Has there ever been a good comedy sequel? — Page 3

DrCrowTStarwars said:

Possessed said:

Why?

 Have you seen his recent movies?

That and he comes off as a jerk who is completely full of himself.

 I've enjoyed most of Smith's films, and would even call "Dogma" a truly GREAT film.

But when a dude made almost as many films about himself and how cool he is as he has made actual movies its hard to like him.

I think artists who complain about critics as much as Smith does shows a character flaw, and I thought it was classless the way he threw Bruce Willis under the bus for the mediocre 'Cop Out."

I also would say the way Smith doesn't finish the (IMHO lousy) comic books he writes shows a contempt for the medium he claims to respect. He's handed the keys to the castle to write "Batman" and takes a pee on the door and leaves.

Yeah now my only run in with critics has only been in the form of fan fiction but still not all reviews or PMs I have gotten have been polite, positive, or even nice but I just let those roll off of my back.  I also still try to understand the negative reviews and some of them have been a big help in making me a better writer so I don't see anything wrong with negative reviews and even find them helpful in some cases.  Also I don't hate all of Kevin Smith's films(I kind of like Jay and Silent bob strike back and from what I can tell a lot of people hate that one)so it's not that I am looking for a reason to hate the guy and I really liked Clerks the animated series.  It's just I guess it always strikes me as bad form when someone who is paid millions of dollars to produce something that people have to pay money to see responses negatively to critics.

Even if you don't agree with the critics, you put out art in public and one of the big points of producing art is to give people something to talk about IMO, so I don't see why when you are being paid more for one project then most people make in a life time you can't just let what the critics say roll off your back.  Even if they are rude why not be the bigger man.  If you complain too loudly it sounds like you think you are entitled to people's money and you think they should just shut up and pay to see what you made and that they don't have the right to say afterwords if they thought it was good or not.

If debating the merits of a piece of art is out of line then what is the point of art, if all we can do is pay to see it and then talk about how great it was?  Wouldn't that get dull after a while?

As for his fans maybe it is just something I have been through but my brother and his friends are big Kevin Smith fans so it seems like I can't go two days hearing about him, but that may just be me.

Still I think Hollywood over exposes even the movies I like these days, half the time with all the advanced trailers and marketing that start before the movie even starts shooting I am sick of a new film before it even hits theaters, I think maybe Hollywood would see a better return for their money if they took a less is more approach to marketing.

I find it grating with movies I like so when it comes to movies I don't it really gets on my nerves.

But again maybe this is just my problem and a problem with Hollywood in general and I shouldn't be taking it out on Kevin Smith.

EyeShotFirst said:

Guardians of the Galaxy looked like a crapfest in the trailer, and I was shocked at how much I liked the movie.

 That's for truth... I thought it looked so stupid in the trailers but when I saw the movie I was blown away.

The second Hangover is as terrible as everyone says, but the third is actually pretty great. One of the most unfairly maligned movies of the decade.

Can we talk about Bingowings here?

Only if he's starred in a good comedy sequel.

He may have in an alternate timeline, but I'll leave the investigations of that up to you.

Bingowings is a good comedy sequel.

hairy_hen said:

Bingowings is a good comedy sequel.

 To what?

That's the best part about it; nobody's quite been able to figure it out.  We know he's not the original film, since he makes cryptic references to things that must have come before, but it is now suspected that he's a sequel to a movie that has been lost, and not adequately preserved.

Some have conjectured it might be Star Wars, actually . . .