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Video Collector said:

I sat down to watch version 0.5 yesterday and was again awed by the seamlessness of the presentation. Having never seen the US version in its entirety before I found it a fresh take on the original film, and the editing tightened up the narrative quite a bit. I enjoyed it immensely, and a welcome change to the Return of Godzilla international version I’ve been accustomed to until now.

On the tech side, these are the things I noticed:

  • The wobble on the opening credits. Would be nice to have that stabilised.
  • Was there an on-screen caption when the sub first appears? Looks like there was a square patch on the bottom part of the screen. (There was one more instance of a noticeable patch, but I can’t remember where I saw it.)
  • The upscaling of the US footage was very good, but I wonder if it couldn’t do with a grain layer overlay to make it appear sharper and better match the surrounding footage. I can only imagine the difference becoming even more pronounced when you start using the Kraken Blu as source material.

Still, a stellar presentation and if it wasn’t for the station bug this would be just fine as it is. I can only imagine what the final full HD version will be like.

I might try stabilizing the credits a bit for the full HD version. Normally I don’t mind a bit of wobble, but there is a bit much for my taste. Ordinarily I’d worry about losing information on the edges, but in this case I think it’s what George C. Scott would call modest and acceptable casualties.

And there was a caption on the wide shot of the sub; that shot’s been frustrating me too. I think the white from the caption sort of bleeds a little and illuminates the rest of the image slightly, which is why there’s a hiccup in the brightness when it appears that makes the masking really obvious. I might just replace that shot entirely with the MHD, since I can’t seem to get around that. I had to do the same for one shot during the montage of military ships and aircraft. Thankfully, both of these shots are low enough in fine details anyway (the latter being stock footage) that it shouldn’t be too noticeable.

If you do remember where that other patch was, do let me know. I adjusted some of them for v0.6 after watching a test render on my TV and noticing that a few of them were far more obvious on that screen than they were on my laptop. I think the main ones I had to touch up were the one covering the caption when the Soviet ambassador arrives, the one when the Soviet sailor asks the colonel what he’s doing when he’s using the satellite control panel, and the one over the first establishing shot at Mt. Mihara when Ken goes to see the geologist Minami.

The grain overlay is a good idea; I’ll have to look into that. I don’t think the 720p to 1080p upgrade is going to be a revelation as far as image detail goes, considering that it’s a Toho transfer, but there might be some more visible grain, so it would make sense to try and adjust the image on the MHD footage to match.

And finally, I have to agree on the editing job. New World’s editing does really help the pace, and the work done on the initial test of the frequency generator is especially brilliant. Thanks to some quicker cuts and a shot taken from Godzilla’s second fight with the Super X, Godzilla goes from a lethargic, vaguely dangerous large animal who happens to get distracted by a maser tank to an aggressive, menacing creature who would’ve completely obliterated the lab if the tank had fired a moment later. This project has really given me a strong appreciation for what New World did with the original version.

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Yes, watching things on an actual TV reveals much that a PC monitor doesn’t. I watched v0.5 on my 42" plasma and will be putting v0.6 through its paces sometime this week.

As a small token of my appreciation for the work that has been done here, I have created two retro-style covers for the project. I may do a label too, so anyone who burns an actual BD of this can pimp it 😃


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God Save Pop Punk said:

Well, v0.6 is done. The MEGA upload is in the home stretch; after that’s done I’ll upload it to MediaFire, update the OP and then send the links around.

I’ve got it downloaded and I’ll take a look tonight. When you get ready to start your other projects let me know. I’m sure we can get some of the resources you may need to work with.

Thanks for keeping me in the loop. It is most appreciated.

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ray_afraid said:

Wow! I like the black cover! Reminds me of the VHS I used to rent back in the late 80’s!
I got the 0.5 version and I guess I’ll stick with that until the Kraken footage is added. Unless the change to 0.6 is drastic.
Is it?

I don’t know about drastic, but there are a few minor changes that make a considerable difference to me. If you look at the first post it should summarize it pretty well.

And Video Collector, I know I gushed to you about these covers already via PM but it bears repeating publicly: I love these covers (the black one especially) and it’s really flattering to me that you took the time to make them. The positive response to this project means a lot, but this is really something else. Thank you.

EDIT: Also, I imagine some of you have already seen this thread, but I’m working on a similar project to recreate the AIP version of Destroy All Monsters, so feel free to check that out if you like.

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Here’s the last cover (unless I get inspired by something else down the line). I will do labels to match them all too.
GSPP will be making these available with the finished project, or you can PM me for the links.

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VC, the last one is fricking awesome. Thanks for sharing.

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Very cool. I may wait for the final version, but I am very excited about this project!

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My apologies for a link with no explanation - was half asleep posting. I was interested to see that the MonstersHD version was a workprint rather than the final product, and that page lists the differences.

Preferred Saga:
1/2: Hal9000
3: L8wrtr
4/5: Adywan
6-9: Hal9000

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I noticed the red/orange tint thing - that’s actually because the US version of that scene uses several shots from other parts of the original movie. I’ll probably correct that in the 1080p version using a VHS rip for reference.

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God Save Pop Punk said:

I noticed the red/orange tint thing - that’s actually because the US version of that scene uses several shots from other parts of the original movie. I’ll probably correct that in the 1080p version using a VHS rip for reference.

I have the Anchor Bay 1997 SP mode VHS version of the US release.

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I’ve actually got a VHS rip that I used as a reference for the timing of the subtitles; I don’t know which release it’s taken from but it’s one of the US releases. I’ve also got a rip of the Australian VHS that Tamura over on TK sent me; turns out that has the theatrical subtitles, so those will be in the 1080p version!

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Glad you’re liking the reviews! I’ll most likely rip/remux the Blu-ray as soon as I get it (tomorrow or the day after, according to Amazon), but I probably won’t start work in earnest until after Shin Godzilla comes out - I’ve got a lot on my plate until then between classes, my new job and the binge/reviews.

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I literally have been searching forever for a decent copy of Godzilla 1985. I grew up watching this movie and always remembered the Bambi meets Godzilla intro. I was about to plunk down near $100 for a vhs copy when I found this thread. Words cannot express my gratitude towards the restoration and love being given this movie. Would anyone be gracious enough to pm me the links for this. Many thanks in advance.

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This is from the Red Menace Tumblr:

RED MENACE Tumblr said:
Godzilla 1985 - 1080p version update

I’ve begun working on the 1080p version of Godzilla 1985. I’ve ripped the uncompressed video track from the Kraken Blu-ray of The Return of Godzilla and added it to the project file, where I’ve boosted the contrast and performed a bit of white balance adjustment to alleviate the mediocre black levels and slight green tint of the Toho transfer. From here, I’ll be approaching the rest of the reconstruction in a slightly more organized fashion than I did for the 720p version, making a few separate passes over the project:

The first pass will consist of synchronizing the 1080p video with the existing 720p version. I’ve already begun this step; it’s a lot easier having already done it once, and I’ve gotten through the scene of Maki and Okumura being rescued from the fishing boat, which probably took me less than an hour. (I may also replace the stock footage from Godzilla, King of the Monsters! using the Criterion transfer.)
The second pass will consist of re-working the “patches” from the Monsters HD transfer that I used to cover various titles, captions and location supers in the Japanese version. This will mean re-aligning some of them and adjusting the colors somewhat, since unlike the 720p version I’ve actually done a spot of color correction on the Japanese source.
The third pass will be completely re-doing the subtitles on the Russian dialogue. I’ll be using a rip of the Australian VHS that contains the original theatrical subtitles as a source and as a reference for the position and timing. (I’ll also be using similar means to more accurately recreate the “100 MILES SOUTH OF TOKYO” location super.)
The final step will be applying film grain to the entire project, which will hopefully lend some consistency to the visuals as the video switches between SD and HD sources. This won’t be a cheap, default video effect; I’ll be using the same stock 35mm grain plate I used on my Destroy All Monsters project.

After that, I’ll probably be making two separate renders of the finished project. One will be an MP4 file in the original aspect ratio that’s encoded at a somewhat lower bitrate to keep the file size down (basically designed for convenience), while the other will be an MKV file encoded at a similar bitrate to the original Blu-ray source, using the appropriate codecs and dimensions for Blu-ray burning (I’ll probably include chapter stops as well if I can figure out how to add them).

I’ll keep you guys posted on my progress!

Sounds great!

Ray’s Lounge
Biggs in ANH edit idea
ROTJ opening edit idea

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I had a thought about the “patches” for location text etc. In those instances where it is very difficult to get a seamless match (the submarine establishing shot for instance), maybe you could do a split across the entire frame, which would be less noticeable than a “blob” in the middle? Failing that, substituting the entire shot with one from the MonstersHD source may be the least distracting option.

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I am excited to see how this turns out.

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Video Collector said:

I had a thought about the “patches” for location text etc. In those instances where it is very difficult to get a seamless match (the submarine establishing shot for instance), maybe you could do a split across the entire frame, which would be less noticeable than a “blob” in the middle? Failing that, substituting the entire shot with one from the MonstersHD source may be the least distracting option.

These are both strategies I’ve been considering. I’ve gone ahead and replaced the entire submarine shot, since that one’s got no fine detail to speak of and wouldn’t really suffer for the lower resolution.

The “split across the frame” method is something I’ve been considering for the establishing shot of the bridge on the fishing boat at the beginning - The problem with that shot is that I can reasonably match the grey of the boat, or the red painted stripe that passes through the patched area, but seemingly not both at once.

If there are any other egregious patches, I’d love the feedback. I’m going to be re-doing all of them anyway, since I’m actually color-correcting the Japanese source a little bit this time, so it would be nice to know which ones to really look out for.

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The first pass is done! Now it’s on to adjusting the patches, adding the subtitles and applying a grain layer.