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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 59

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Coming back from reading the article. (Got a tweet from 005/SWrevisited a few minutes ago).

Really cool you're getting the recognition you deserve Harmy!

Maybe the extra note you sent the guy about owning the original licensed releases should be posted within the article and not in a comment that can easily be missed IMO. Wouldn't harm at all if you asked the guy to move it up I think.

 

But anyway, great article! You deserve it!

 

PS. Not mentioning ANH:R at the end when he mentions other efforts was kind of weird but maybe he hasn't seen it (doubt it) or just didn't like it. i just thought it was funny it wasn't mentioned.

 

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Wonderful article. You deserve all the recognition for a truly wonderful restoration job. For me, this is on par with the restorations of Vertigo and Lawrence of Arabia. I'm seeing things in the OT that I never noticed before, all because of the amazing HD quality of the image.

Cheers from Los Angeles.

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Congratulations, Harmy.  You are so deserving of top honors for this remarkable work.  You brought me back to Star Wars when I had lost hope of ever seeing it again... the way it was meant to be seen.  I'm also a big fan of Ady's Revisited, but I view that as the only "Special Edition" I ever want to consider.  Your restorations of the originals are outstanding and look incredibly good in HD.  Thank you, thank you and thank you.
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The blue saber fix in the training on the falcon scene has some black flicker towards the hilt in several shots.

I noticed this black flickering near the bottom of the blade during the Falcon training scene a few years ago while watching the 2004 dvd.  If you look at the same scene in the GOUT, you'll see that the original effects did not have this error; it's a screwup caused by glitchy digital re-composites.  Accordingly, I think it would be a good idea to fix it for the new version.

What is absolutely in need of fixing, though, is that the colours of the interior of Vader's TIE fighter cockpit are wildly inconsistent.  In the original every shot had the lighting as a strong red with the same saturation level, but in the 2004 version about half these shots have become pink, and some of them are so desaturated that they're almost colourless.  Usually this is just for the Vader shots, but sometimes it happens to his wingman also.  I would very much like to see these corrected for the new version.

 

By the way, I'm considering making a new version of the 70mm mix, so assuming that it turns out to be a worthwhile improvement, it would be cool to have it included on the next release.  ;)

 

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I'll see what I can do. I seriosly don't want to replace Luke's sabre in that scene, as it would be an incredible amount of work but I'll think about it. As to Vader's cockpit, I'll certainly try.

And it would be awesome to have an improved version of the 70mm mix. Maybe you could use the LFE chanel from the BD and thus have all the sources be lossless? But I don't know how bad the BD mix is.

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That was a great read Harmy. You deserve the fanfare.

Sometimes I forgot the immense amount of work you've done in such a short amount of time. We're all very thankful for it.

"Well here's a big bag of rock salt" - Patton Oswalt

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hairy_hen said:

The blue saber fix in the training on the falcon scene has some black flicker towards the hilt in several shots.

I noticed this black flickering near the bottom of the blade during the Falcon training scene a few years ago while watching the 2004 dvd.  If you look at the same scene in the GOUT, you'll see that the original effects did not have this error; it's a screwup caused by glitchy digital re-composites.  Accordingly, I think it would be a good idea to fix it for the new version. 

That flickering (which is caused by the rotating stick sometimes gets visible) does appear in the original, it's just not as clear and ugly as it is in the re-composited scenes in the SE. It may also be blurred in the GOUT by the DVNR, but it is there in the original films if you check other earlier transfers.

hairy_hen said: 

By the way, I'm considering making a new version of the 70mm mix, so assuming that it turns out to be a worthwhile improvement, it would be cool to have it included on the next release.  ;)

!! :) :)

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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Just read the article. That is some great stuff.  Congratulations.

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Awesome news guys (well sort of...)! Satanika just sent me the matte paintings from the Blu-Ray galery and there are some that I can use, like the original Mos Eisley overview or the original Falcon landing on Bespin background.

On the flip side, there is a lot left to be desired - no cantina matte, no Yavin base, no celebration soldiers and I could continue...

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hairy_hen said:By the way, I'm considering making a new version of the 70mm mix, so assuming that it turns out to be a worthwhile improvement, it would be cool to have it included on the next release.  ;) 

I'm assuming this new version would just be for Star Wars and not for the sequels, correct?  I haven't noticed a single problem with any of them but I'm just curious.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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Hi Harmy,

I first posted in the ESB thread after watching your edit and it was a great thrill.

I have now completed all 3 movies and just want to congratulate you again on a job well done!  Also happy to see your getting more recognition!

These films look beautiful.  I didn't miss ANY of the SE changes.  I had heard of the color-timing on the 2004 dvds but it didn't occur to me how much had changed until I saw your releases.

thank you so much for making this happen!

click here if lack of OOT got you down

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Thank you so much for fixing the hologram. It looks great. On that celebration soldiers,  would it work using the full gout shot then put just HD Han and Luke walking down the walkway.

Just a thought.  I do hope you reconsider and put back that star feild second shot of the Star Destroyer over tatooine.

Thanks to some members I got to watch Empire and really enjoyed it.

 

 

Troy 

looking for HDTV of the  Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.  Also HDTV of The Lord of the Rings trilogy

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Hi Harmy,

someone should get you a better computer. There should happen some fundraising at originaltrilogy.com. I would throw in some bucks! ;)

Since I enjoy your effort very much, I have to tell you the one thing, that throws me out, when I see the edit: The mattes.

The problem is: It's always visible when you use a still picture, because suddenly there is no more movement in the picture. I thought about it.. it's very hard to give a still image the feeling, that it's part of the moving film.. little movement would be needed, that is happening in the normal shots.. maybe more grain, but I don't know if that would help.

Sometimes I am not sure, if it's always for the best looking experience to go for "as much HD as possible".. maybe it would sometimes be better to use as much "moving picture" as possible, even if it is from lower resolution..

An example is the shot at Mos Eisley. It's very obvious that it's a still frame, because it has a lot less movement, than the shots before and after..

Maybe you could try playing with some "old movie" filter for afx. Do you have some of those? Just putting a bit of film jitter on it obviously with very small ammounts could help. For the subconcious eye its not just about the grain, it's always about this those tiny shakes and movements of the picture, that come from scanning original 35mm films. Obviously in completely digital movies, there are sometimes shoots like that, but that's what this editions shouldn't look like: digital! ;)

I don't know if others see this too. Maybe I recognize it more, since I watch it enlarged over a projector.

Otherwise: Good work, and I hope the recognition for you will be rising!

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As someone who saw these first run in theaters back from the 70's, I can honestly say those mattes have always looked like mattes.  Nice paintings... but mattes indeed.  The ones in Jedi were the worst in the theater in '83 and those should have been the best, right?  They were not.  I'm all for the old school, but even Albert Whitlock would say those mattes weren't great to begin with.
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You don't need an "old movie effect" in AfterEffects to make the image look less still. Just use the "wiggle" expression to give it a bit of shake, and some animated grain and you're good.

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awesome, awesome work harmy.

if you would like a little constructive advice,

when the leia hologram first appears after luke says "were you on a star cruiser or..." she looked a little too blue.

everything else made my heart beat like a drum...well done!!  can't wait

by the way is the hologram color corrected or rotoscoped gout?

take all the time you need.  no matter what the release date is it's going to be better than lucas's which is probably the 12th of NEVER.

"I will laugh my ass off a hundred years from now when the only version of STARWARS people remember are harmys despecialized editions.  They will project it on a 20' by 40' screen with perfect quality."

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It's GOUT. They altered the placement of the hologram and the beam is very different, so simple colour correction wouldn't have brought it close enough.

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Hi! A new user here, though I've been visiting this website from time to time. This time I came across it when googling on info about the blu-ray release. I've been a fan of the original Star Wars movies since I was a kid, and thus I was very happy when I found your edits. (and dark_jedi's, not to mention everyone who has worked on the audio too.)

First off, I want to thank you SO much for doing this. I have made similar projects myself, so I know how insanely time-consuming and exhausting it can be. I've watched SW despecialized so far, and I'll put it like this: From now on I'll deny ever seeing a so called Special Edition of any SW movie. This is the definitive versions. This is what they should look like!

Now, I haven't been reading through all pages of this thread yet, but I read you're currently working on a v1.2 so I would just like to give you some suggestions on a couple things to change in the new version. (Of course with all respect for you and the time it takes to do these things.)

I recently read about the Senator Theatre screening of the original SW, on this site: http://savestarwars.com/technicoloribscreening.html
I thought maybe you used these photos as a reference to some scenes? Either way, one photo in particular caught my interest and it was Luke watching the sunset.

This is a screenshot from your currently available version:

Edited to look more like in the cinema it would be something like this:

So that's the first idea. Then I have some ideas on color correction "issues" I noticed when watching the movie.

A death star corridor scene:

Same corridor later in the movie:

Compared, the second screenshot looks yellow-tinted. Here's another example, where it's even more apparent:

The stormtrooper armors looks yellow here yet just a moment later, white:

Last but not least, I thought about this thing too. In this scene, the shadows are blue-colored while everything around them is not:

Once again, thank you so much for all your work and effort.