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This film was inherently a failure. The very basic rule is that you do not meddle with OT main characters. On top of that, you simply cannot do a Han Solo film without Harrison Ford. And even if they used a time machine to make Ford young again, the film would still suck as the very basic rule is broken.

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imperialscum said:

This film was inherently a failure. The very basic rule is that you do not meddle with OT main characters. On top of that, you simply cannot do a Han Solo film without Harrison Ford. And even if they used a time machine to make Ford young again, the film would still suck as the very basic rule is broken.

The only thing that is inherently wrong with this film is that it’s a story that doesn’t need to be told. However, that doesn’t mean it can’t be told well.

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imperialscum said:

This film was inherently a failure. The very basic rule is that you do not meddle with OT main characters. On top of that, you simply cannot do a Han Solo film without Harrison Ford. And even if they used a time machine to make Ford young again, the film would still suck as the very basic rule is broken.

You’ve read the script? Spill! 😉

Where were you in '77?

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The difference between McGregor playing Obi-Wan and this is that he was playing Obi-Wan at a totally different age from when Alec Guiness played him. So it wasn’t really the same role at all. Even still, he was a perfect fit in that his appearance, voice, and mannerisms were all uncannily similar to Guiness. On the other hand, we’ve seen Han at a younger age, not much older than the age this new guy will be playing him. So we will all be doing a lot more conscious comparisons to Ford’s performance. We’ll have to believe not just that this guy will grow into Ford, but that he is Ford. Which is why I still think a doppelganger like Ingruber was the way to go.

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Density said:

The difference between McGregor playing Obi-Wan and this is that he was playing Obi-Wan at a totally different age from when Alec Guiness played him. So it wasn’t really the same role at all. Even still, he was a perfect fit in that his appearance, voice, and mannerisms were all uncannily similar to Guiness. On the other hand, we’ve seen Han at a younger age, not much older than the age this new guy will be playing him.

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Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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TV’s Frink said:

Density said:

HansiG said:

If this is handled well, it could end up great. Tarantino movie in space (without the violence, obviously). If it’s not, wel…

Tarantino movie without violence? That’s like a David Lynch movie that makes sense.

The Elephant Man, Blue Velvet, and The Straight Story all exist, thus your joke ultimately fails.

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imperialscum said:

This film was inherently a failure. The very basic rule is that you do not meddle with OT main characters. On top of that, you simply cannot do a Han Solo film without Harrison Ford. And even if they used a time machine to make Ford young again, the film would still suck as the very basic rule is broken.

Look, I don’t have any interest in this film, but that’s just a silly thing to say.
Most of the people I talk to, even those who loathe the prequels, say Ewan McGregor did an excellent job as Obi-Wan, so why can’t this guy give a younger Han the same treatment?
Last time I checked, Obi-Wan was “an OT main character”.

Now if he is playing Han at roughly the same age he was meant to be in ANH, then I’d be very skeptical, but as for now we don’t know a whole lot about the project.
If it bothers you so greatly just skip it like me, nobody is forcing you to watch it.

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I still hold by back what I said on the first page of this thread. As of now, I have no doubt it could be a great film, given the talented writing and direction is involved. The biggest problem is truly will be whether the new actor (now we believe to be Alden Ehrenreich) can portray a convincing Han Solo. It’s given Han Solo isn’t entirely Harrison Ford. I trust Kasdan to keep Han in character given his experience writing for him.

But I definitely feel it is possible to do act well as a strong character and at the same time focus on doing an impression down to the smallest of details. The greatest example of this was in The Theory Of Everything. Now yes, Eddie Redmayne did have a bit of an advantage appearence-wise, especially since he could wear the signature Hawking glasses. But damn, his impersonation in that film has to go down as one of the best, most uncanny impersonations of real-life person. His mannerisms were to perfection, and yet it became second nature to a performance of a well-developed portrayal of Stephen Hawking.

The thing with Ingruber is truly he has the impersonation abilities but not the acting ability to make you forget it’s an impersonation. I believe Ehrenreich might be able to pull it off, I just haven’t seen enough of him to know whether he can pull off such a feat.

Anyhow, I just rewatched the Jump Street films this past week and damn I love those films. I’m still excited to see what they do with Han Solo.

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I think the guy is talented and at least somewhat resembles Ford. Some of the names being thrown around absolutely baffled me.

I’m much more concerned with what the story is going to be. I, like most, think this is a film that really doesn’t need to be made. However, if it’s done right, it could be interesting. I hope it’s not just a throwaway adventure that has no bearing on the character’s development.

As the new beginning of Solo’s character arc, they really need to do something to add to the character’s complexity, and not let it just be a cash grab adventure of the same old Han Solo from ANH.

I would prefer they do some story that involves telling us WHY he is so self centered in ANH. Why he shuts people out and doesn’t really care about anyone but he and chewie. A story like that would I think actually add something to the character and make the whole film not completely pointless.

I’m intrigued to see what they come up with. They’ve definitely got a lot of talent involved so I hope it turns out well.

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Will young Han Solo encounter a young Lando Calrissian ?! If so, who will play young Lando ?..

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Ryan-SWI said:

imperialscum said:

This film was inherently a failure. The very basic rule is that you do not meddle with OT main characters. On top of that, you simply cannot do a Han Solo film without Harrison Ford. And even if they used a time machine to make Ford young again, the film would still suck as the very basic rule is broken.

Look, I don’t have any interest in this film, but that’s just a silly thing to say.
Most of the people I talk to, even those who loathe the prequels, say Ewan McGregor did an excellent job as Obi-Wan, so why can’t this guy give a younger Han the same treatment?
Last time I checked, Obi-Wan was “an OT main character”.

There is a huge difference between a few seconds appearance (which I don’t mind) and a prequel being entirely about the character…

If it bothers you so greatly just skip it like me, nobody is forcing you to watch it.

I probably will skip it. Nevertheless, I can give my opinion on this.

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imperialscum said:

There is a huge difference between a few seconds appearance (which I don’t mind) and a prequel being entirely about the character…

If by “a few seconds” you mean three whole movies, then sure… A few seconds…

I probably will skip it. Nevertheless, I can give my opinion on this.

You can, but you can’t give an informed opinion on the entire film if you don’t see it, just make educated guesses at best.

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Ryan-SWI said:

imperialscum said:
I probably will skip it. Nevertheless, I can give my opinion on this.

You can, but you can’t give an informed opinion on the entire film if you don’t see it, just make educated guesses at best.

The two are one in the same for him.

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Ryan-SWI said:

imperialscum said:

There is a huge difference between a few seconds appearance (which I don’t mind) and a prequel being entirely about the character…

If by “a few seconds” you mean three whole movies, then sure… A few seconds…

I thought you meant TFA appearance. As for PT, yes McGregor did a fine job with acting. However, that unfortunately doesn’t change anything for me. I would by far prefer Obi-Wan’s backstory (and the whole OT backstory) to be left alone.

In general, prequel to any film is inherently doomed to fail as it competes with an imagination of every person that saw the original film.

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imperialscum said:

In general, prequel to any film is inherently doomed to fail as it competes with an imagination of every person that saw the original film.

The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly and The Godfather 2 say hi.

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And before you say anything The God Father 2 had multiple flashbacks so let’s not even.