Info & Service: Audio and/or video captures offered... anyone interested?!?

Hello,

also if I have decided to NOT start another restoration myself (also if I think it will be a satisfactory challenge to start - and finish - a new one) I think someone who is missing something in his own project could be interested in some audio and/or video capture.

So, let’s begin to list the “stuff”:

HARDWARE:

• Pioneer HLD-X9 NTSC/MUSE LD player - only second to X0
• Panasonic LX-HD20 (clone of Sony HIL-C2X) NTSC/MUSE LD player - maybe the fourth best lasedisc player
• Pioneer DVL-909 PAL/NTSC LD player/PAL DVD player - still a good PAL player
• Pioneer CLD-D925 PAL/NTSC LD player - one of the best PAL players
• Pioneer CLD-2950 PAL/NTSC LD player - the other best PAL player
• Pioneer CLD-600 PAL LD player - basic player but without digital “frills”
• Pioneer LD-V4300D PAL/NTSC LD player - industrial, heavy, “a tank”!
• Philips LDP-600WS PAL/NTSC LD player - top of the MatchLine
• Pioneer DVR-320S PAL/NTSC DVD recorder - with a good 3D comb filter
• Sony Vaio desktop PC with Philips SAA713x capture card - an old Core 2 Duo PC with a good 9-bit card, but still good also with HD material
• Panasonic NV-FS200 PAL S-VHS recorder - still a very good VHS player
• various: RF AC-3 and CC decoders, CD recorder, a huge 55" HD LED TV

SOFTWARE:

• DScaler - Used to capture, because it could “see” my capture card directly and not through DShow, and then it captures better than, for example, VD
• AviSynth - Used for image improvements, through VD
• VirtualDub - Used mainly for compression
• KMPlayer - Main video player
• Media Player Classic - Second video player
• Paint (!) - For screenshots
• various little software to encode/decode audio, not found a “one-for-all” free and open source

NTSC USA LDs:

• Star Wars Trilogy: Definitive Collection [0693-84] (X2)
• Star Wars Trilogy: Special Edition (1997) [4102985] (X2)
• Star Wars: A New Hope (1977) [8763-85]
• Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (1980) [8764-85]
• Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (1983) [8765-85]

NTSC JAPAN LDs:

• Star Wars: The Phantom Menace (1999) [PILF-2830] (X2)
• Star Wars Trilogy: Collector’s Set [PILF-2070]
• Star Wars Trilogy: Definitive Collection [PILF-2071] - with also the following three documentaries:
• Star Wars: A New Hope: Making of: As told by C-3PO and R2-D2 (1977)
• Star Wars: SP FX: The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
• Star Wars: Classic Creatures: Return of the Jedi (1983)

PAL UK LDs:

• Star Wars Trilogy: Special Edition (1997) [EE 1232]

PAL FRANCE LDs:

• Star Wars: Coffret Trilogie [168035]
• Star Wars: Coffret Trilogie: Edition Collector [856235]
• Star Wars: Coffret Trilogie: Edition Spéciale (1997) [604735]
• Star Wars: La guerre des étoiles (1977) [113039] (X2)
• Star Wars: L’Empire contre-attaque (1980) [142539] (X2)
• Star Wars: Le retour du Jedi (1983) [147839] (X2)

PAL GERMANY LDs:

• Star Wars: Krieg der Sterne (1977) [5895-05]
• Star Wars: Das Imperium schlägt zurück (1980) [5896-05]
• Star Wars: Die Rückkehr der Jedi-Ritter (1983) [5897-05]
• Star Wars: Trilogie: Special Edition (Krieg der Sterne) (1997) [604705]

PAL SPAIN LDs:

• Star Wars: La guerra de las galaxias (1977) [0600] (X2)
• Star Wars: El imperio contraataca (1980) [0601] (X2)
• Star Wars: El retorno del Jedi (1983) [0602] (X2)

PAL ITALY VHS:

• Star Wars: Trilogia di Guerre Stellari Edizione Speciale (1997) [6047WS]
• Star Wars: Guerre Stellari - Widescreen (1995) [113035]
• Star Wars: L’impero Colpisce Ancora - Widescreen (1995) [142535]
• Star Wars: Il Ritorno Dello Jedi - Widescreen (1995) [147835]

PAL ITALY DVDs:

• Star Wars La Trilogia (2004) [F4-OITSSEA-27233CD]
• Star Wars: La Minaccia Fantasma (2001) [F4-SITS-22733DX]
• Star Wars: L’Attacco Dei Cloni (2002) [F4-SITS-22545DS]
• Star Wars: La Vendetta Dei Sith (2005) [F4-SITSSE-29309DE]
• Star Wars: Una Nuova Speranza (2006) [F4-SITSSE-33919DE]
• Star Wars: L’Impero Colpisce Ancora (2006) [F4-SITSSE-33920DE]
• Star Wars: Il Ritorno Dello Jedi (2006) [F4-SITSSE-33921DE]

PAL ITALY BLU-RAY

• Star Wars: La Saga Completa (2011) [F4-OITS-51416EF]

All the software have OAR video and stereo or DD audio.

I know the vast majority were captured, but it will be interesting, for example (to me, at least) watch a very good restoration with the italian language - the VHS HI-FI stereo is pretty good, surely better than the more-than-necessary compressed DD audio tracks found on the DVDs.

Plenty of resource, with so little time! 😉

Let me know what do you need and explain shortly how you will use the material on your project - I’ll try to do my best for the most interesting proposals!

i would be interested in a modern LD transfer of the phantom menace

Nope, all the Star Wars related material is on this list, sorry!

Attack of the Clones wasn't released on laserdisc.

toho-scope said:

i would be interested in a modern LD transfer of the phantom menace

we did a transfer awhile ago.

here:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Prequel-Bootlegs/post/555428/#TopicPost555428

maybe not on machines as good as the ones

listed. but decent.

they are posted in alt.binaries.starwars

later

-1

Added the Philips LD player and the BD box set.

Jetrell Fo said:

Maybe TPM could be updated to something of higher quality than Xvid?  I'd certainly like to see a theatrical Bluray sized one for the DTS project.  I have a Bluray player for my home but don't have a BD drive for the PC.

I wonder how a Muse capture of it would look?

I could do the laserdisc capture of TPM Japanese laserdisc using my two own copies, the Pioneer HLD-X9 and another high quality player (like Panasonic LX-HD20 MUSE) and/or another normal quality player (Pioneer CLD-D925 and LD-V4300D); then make some use of AviSynth median or TOOT script to blend the captures.

If there is someone interested, please post your comments here.

Thanks.

When my capture settings problems will be solved, I'll start capture a lot!

Thought to do the following first (all PAL):

OUT "Pyramid" (NO DVNR, white clipping and black crushing)

OUT THX French, French sub, German, Spanish (fewer DVNR and smear problems than NTSC DC)

1997 SE THX French, German, UK

All of them with different LD players, using (if present) also different copies; then TOOT them to get rid of dropouts and residual noise.

After them, The Phantom Menace - "only" two copies, but with so many players, including the HLD-X9, I think the capture will be good enough.

Maybe later also the NTSC DC US and JAP, plus the Collector's Edtion and "Faces", to be TOOTed too.

Stay tuned on this thread for the latest news!

Jetrell Fo said:

I would be interested in seeing this happen when you're ready to give it a go.  Maybe it could be used alongside Ady's Theatrical Reconstruction so the DTS audio could be added to the 5.1 AC3 that he used for it.

Although, I have this question....how does the LD cropping match up with the Bluray?  I know they fixed the issue and it is now the original theatrical cropping.  If they all match we might be able to come up with one really nice video presentation for this.

:) 

 

About the BD question, I'm a little embarassed now... ehm... because my own BD Exalogy is still srinkwrapped!!! ;-)

This is my defect... when I buy brand new DVDs or BDs, I always open them only when I watch the first time, never (as my friends do) at the very moment I'm home after I bought them!

Now that I solved the horizontal resolution problem - I'll capture at 720 and crop at 704 to be compatible with DVD format without loosing any vertical lines - the main problem is the deinterlace thing... I posted it in the right section, but because there is less "traffic" there than here, maybe someone here could help.

Here you are the link to the thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/How-to-capture-PAL-video-with-VirtualDub-as-interlaced/topic/14740/

When solved, I'll start immediately some test captures, post results here, and when the video quality will receive a formal forum "green light" I'll start to capture everything!

My hope is that few scenes here and there from my captures will be useful to improve some project.

Midnight, time to sleep, I'm getting TOO old... ;-)

Jetrell Fo said:

I'm not sure my query came out right.  The DVD was "zoomed", if I remember correctly, and they fixed it with the bluray release.  Do the LD and the Bluray match when it comes to the "zoom" issue the DVD had?

:)

The problem is, as my Blu Ray box set is still BRAND NEW, intact, unopened, as came out from the factory, I haven't seen yet so I could not answer it... about DVD, I'll check soon!

Yeah, yeah... necromancy. 

I'm curious, have you managed to get your hands on a MUSE decoder at all?

I'm really curious if SD Laserdiscs, fed to a MUSE decoder, and captured over Component cables might provide better quality than stand-alone LD players over S-Video.

If they were - I'd request new captures of everything :P

Do you do home movies? I have dozens of tapes that I would like done...FOR FREE :P

pittrek said:

Moth3r said:

Attack of the Clones wasn't released on laserdisc.

Hm...That's bad, was there at least a widescreen VHS ? My VHS is P&S

No, AOTC only had a fullscreen VHS release. Yet they included the deleted scenes at the end in 16:9...