Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 34

My second post here. Just want to say that I'm blown away by these Despecialized Editions. I was a huge Star Wars fan growing up, but the Special Editions and Prequels killed my enthusiasm for the franchise. As a television editor, the out-of-place CG monstrosities added to the original films really distracted me.

Not anymore. I could go on about all the details I love in Harmy's cut, or the small parts that still bother me a bit, but that would be missing the point. These are now my go-to copies for when I just want to watch and enjoy the trilogy again. Thank you, Harmy. Can't wait for Jedi to complete the collection!

The issues you bring up are so minor, that I wouldn't be doing anything about them even if I was to make a new version. In fact I'm not even sure they are actual issues (005, msycamore?).

Like I said, I find that flaw in color (only from the 2004 DVD version, not found on any previous sources that I have) next to C-3PO, to be very noticeable and very distracting. That is one of the major flaws that makes me want to take that 2004 DVD and throw it on the train tracks to be pulverized. You wonderfully fixed all the others, I'm just kind of curious why you left that one when lifting that scene from the same sources you so marvelously lifted the Mos Eisley scenes, or Ben's hut, would put it back to how it should be.

You have done marvelous work - work I do not have the time or Talent to do. But some things just stand out and that green blob takes me out of the film more than any of GL's 1977 era production gaffs do.

I really don't care about what version of Tatooine is seen, but I wanted to point out that the one doesn't match the others.

Glad to hear what soundtrack that is. It is very similar in many ways to the 1977 stereo - certain missing lines and such. That is actually the first time I have ever heard the 6 track version.

You have created a version of this film that I can actually watch and enjoy and not want to yank the disc out of the player and destroy it. Thank you. It is practically perfect.

I know I haven't commented on this thread before, but just watched this and loved it! I can't really imagine a reconstruction getting better than this. Perhaps the most awe-inspiring shot was the unaltered, non-DVNR'ed pass-through of Mos Eisley. It looked slightly more contrasted to me than I was used to but it was nice seeing no smearing, no heavy dupe grain, and no CGI additions. To me, all the footage blended rather seamlessly. To be honest, the only thing I actually noticed was your re-comp of the Millenium Falcon from the Technicolor Screening Picture, but it didn't bother me so much. If there were any alterations from the 1977 Cut, I didn't notice them.

The 720p video was great, with true colors and good contrast. As for the audio, all of them sound fantastic for what it's worth.

In any case, Harmy, thank you so much for putting all your work into this one! For the moment, this is definitely my"go-to" version for Star Wars!

Harmy said:

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound so defensive. But I'm just not seeing it. The Tatooine matte doesn't seem any different from the original and I don't see any green blob in the scene you mention, it looks exactly the same as the original to me (save for the stronger saturation, which is present throughout the whole edit, because GOUT is very undersaturated).

Here are both shots in comparison:...I really don't see much difference. The matte painting is definitely the same as the original and I don't see any green area in the other shot. Or did you mean a different one?

It is your hard work, you have every right to be defensive.

You are right about the planet shot. I guess I just caught the color difference - it's darker than the other instances.

But if you watch The LD Capture (I believe mine is the TR-47) and the GOUT and pay attention to the last frames when C-3PO raises his arm and the sand underneath is connected, it is very obvious that there is color change in the 2004 DVD and not the others. They did some weird things in their color correcting and this is one place where they really screwed it up. It's obvious from the nature of the glitch that they had some sort of selection to color correct C-3PO and didn't omit the area of sand under his arm. It is very obvious on my Sony LCD HDTV. It looks almost looks like a patch of grass.

Stinky lost the chipmunk and added a goggle cat?

My whole world is crashing down around me.

Has anyone else noticed a glitch during the Death Star battle?  It only lasts for one frame, so it's not really a big deal, but it's a band of data that looks kind of like color bars/test patterns towards the bottom of the frame.  It's not actually at the bottom of the tv screen, but the bottom of the actual film image.  Just curious if it's a problem with the project or just a corrupt bit of data in my copy of the files.  I've burned two copies & both have the exact same glitch.  Apologies for the crappy pics, I don't know how to make screenshots, so I just took pictures of my tv.  But it at least lets you see what I'm talking about.  (it's the shot of vader & co. zooming into the trench for the first time, chasing the y-wings)

Sorry Rob, but that is not nitpicking, that looks bad, and I would mention that to, and I surely do not like that(I have not watched the movie yet myself, but Harmy already verified that it is there) because it surely is not on any of the worked from source files, that probably is an encode error or something, but really should be fixed, but that is 100% Harmy's call, not ours.

Did I nitpick?  Show me where I nitpicked.  I simply asked about a glitch I noticed & whether it was in the master file or just an error in my copy of the file (in which case I might've tried downloading it again).  I even specifically stated that it wasn't a big deal (it lasts for literally one frame!).  Go back a page or two & you'll find me praising this work to high Heaven, which it (& Harmy) rightfully deserves.

Get over it.

Wait, shouldn't you want us to be more gay?...  ;)

Harmy said:

it's really minor.

So this is staying then?

No one is willing to help me out? :(

I think we all want the same thing - the perfect copy of the original original trilogy to watch. Each of us has our own level of expectations and when they are not met, in however small a way, it detracts from our experience. The "nitpicking" here pales in comparison to what we all have to say about what Lucasfilm has given us to work with.

As for what I keep seeing (and to put this in perspective I've seen it on all 3 of the TV's I've had since the 2004 DVD came out - each one has been color adjusted to match the THX setting configuration test), I don't have a screen capture utility on this PC, so I had to use my camera. The upper image is from your version. The lower image is from the Rebellion Collection GOUT. I color corrected the sand in the GOUT to match your version along the left side and then upped the saturation. This is more extreme than what I usually see, but I think it gets across how annoying I find it.

Harmy said:

But I never noticed it till now and it's really minor.

Same. I had to watch a coupla times while looking for it to even notice. Its there for one frame on the Death Star's surface while your focus is (meant to be) on the TIE fighters.

I'm not worried about it. I'd suggest to anyone truly bothered about it to fix it themselves or go elsewhere. Who knows? There might be a version 2.0 someday but this small glitch certainly doesn't necessitate one.

If it is an error on the source, then I would not bother, but if it is an error from encoding or something else I did(the creator) hell yea it should be fixed, but that is the way I am, not sure how Harmy is, because even if I didn't fix it, once it was brought to my attention by another member here, and then I confirmed it on my end, it would play on my mind, it would drive me nuts until I fixed it, even if I didn't release a new version, I would fix it, again, this is just how I work.