precisely because your view is outside "the norm" for this forum, and reading accounts of your experiences and perspectives helps me to better examine and understand my own; hopefully in a more objective fashion. By having a narrower focus you have broadened my Star Wars universe in your own way.
I also came for the preservations and stayed for the lols :P In addition I appreciate the knowledge, expertise, sense of humour and different viewpoints of the many different members here.
I myself do not particularly appreciate the prequels, I think George deserves the bashing that any of us feel is necessary at any given time and I think fans of any or all parts of the original trilogy and 97SE versions, fans of cinema and the general public (whether they know it or not) are having their own personal histories rewritten by an egomaniac.
I appreciate the freedom with which I can say this on ot.com and not be censored or banned from the site by Lucas yes-men - another reason I am here.