KoolGuy7 said:
Wait Despecialized TPM? What's wrong with it?
I'm not sure why anyone would want to watch that much Jar Jar especially with the great "mostly de-Jar Jared" edits by Q2, Seciors, and L8Wrtr. I watched the original recently for the first time in a long time and I don't plan on ever watching it again. Absolutely horrible.
stretch009 said:
KoolGuy7 said:
Wait Despecialized TPM? What's wrong with it?
I'm not sure why anyone would want to watch that much Jar Jar especially with the great "mostly de-Jar Jared" edits by Q2, Seciors, and L8Wrtr. I watched the original recently for the first time in a long time and I don't plan on ever watching it again. Absolutely horrible.
Amen to that !
Harmy: I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but do you have a list of changes (similar to Adywan's list) for DeEd v2.0?
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Hi Harmy
I found the films on a torrent search website. They are described as follows (Empire and Jedi are similar):
All credit goes to Harmy http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-AVCHD-DVD9-and-NTSC-DVD5-AVAILABLE-see-1st-post/topic/12713/ Star Wars in HD without the bullshit tampering George Lucas did to the DVD and Bluray release.
Edited. Sorry.
Why exactly are you putting this here? There should be no such direct links on this site, please take it down!!!
@AnctuFaalb: There's no list but all the changes are documented here: http://uloz.to/xCAaaEE/compar-gallery-rar
Harmy said:
Why exactly are you putting this here? There should be no such direct links on this site, please take it down!!!
@AnctuFaalb: There's no list but all the changes are documented here: http://uloz.to/xCAaaEE/compar-gallery-rar
Thanks, Harmy!
I noticed that you re-inserted several "errors" (e.g., those vertical lines). Do you plan on re-inserting the infamous burn marks?
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AntcuFaalb said: Do you plan on re-inserting the infamous burn marks?
I hope not. I can't stand those burn marks. The JSC doesn't have them.
Chewtobacca said:
AntcuFaalb said: Do you plan on re-inserting the infamous burn marks?
I hope not. I can't stand those burn marks. The JSC doesn't have them.
True, but they were there during the theatrical run.
Harmy: How do you decide which "errors" to re-insert?
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AntcuFaalb said: True, but they were there during the theatrical run.
That's interesting, but I'm not sure that we can say with certainty that they were there for all prints.
I don't think they were, because they're missing in some pre-dvnr releases, so I'll be keeping them out.
Harmy said:
I don't think they were, because they're missing in some pre-dvnr releases, so I'll be keeping them out.
The pre-DVNR (e.g., JSC) home video releases used a different IP. However, some (e.g., Technidisc SWE) did not.
Please read: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Tantives-Orange-Items-Thread-other-unintended-objects/topic/13355/
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I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!
—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3
Also, this page is pretty convincing in demonstrating that the burn marks were present in the theatrical run.
For the record: Yes, they're in PS78, as well.
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Harmy, how is work progressing on V2.1 I know you are busy with everything you have going on, just curious?
Not much new. I finally got a little work done on it today and hope to get lots more done this weekend but I said the same two weeks ago and didn't manage to do squat, so you know...
Like gets in the way... ... LOL.
Harmy: I know you're busy, but did you check out any of the websites that I linked to in my previous post(s)?
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I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!
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Yeah, I did. I'm still not gonna put the burn marks back; If there was an IP that didn't have them, then they can't be on the o-neg, can they?
Harmy said:
Yeah, I did. I'm still not gonna put the burn marks back; If there was an IP that didn't have them, then they can't be on the o-neg, can they?
That's correct.
My mistake: I thought you were trying to match the theatrical presentation, not the negative.
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Well, in a way you're right but then those burn marks are really ugly, in-your-face kind of thing, so if they weren't on the o-neg, it's enough of a justification for me to leave them out. The other similar things I did reinstate were mostly either in camera (like overexposure and stuff) or compositing mistakes (like that shot of Luke in x-wing) and were an inherent part of the VFX. Those burnmarks seem to be due to someone not being very careful with one of the IPs.
Harmy said:
Well, in a way you're right but then those burn marks are really ugly, in-your-face kind of thing, so if they weren't on the o-neg, it's enough of a justification for me to leave them out. The other similar things I did reinstate were mostly either in camera (like overexposure and stuff) or compositing mistakes (like that shot of Luke in x-wing) and were an inherent part of the VFX. Those burnmarks seem to be due to someone not being very careful with one of the IPs.
I understand and agree with your decision to keep them out.
Question: After looking at the comparison gallery, I noticed that you restored many of the matte outlines. Were there any that you chose to not restore?
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Since the burn marks aren't a by-product of the film making process, but accidentally inserted through some sort of mishandling after the film was complete, I think a proper restoration of the film would remove them. So I agree with Harmy's decision to not insert them.
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AntcuFaalb said:
Question: After looking at the comparison gallery, I noticed that you restored many of the matte outlines. Were there any that you chose to not restore?
Well, yeah, in a few cases where they were very barely noticeable in the original and restoring them would present a huge drop in quality.
Harmy said:
AntcuFaalb said:
Question: After looking at the comparison gallery, I noticed that you restored many of the matte outlines. Were there any that you chose to not restore?
Well, yeah, in a few cases where they were very barely noticeable in the original and restoring them would present a huge drop in quality.
Makes sense. Thanks for answering my pestering questions!
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I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!
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No problem :-)
Harmy,
Sorry for the wall of text.
I was fortunate enough to see Star Wars in the theater during it's original run. Darth Vader's first appearance is burned into my memory, and the fear evoked by the sound of his breathing that first time in the theater is something I will never forget. When it was announced that it would be on HBO, I couldn't have been more excited. I did nothing but watch it every time it was on for the first weeks it was available. I'm sure I watched it dozens and dozens of times. I had all of the original toys and spent endless hours playing Star Wars with my friends.
When they announced the special edition I was thrilled. No more re-recorded VHS tapes. Finally a high quality home viewing experience.
I didn't even make it through a single viewing. I wasn't quite sure what I was watching, I just knew that it wasn't Star Wars.
At that moment my fandom died. I tried to rekindle it when the prequels were announced, but my excitement died an even harder death for the obvious reasons.
Since that time, the only enjoyment I've gathered from the Star Wars universe were the prequel deconstructions by RedLetterMedia. I've watched them over and over. Even though they're a critique on everything that went wrong with the prequels, it's easy to feel the genuine passion for the original films and characters underlying the disdain for Episodes 1-3. Those reviews let me know that deep down inside my fandom was still alive, though dormant.
I was led to your project by a chance post in a completely unrelated forum. I've spent the last few weeks reading every single post in this 275 page thread. Even though I've come so late to the game, reading through the posts made me feel a part of it. I felt the joy when the first version was completed, the pain of the problems and personality conflicts. Above all I felt and was infected by the surge of optimism and excitement everyone felt. If my passion for Star Wars was a tiny ember, this thread has fanned it back to a raging flame (and no, that's not a reference to Rob...... or was it?)
I registered just to offer my most sincere gratitude. The thousands of hours that you've spent couldn't have been more valuable to me and I'm sure many others like me.
While I'm sure there are many who appreciate your effort for it's value to cinematic history, to me your effort is far more personal. All your time, effort, and frustration have not only served to resurrect a film, they've effectively served to rebuild a precious part of my childhood. What were once simple memories, rapidly fading, are now a reality that I can share with all five of my own children.
Due to the economy and various other factors, I'm going through quite a difficult time. The anticipation of watching the despecialized Trilogy is a rare bright moment in a very dark time in my life.
Please understand that it's not my intent to be over-dramatic. Believe me when I say that you have literally given me back a part of my life I had thought long lost. It's impossible to overstate the value of this great gift at this particular time in my life.
Having read the thread, I know it has at times been hard. At the risk of being completely over the top corny, please know that your work has brought New Hope to me. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Thanks also to You_Too, 005, Puggo, h_h, msycamore, catbus, chewtobacca, zombie, dark_jedi, adywan, -1, and especially mverta for all the technical assistance. Thank you also to the many others who contributed feedback or otherwise assisted Harmy with his efforts even if it was mostly comic relief (I'm looking at you, Frink & Stinky). I know I'm forgetting people, and there are surely some I don't know about. Just understand that if you've contributed in any way I consider myself in your debt.
Harmy,
THANK YOU.