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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW — Page 331

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@NeverarGreat: So, I take it you did not look at the comparison gallery, containing like 350 screenshots from v2.1?

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The Griff said:

I just remembered that there's this "dick measuring" thread for home theatre talk/boasting:

 

I wasnt trying to boast I was just showing Harmy my appreciation for his work by sharing with him a couple of screen shots, of which he understood and appreciated.

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There's something to be said of reviews of edits/preservations from people with projection setups. lpd's review of my Deathly Hallows pt 1 Extended proved to me that my edit held up nicely, even in a higher end setup :)

Some people call them Force Ghosts. I call them Midichlorian Swarms.

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Hey thanks NSP, its still our go to copy :-)

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Really? Link to info, please. Though I'm planning on making my own version and merging the two films into one, cutting out most of the 2nd one.

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NeverarGreat said:

In the dinner scene, the colors look off. Compare the colors of the flowers and foliage behind Owen to the still of the Senator Technicolor print. The greens are less bright, the purple in the flowers is too gray.

 

It seems that some shades of magenta have been globally replaced with a kind of greyish-brown. I noticed it also on some laserblasts.

-G

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g-force said:

It seems that some shades of magenta have been globally replaced with a kind of greyish-brown. I noticed it also on some laserblasts.

That is my fault, since it was caused by the old color correction of the BD that I made for Harmy. Pushing down the magenta was the only way I could find that would globally fix all the problems with it. Seriously, the use of magenta in the BD is horrible. Lots of things that should be red is magenta. Heck, even stuff that should be a soft brown.

So blame me. And of course Lucasfilm for the terrible BD master.

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Thanks You_Too. Without your initial correction, it would have been much harder for me to get the colors to where they are now. And if there were some minor flaws in your correction, they were more due to the source and were definitely worth the over all result.

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I suppose with the right colour-wheel, single-chip DLP can be OK. You'd still have the rainbow effect... The problem is most single-chip DLPs are designed for office use, so they boost white brightness at the expense of everything else by putting a clear segment in the colour wheel. It's great for powerpoint, terrible for everything else. And by necessity you're losing brightness because the projection system works by using colour filters to block out light; in the simple case of an RGB colour wheel, you're blocking out two thirds of the light at any given point in time. Three-chip DLP splits the light rather than filtering it, so it maintains brightness. That said, my frustration in that regard comes from me trying to light 180" and larger screens, not home theatre screens.

We've got a bunch of single-chip DLP projectors for our convention. Some Viewsonics, some Optomas, some Dells, some Acers, some BenQs, some Vivitek, and I might be forgetting some. They all uniformly have terribly colour, no matter what buzzwords they put or how well they claim to do. We put 'em up against one of our newer Epson 1940W, and the Epson just kicks their ass even when the Epson has a lower brightness rating.

That said, there is one disadvantage to 3LCD; it's not an LCD panel with RGB strips, so 3LCD tend to have a convergence issue; the red/green/blue subpixels don't line up perfectly well. You never notice this for film, but it makes them less than ideally suited for powerpoint.

I must admit, though, that I've never looked at a specifically home-theatre intended single-chip DLP projector, so my views may be skewed. It may certainly be true that they can have great colour when designed specifically for that task. The problem is that most of the projectors we're buying these days are over 4000 lumens. There are no home theatre projectors of any kind in that brightness range, only office projectors and in that range 3LCD beats the heck out of DLP office projectors.

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Guspaz said:

I suppose with the right colour-wheel, single-chip DLP can be OK. You'd still have the rainbow effect... The problem is most single-chip DLPs are designed for office use, so they boost white brightness at the expense of everything else by putting a clear segment in the colour wheel. It's great for powerpoint, terrible for everything else. And by necessity you're losing brightness because the projection system works by using colour filters to block out light; in the simple case of an RGB colour wheel, you're blocking out two thirds of the light at any given point in time. Three-chip DLP splits the light rather than filtering it, so it maintains brightness. That said, my frustration in that regard comes from me trying to light 180" and larger screens, not home theatre screens.

We've got a bunch of single-chip DLP projectors for our convention. Some Viewsonics, some Optomas, some Dells, some Acers, some BenQs, some Vivitek, and I might be forgetting some. They all uniformly have terribly colour, no matter what buzzwords they put or how well they claim to do. We put 'em up against one of our newer Epson 1940W, and the Epson just kicks their ass even when the Epson has a lower brightness rating.

That said, there is one disadvantage to 3LCD; it's not an LCD panel with RGB strips, so 3LCD tend to have a convergence issue; the red/green/blue subpixels don't line up perfectly well. You never notice this for film, but it makes them less than ideally suited for powerpoint.

I must admit, though, that I've never looked at a specifically home-theatre intended single-chip DLP projector, so my views may be skewed. It may certainly be true that they can have great colour when designed specifically for that task. The problem is that most of the projectors we're buying these days are over 4000 lumens. There are no home theatre projectors of any kind in that brightness range, only office projectors and in that range 3LCD beats the heck out of DLP office projectors.

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Luffy03 said:

While watching I noticed this little issue (some kind of lightsaber spot), but I'm not sure if it's not meant to be there ^^

http://s1279.beta.photobucket.com/user/MOTU-MAN/media/vlcsnap-2013-03-17-19h53m15s184_zpsad293f8f.png.html

 

He he, it's present in the original film. It just goes to show the level of dedication of Harmy. :)

What I saw of the colors in the screencaps uploaded looks damn near perfect to '77 SW, to transform the source material that is the '04 master which looks like a cheap hooker for the most part to how it now looks is a major accomplishment. Looking forward to check this out when it hits usenet, especially as I haven't seen the earlier ones.

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The right speed color wheel can do a lot to get rid of the rainbow effect, and admittedly my W1070 is 2000 lumen, but it is as bright of a home projector as I've seen, it can be seen pretty well in a lit room, and I'm throwing around 140" - 150", and could easily see this going beyond 180" without looking shabby...

BTW, which anime convention are you referring to?

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Now we're going to talk anime conventions?  Wonderful.

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lpd said:

I wasnt trying to boast I was just showing Harmy my appreciation for his work by sharing with him a couple of screen shots, of which he understood and appreciated.

Of course, lpd. After all, I did the same. Please excuse my sense of humour.

But, let's face it, we must have at least a little pride in our projector set ups. Not just because the they're awesome, but also because of the resources we've invested and sacrifices we've made in order to make them happen.

I could look at projector screenshots all day long and wouldn't want to dissuade you from posting more. They give a great idea of how v2.1 translates to larger displays.

I just wish I had a good camera!

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Hey Harmy,

I'm holding out for the blu ray, so I can't comment on the 2.1 yet.  But I gotta ask you something.  People keep commenting on a possible 2.5 release of Star Wars.  IF you decide to go that route, can you please hold it off until after you bring ESB & ROTJ up to a 2.0?

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When I played the 2.1 version on CyberLink PowerDVD and compared it side by side with your gallery photos, the CuberLink PowerDVD program makes the letters in the opening look more solid, but a tad bit more "darker"? Why is this?

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I see nobody is mentioning this but on 2.1 the (R) during the 20th Century Fox fanfare appears earlier than it does in 2.0

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I noticed that, but didn't notice it was different than 2.0. It also doesn't seem to have the 'gate weave' going on. Seems stable compared to the logo.

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Harmy said:

Well, that's weird. Here's an uloz.to link to said gallery:
http://uloz.to/xCsjYSE/v2-0-vs-v2-1-rar

 That link does not work. no matter what captcha you enter. I am not sure what language the website is in but trying to figure out what its asking you to do is a pain... No Go.

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PolyMeR said:

Harmy said:

Well, that's weird. Here's an uloz.to link to said gallery:
http://uloz.to/xCsjYSE/v2-0-vs-v2-1-rar

 That link does not work. no matter what captcha you enter. I am not sure what language the website is in but trying to figure out what its asking you to do is a pain... No Go.

yes, it works.  I just tried it.

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