I don't think I understood well how the final Blu-ray will be released: As a single BD50 or two BD25 or both?
And I love your new title :p
"Let's face it, the Ewoks sucked, dude" -Hurley, Lost 5x13-Some like it Hoth.
Please bear with me if I tend to get too excited about anything or say too much, I have issues.
Two BD25.
Harmy what special features will be on disc two other than those docs you mentioned earlier? Any special features on disc 1?
Harmy said:
Thanks for making the case for the DeEd, Klasodeth, but this was actually discussed before I have have said that I have no intention of putting the Despecialized Edition title in the main menu.
Harmy certainly deserves all the credit in the world, but I have to agree with the decision not to draw too much attention up front to the fan-edit/restoration nature of the feature film. The naming, while perfectly accurate and acceptable, usually proves confusing to the uninitiated, causing many instances where I've had to overly explain the concept when bestowing the DeEd on someone new. I find it nicer to let a person experience the movie as theatrically accurate as possible, and later explain how it came to be (also, if they're aware of the origin, I can't seem to help but point out the more complicated changes [okay, I end up pointing out most fixes] and ruin the experience to an extent by bringing up horrible SE changes all the time).
Moth3r said:
Thought this guide may be useful to others:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/How-to-play-Despecialized-Edition-V25-on-a-PS3-if-you-dont-have-a-BD-burner/topic/15996/I did notice a couple of points I'd like to ask about if you ever decide to do a V3.0, but I don't want to take anything away from what you've achieved here. Great work!
Nice guide, Moth3r, but one question about it. I see that you didn't extract the chapters (which, actually, I'm surprised to see appear as a track), and when you muxed it looks like it put in chapters at automated 5 minute intervals. Is there any way to preserve the GOUT chapters or is this a required sacrifice to get it to work with a PS3?
Harmy said:
Two BD25.
This is a very good decision, since I recently started pricing BD50s. Yikes.
re: the Star Wars vs. A New Hope discussion, I often refer to it as "the original Star Wars" or else if I say "Star Wars" and they say "which one?" I say "original".
It's less confusing to say "original" than to say "first."
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
Is there any way to preserve the GOUT chapters or is this a required sacrifice to get it to work with a PS3?
Yes. No. I'll add details to the guide later.
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Harmy said:
Two BD25.
Phew! Thanks.
"Let's face it, the Ewoks sucked, dude" -Hurley, Lost 5x13-Some like it Hoth.
Please bear with me if I tend to get too excited about anything or say too much, I have issues.
mkvtoolnix and subtitle editor don't like the provided .srt files
error message from mkvtoolnix
Error: '---' is neither a valid ISO639-2 nor a valid ISO639-1 code. See 'mkvmerge --list-languages' for a list of all languages and their respective ISO639-2 codes.
any ideas?
#update#
i run the subs i needed through jubler (open and then newly saved) and now mkvtoolnix has no problem with the remux.
I successfully extracted the main video and audio tracks that I desire. MKVExtract also appears to have generated a chapters list file, but how do I get this into tsmuxer or will chapter markers be lost in this process? There are only three options to choose and none of them involve importing the list file.
Harmy said:
Yeah, you'd need to use MKVExtract to demux the files from the MKV first and then mux in TS Muxer.
jdryyz said:
I successfully extracted the main video and audio tracks that I desire. MKVExtract also appears to have generated a chapters list file, but how do I get this into tsmuxer or will chapter markers be lost in this process? There are only three options to choose and none of them involve importing the list file.
Harmy said:
Yeah, you'd need to use MKVExtract to demux the files from the MKV first and then mux in TS Muxer.
I had to manually enter from the extracted file...
If you save the project, you can paste this in the appropriate area. My file will not exactly match, or I'd just post that (due to file path differences...)
Note that I left some preceding / trailing info, so paste carefully ;)
Once set, reopen your project and it should include chapters!
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MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:00:21.187999900;00:01:54.616999900;00:04:53.335000000;00:07:28.828000000;00:08:55.217000000;00:11:21.701000000;00:15:23.618000000;00:19:19.862000000;00:23:13.301977700;00:25:12.225000000;00:27:25.196000000;00:28:52.319000000;00:32:13.827000000;00:34:32.637000000;00:36:33.762000000;00:38:45.265000000;00:41:20.893000000;00:42:10.444000000;00:43:59.756000000;00:47:00.743000000;00:49:06.038000000;00:50:21.951000000;00:51:40.699000000;00:51:48.541000000;00:54:30.875000000;00:56:43.846000000;01:00:41.791000000;01:03:47.450000000;01:05:52.946000000;01:10:03.338000000;01:11:43.640977700;01:14:44.795000000;01:16:40.414000000;01:19:00.393000000;01:22:31.277000000;01:24:33.103000000;01:27:27.250000000;01:31:19.189000000;01:34:10.999000000;01:35:37.789000000;01:37:08.182000000;01:38:55.493000000;01:40:08.402000000;01:42:07.892000000;01:46:48.148000000;01:52:24.195000000;01:54:52.648000000;01:55:34.191000000;01:57:19.800000000 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC,
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zeropc said:
mkvtoolnix and subtitle editor don't like the provided .srt files
error message from mkvtoolnix
Error: '---' is neither a valid ISO639-2 nor a valid ISO639-1 code. See 'mkvmerge --list-languages' for a list of all languages and their respective ISO639-2 codes.
any ideas?
#update#
i run the subs i needed through jubler (open and then newly saved) and now mkvtoolnix has no problem with the remux.
The SRT files are just UTF-8-encoded text files with a byte-order mark--it's possible mkvtoolnix doesn't like that encoding (SRT files should not provide an ISO-639 code at all, so some very odd error is getting tripped there). If the Jubler processing is just stripping out the BOM or converting them to another Unicode format, that's probably fine, but if it's converting them to some 8-bit encoding, there may be some mangling with certain characters--check apostrophes and quotation marks for problems.
If mkvtoolnix supports BD-SUP files, you could use those from the project instead of the included SRT files.
EDIT: Verified that it seems mkvtoolnix supports BD-SUP files, so for those of you doing your own muxing, I'd recommend against using the SRT files and use the 720p SUP files from Project Threepio instead.
Moth3r said:
Lol. Sorry! (crouches in corner)
Very nice guide! ..my paste is from my .meta file used in creating a custom blu ray disc.
Thank you both. :)
#update 2#
while the remux now worked without problem, but the shown subs now don't show various symbols like ' or german extra symbols like ö, ä, ü
in jubler i don't see any problems. but in the remux it's broken.
zeropc said:
#update 2#
while the remux now worked without problem, but the shown subs now don't show various symbols like ' or german extra symbols like ö, ä, ü
in jubler i don't see any problems. but in the remux it's broken.
As I feared, the Jubler conversion is really just converting everything to 8-bit and throwing out all non-ASCII characters. I'd recommend using the SUP files unless you have some reason you really need to be using the SRT files.
jubler hasn't done anything. when i look at actual file, all the symbols are there. like i said before, subtitle-workshop doesn't like the srt files either. it opens them, but all the symbols are replaced with some strange code.
#update3#
i imported the subs in easySUP and there are the same problems. that's definitely i problem with the source subs coding.
somebody else have these problems?
Okay, I've got my BDMV and CERTIFICATE folder structure out of tsmuxer. Shouldn't this be fully playable through VLC since it is not protected?
Although it does play, VLC spits out a couple of errors:
"No suitable decoder module:
VLC does not support the audio or video format "undf". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this."
and is not displaying the chapter markers. Since this is this pretty much the final step before the burn, I wanted to be sure the BD data is functional. Can this be done without committing to a blank disc? I know that ImgBurn is also applying some additional BD formatting in preparation of disc burning, but even when I create an .iso, VLC still gives me trouble. It doesn't seem to play BD iso files. I can throw DVD iso files at it all day without problems.
Well I found a program that will mount my .iso as a virtual drive. Now VLC can play it back....although, it is choppy and the chapter skips cause the video/audio to break up momentarily. Perhaps just bad disc virtualization or does this actually represent the disc I made?
edit; I think I found my playback problem. Somehow my frame rate changed from 23.9x to something like 47.9x. What the hell?? It probably happened in the extraction stage.
Moth3r said:
You'll also need lube.
jdryyz said:Somehow my frame rate changed from 23.9x to something like 47.9x.
That's normal when VLC plays 23.976fps content. The frame-rate of the file itself has not really been changed.
It's normal with VLC playing back a Blu-Ray?? Because, all of my other film-based .mkv files always playback at 23.9. If it is normal, then there may still be cause for concern regarding my choppy playback. I wouldn't want to burn what I am seeing right now.
Also, will my actual Blu-Ray player (set top box) still report the 23.9/24 Hz playback with the disc I create? If it shows 47.9, then there is definitely something wrong.
Chewtobacca said:
jdryyz said:Somehow my frame rate changed from 23.9x to something like 47.9x.
That's normal when VLC plays 23.976fps content. The frame-rate of the file itself has not really been changed.
jdryyz said:
It's normal with VLC playing back a Blu-Ray??
Yes.
jdryyz said:
Also, will my actual Blu-Ray player (set top box) still report the 23.9/24 Hz playback with the disc I create?
Yes.