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Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this? — Page 5
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
Yeah, perhaps you came at the films in a more unbaised position. The vast majority of people did I would assume. Most people who went to see the prequels were fans of good movies in general and were simply hoping to be entertained. They didn't live and breath Star Wars like some of us fans did. When they saw the films they found them to be inferior movies in general sense. They took their kids to see the films, but, other than that, they had no great desire to see them. The prequels are as laughable to this crowd as a crappy, kiddie cartoon from the 80s.
Anyways, despite the fact that I suppose there were some hardcore-Star-Wars fans that disliked the prequels because they weren't like the original Star Wars movies, I simply wanted to say that I had the exact opposite reaction. I would believe most fans were loyal enough to have the same reaction I did. They were wowed by the fact that they could see new Star Wars films after many long years and came in with the bias of actually wanting to enjoy them.
Originally posted by: auximenies
I can't say that I ever enjoyed the PT, but prior to seeing TPM I was VERY excited about a new SW movie. There was no reason for me to decide ahead of time that I wouldn't like it. SW defined my youth, and the fact that Episode I was actually being made was like a dream come true.
The only thing that my dislike for the PT has to do with my love for the OT is this: I like good movies. The OT were good movies. The PT were not. These opinions were formed AFTER seeing the films, not prior to.
I can't say that I ever enjoyed the PT, but prior to seeing TPM I was VERY excited about a new SW movie. There was no reason for me to decide ahead of time that I wouldn't like it. SW defined my youth, and the fact that Episode I was actually being made was like a dream come true.
The only thing that my dislike for the PT has to do with my love for the OT is this: I like good movies. The OT were good movies. The PT were not. These opinions were formed AFTER seeing the films, not prior to.
Yeah, perhaps you came at the films in a more unbaised position. The vast majority of people did I would assume. Most people who went to see the prequels were fans of good movies in general and were simply hoping to be entertained. They didn't live and breath Star Wars like some of us fans did. When they saw the films they found them to be inferior movies in general sense. They took their kids to see the films, but, other than that, they had no great desire to see them. The prequels are as laughable to this crowd as a crappy, kiddie cartoon from the 80s.
Anyways, despite the fact that I suppose there were some hardcore-Star-Wars fans that disliked the prequels because they weren't like the original Star Wars movies, I simply wanted to say that I had the exact opposite reaction. I would believe most fans were loyal enough to have the same reaction I did. They were wowed by the fact that they could see new Star Wars films after many long years and came in with the bias of actually wanting to enjoy them.
I think you missed my point. I came at them (or, TPM actually) with a biased position. I was planning on enjoying TPM because it was a SW film and I was looking forward to it very much. The difference between me and you was that it didn't take me multiple viewings to realize that I didn't like it. But our points are the same, and contrary to Gomer's assertion. We weren't pre-disposed to disliking TPM. We were pre-disposed to liking it.
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Have any of you have ever read about Martin Scorsese and how he and his film buddies would sit in an apartment all day and night watching old foreign movies that they projected onto a white apartment wall? They'd cover their windows with blankets so the sunlight wouldn't ruin the projection and they'd watch movie after movie projected onto a friggin' wall..... meanwhile, people are worried about aspect ratios and sound mixes for kids 50 years from now... put things in perspective, folks.
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Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
You know, people need to come half way. There's those who want to be entertained, then there are those whose job is to actually entertain. Lucas didn't do his job properly.
You know, people need to come half way. There's those who want to be entertained, then there are those whose job is to actually entertain. Lucas didn't do his job properly.
Says a guy on message board for a movie that's 30 years old.
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I guess some people were better at meeting him half way than others. He spent almost a decade constantlly working on the prequels, and you guys dismiss them in a few viewings.
It seems to me like Lucas put way more effort into entertaining us than a lot of us put into being entertained.
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Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
TPM, AOTC and ROTS are 30 years old? My, how time flies....
TPM, AOTC and ROTS are 30 years old? My, how time flies....
Oops you're right. Jar Jar Binks erases OT completly.
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And, yes, of course, Jar Jar trumps the OT... from a "certain point of view." Your point of view and Lucas' point of view.
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Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
No, Gomer, Lucas stood at the far end with the PT and waggled his finger and you came all the way over with your tongue lolling out.... you, too, Randy.
And, yes, of course, Jar Jar trumps the OT... from a "certain point of view." Your point of view and Lucas' point of view.
No, Gomer, Lucas stood at the far end with the PT and waggled his finger and you came all the way over with your tongue lolling out.... you, too, Randy.
And, yes, of course, Jar Jar trumps the OT... from a "certain point of view." Your point of view and Lucas' point of view.
Oh! The "You're just a blind Luca$ follower" line! Wheee!!
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Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
Well, go on, Randy, prove that you're not a water-toting stoogie for Lucas by being at least the tiniest bit critical about the PT's or Lucas himself. See if you can. And "I would like more scenes of Jar Jar Binks" just doesn't cut it.
Well, go on, Randy, prove that you're not a water-toting stoogie for Lucas by being at least the tiniest bit critical about the PT's or Lucas himself. See if you can. And "I would like more scenes of Jar Jar Binks" just doesn't cut it.
I like the OT more than the PT.... believe it or not it's possible to like both!
I thought the OOT should be available on DVD.... some of the SE sucks, should I go on?-George Lucas
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Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
Yes, please. It's refreshing to hear that more than your kicking sand on the campfire of those expect a little better than medocrity.
Yes, please. It's refreshing to hear that more than your kicking sand on the campfire of those expect a little better than medocrity.
I like to think of it as kicking sand on a fire flamed by fanboy rhetoric.
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That doesn't make him a hypocrite.
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What is it specifically that bugs you about what they say? I don't know how this all matters to you.
Also, I find it hard to believe you prefer the OT over the PT. If you had any respect for the OT, you would notice and criticize the faults of the PT in comparison to the originals (and I'm talking story-wise. SFX, yes are incredibly advanced in the PT), of which you haven't pointed out yet. Why do you prefer the OT over the PT?
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It's too bad Marquand isn't still around, but from most accounts he had very little to do with ROTJ.
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Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
But Randy, why do you feel the need to do that? So what if they're saying "rhetoric"---rhetoric doesn't mean it's untrue.
What is it specifically that bugs you about what they say? I don't know how this all matters to you.
Also, I find it hard to believe you prefer the OT over the PT. If you had any respect for the OT, you would notice and criticize the faults of the PT in comparison to the originals (and I'm talking story-wise. SFX, yes are incredibly advanced in the PT), of which you haven't pointed out yet. Why do you prefer the OT over the PT?
But Randy, why do you feel the need to do that? So what if they're saying "rhetoric"---rhetoric doesn't mean it's untrue.
What is it specifically that bugs you about what they say? I don't know how this all matters to you.
Also, I find it hard to believe you prefer the OT over the PT. If you had any respect for the OT, you would notice and criticize the faults of the PT in comparison to the originals (and I'm talking story-wise. SFX, yes are incredibly advanced in the PT), of which you haven't pointed out yet. Why do you prefer the OT over the PT?
I've criticized the PT on other boards and I've criticized the OT.... neither are perfect movies. Like most OT fans they're more dear to my heart, but I don't clutch them so tightly that I kill everything that is fun about SW... like I think some fans have.
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Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
Okay, that's all well and good, but that doesn't automatically crown you as the King of Smacketh-them-downth.
Okay, that's all well and good, but that doesn't automatically crown you as the King of Smacketh-them-downth.
Never said I was, but thanks for considering me for the position.
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