How many of you watch the Clone Wars series regularly and what do you think of it? — Page 2

Maybe I'll watch it when the series is done...you know...as a prequel!

Honestly I haven't seen the movie since theaters.

Maybe I remember it worse than it actually is.

I haven't watched it. I have no interest in exploring anything Star Wars if I know it won't fit in my personal canon. I guess that makes me anal, but ... well ... so sue me =D

Alexrd said:

Bingowings said:

It didn't deserve a cinema release

I think that was the main reason for being so badly recieved. It was not made for cinema, it wasn't "the 7th Star Wars movie", and most reviews didn't realized it was a pilot for a TV series. Hence the surprise to many when they saw the premiere of the series.

But yes, the movie wasn't so bad. I enjoyed both Christophsis and Jabba's Palace parts. And they got Christopher Lee, so that's a plus.

 I agree. If it had been a TV movie I think people would have looked more kindly on it.

As it was, I'd view it as a middle-of-the-road episode. A fun ride, nothing ground shaking.

Pity they didn't keep Lee on for the show. The dude who does Dooku is ok, but NO ONE is Christopher Lee.

My wife and I have become devoted Clone Wars fans; we watch it every week and really quite enjoy it. I'm the real Star Wars nerd in the equation, but the show has made her like Star Wars again (me too, come to think of it).

She has said on many occasions: "If only they skipped the prequels and went right to this show, Star Wars would be unequivocally awesome again." (She may or may not have used the word, "unequivocally.")

Like any show, not all the episodes are winners, but the writing is generally quite good, and surprisingly mature. I have come to love clone troopers, I like Anakin (finally), and despite a lot of fans' moaning, I really like Ahsoka.

I agree with others' comments that the stories add some much-needed depth and nuance to events that seem thin and hard to fathom in the prequels. By this point in season three, we have seen Anakin as more of a real person, and we can understand his plight much, much better than the seemingly awkward vignette presented within Revenge of the Sith.

Sadly, it's true that while GL had the best intentions with the prequels, the execution wasn't quite up to the task (I know, understatement of the year). And though this is not how I would have preferred things, I feel like the Clone Wars is patching a lot of those holes and smoothing out most of those rough edges, so that the grand story starts to flow again. It's not Shakespeare, but it's enjoyable.

Everyone's asking, of course, "What's going to happen to Ahsoka?" since we know she isn't in Episode III. I am more curious, besides, to know, "What's going to happen after Revenge of the Sith?" I would like a similar series to help that transition between Episodes III and IV be a little smoother than it seems right now.

I think Clone Wars proves that Star Wars really does work best when it's episodic and serialized—maybe if GL had gone this route after the OT, the story we wanted to see would have been much better represented.

Lestrade said:

My wife and I have become devoted Clone Wars fans; we watch it every week and really quite enjoy it. I'm the real Star Wars nerd in the equation, but the show has made her like Star Wars again (me too, come to think of it).

She has said on many occasions: "If only they skipped the prequels and went right to this show, Star Wars would be unequivocally awesome again." (She may or may not have used the word, "unequivocally.")

 Your wife and I would be in agreement.

I've watched most of it, and find it to be very inconsistent, with some terrible crap like the virus episode and some pretty good episodes that are better than anything in Episodes 2 & 3.

Sometimes I get the feeling they're not sure who their target audience is (a problem you could say is also present on the prequels). It seems the show started as an excuse to sell more toys and to gain a tween audience, so we got Ashoka Tano, the cool, teenage girl student who calls Anakin skyguy and sounds and dresses like Hannah Montana or whatever kids like these days. That was toned down quickly, I don't think she ever said skyguy ever again and even now she's dressed differently and has become almost a likeable characther.

So we've got some dumb Jar Jar episodes, the ridiculous virus episode. Then we've got what could be considered some pretty dark episodes for children and also what would be some incredibly boring episodes for children so I'm guessing they're not the target anymore. It seems lately the show is on a "fanwank" overdrive so their target must be SW fanboys who want to see Jabba, Darth Maul, Chewbacca, Tarkin, Qui-Gon, the Carbon Freezing Chamber, Detention Block AA23, Sy Snootles, Greedo, etc...

If I liked the prequels, continuity would be an issue though. The whole show seems to me to big to go completely unmentioned on ROTS. The last arc they pretty much met the Dark and Light sides of the force in person, which I would think might come up in a conversation, you know, if you're deciding to turn to the dark side like Anakin did. And of course the fact that Ashoka is never mentioned again, which regardless of the way they chose to eliminate her, makes no sense.

TheBoost said:

 Your wife and I would be in agreement.

 

Ah, very cool! I just read this thread (I somehow missed it before) and I agree. Since Lucas is executive-producing the show, and not directing or specifically writing, I feel things are much, much better.

The fact that Clone Wars is a cartoon, too, makes a lot of what was difficult to relate to in the prequels much more believable. All the tireless jumping, fighting and superhero maneuvering is fun to watch, instead of crashing against my disbelief as a viewer.

Also, the show has some actually interesting space battles. It's really neat to see the clone commanders in charge of Republic/Imperial destroyers. Nothing like a long, slow shot of one of those big ol' boats amongst the stars to remind me why I liked Star Wars in the first place.

I like the space battles and any episodes base soley, if that's how you spell it, on the Clone troopers are the best episodes. The one episode i hate is the one on Mandalore For a few reasons:

1. In the documentry as well as in the episode, GL confirmed this, Jango Fett is not a Mandalorian. Which I'm denying anyways.

2. They made Mandalore on Coruscanti looking. From what i've read about it, there are no cities, well no huge cities like the one portrayed in the show. In was mostly flat ground, lots of country and so on.

3. The Episode itself just sucked entirley

skyjedi2005 said:

I like it, its kind of like a modern version of marvel star wars, takes Continuity with a grain of salt, Which is fun. I just dislike the obvious modern Lucas touches.

I also dislike that it is not EU and is Canon with the films, but hey whatever George knows best,lol.

 

Erik i think the live action could be good in certain circumstances. Like Lucas does not direct, and someone else writes the episodes. Guest writers and guest Directors like Young Indy, and up and comers in the industry as well as industry veterans.

As for Clone Wars i think it is really cool Walter Murch is directing an episode for season 4.

I think Return to Oz is unfairly maligned by Critics.

Still he is an incomparable editor, and sound guy.

Although, I really don't care about Star Wars "canon" anymore (and haven't for awhile since the term is really meaningless... it's no guarentee of quality OR continuity), technically the Clone Wars movie and the CGI series are in a category all their own called "T-Canon" (short for TV canon, even though it doesn't include ANY of the other Star Wars shows or movies that have appeared on TV like the Ewok adventures or even the previous Clone Wars series). The "canon" just morphs into whatever they want to include whatever they want. I think the only reason they keep the term at all is because they think fans care about whether something is "canon" or not. Even the films aren't very consistent with one another, and if Lucas himself doesn't care that much, then how much less will the hired writers who are constrained by Lucas' bottom line?

So essentially the CGI series stands alone, even if it appears to be loosely following the movies (like everything else in the SW franchise, it's all loosely following the films). It is certainly not the case that somehow this is "above" or "more real" than the rest of the EU (from the best of it to the worst).

It's sad when a (supposed) kids show is the best thing going in Star Wars. To me it's okay, but it might as well not be Star Wars at all, that's just a hook to get fans to watch it ("omg watch me or you're missing part of the Star Wars story!!!")

My philosophy is that these are just entertainment. I like what I like, regardless of what "level" or "category" it fits into. But it's not like somehow the rest of the EU has vanished in favor of the six films and the CGI series.

I will agree that the TV episodes I've seen were generally better overall than the big screen movie (which felt like an average TV episode anyway). Anakin is generally portrayed as a more likable "hero." Overall, some of the interpretations or ideas of the Prequel stuff is more interesting or cooler at times, but in general the technology seems a lot weaker (bringing Star Wars down to the level of Star Trek, let's say; this is the polar opposite of the previous cartoon series which turned all the main characters into gods, and exaggerated nearly everything's power to silver age comic book level) and the Jedi, if anything, seem even more incompetent than before (a staple of kid's cartoons is that both good guys and bad guys are dumb, though the good guys are just a tiny bit smarter than the bad guys, at least by the end of an episode). So while some episodes are clearly fan-service, it feels like a competely different interpretation of the Star Wars universe, using Prequel (mostly) characters.

After hearing your generally good comments about it, I decided to try the series out myself. I am pretty impressed. It actually has likable characters and engaging plots. Consider me a future frequent viewer. :-)

Oh yea, its a good T.V. series. There are just episodes i find questionable. Those that follow the EU can find a lot of inconsistencies. Even if not the EU, i'm sure you can find inconsistencies between the movies and the series.

I still enjoy it. I more look forward to seeing the Clone troopers though, because they really fit their personalities. Especially when it is consistent with the novels. It reminds me exactly the way i would picture the commandos in the republic commando series.

All in all, this series will definitly create a whole new generation of star wars fans and prlly keep star wars alive for generations to come.

Hoth-Nudist said:

Ive watched bits n pieces of several episodes, but quickly change the channel due to excessive silliness.  I think the series is shit and just a continuation of PT garbage.  The inclusion of jar-jerk is just more of Luca$ giving PT opponents(like me) the middle finger.  All in all I dont like SW being reduced to a silly simple minded cartoon just so Luca$ can continue cashing in on his manic merchandise crusade.

Jar-jerk?  Luca$?  First I've heard of these things...please tell me more!

WhatsMyName said:

 

1. In the documentry as well as in the episode, GL confirmed this, Jango Fett is not a Mandalorian. Which I'm denying anyways.

 I've said it before but as continuity, canon, and retcons go, this is the wierdest. Look at this sequence of events.

1. Boba Fett is introduced. He is cool.
2. The entire Mandalorian civilization is created based on how cool Boba Fett is.
3. The Clone Army is intricatly tied in to the Mandalorian civilization in perhaps the most deeply realized cultural work in all of the Star Wars EU.
4. Now Boba, Jango, and the Clones are no longer Mandalorians. Just cuz.

It's a great show. Best thing under the Star Wars name right now.

fishmanlee said:

The Show is good but its missing John Williams BAAAD....

Yeah, Kevin isn't really going for a John Williams feel, or even anything close it. It's not bad, just not fitting for Star Wars, and the music isn't very special.

The music is one part of the show that actually has been improving. It started terrible in the movie with the techno and ethnic music, but lately it has gotten a more SW and Williams feel.

On the Mortis arc, the main theme of those episodes seemed to be a variation on the Force theme, the Force theme was heard a couple of times and even Qui-Gon's theme from TPM (yes he has a theme) made an appearance, it was nice they brought it back even if it's a rather obscure theme.