Get ready for "Star Wars - Shroud of the Sith", a radical fan edit of "The Phantom Menace" — Page 5

Here’s another little segment featuring the Neimoidians and Amidala. There is a siren bit at the beginning that just sort of cuts in. When cutting this segment, somehow the initial siren bit was cut out, so just use your imagination there. But the siren I’ve added into that beginning sequence is an old WWII siren that sounded cool. I created an ambient “space engine” track to fill some of the silence of that scene, and the WWII siren is just icing on the cake. Hopefully you guys like it.

Also worth noting the background music has been replaced with a track from a Star Wars game. I feel this track conveys the tone I’m going for in a much better way.

As for the Neimoidian/Amidala interaction, I added a vocal effect to Amidala’s transmission that I thought sounded interesting. You’ll notice it right away, and I think it’s a great improvement on the original. I’ll probably re-record the Neimoidians in this scene (there are a few moments where I think I got a little too close to the microphone), but this is essentially how they’ll sound.

Here’s the clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ9X9CT6EwQ&feature=youtu.be

Great work with the dub’s and the color correction. I really like what I’m seeing.
However, I found the siren in the in the scene very distracting. Maybe if you used a siren similar to the one used in A New Hope would work better. Just a suggestion…

I love the siren.

Kanemedhurst said:

I just don’t know about this child Queen idea. If Padme isn’t the queen, wouldn’t keeping the Queen’s voice the same be a good idea to make sure we can tell them apart?

It’s “child Queen”, not “Queen’s child”.

MalàStrana said:

Kanemedhurst said:

I just don’t know about this child Queen idea. If Padme isn’t the queen, wouldn’t keeping the Queen’s voice the same be a good idea to make sure we can tell them apart?

It’s “child Queen”, not “Queen’s child”.

Yes, this. I wasn’t sure what the question was about at first. But yea, Padme is the queen, referred to by the Neimoidians as the “child queen” as a way of not taking her seriously.

Karl Katarn said:

Great work with the dub’s and the color correction. I really like what I’m seeing.
However, I found the siren in the in the scene very distracting. Maybe if you used a siren similar to the one used in A New Hope would work better. Just a suggestion…

I’ll probably quiet the siren a bit in the final mix, but I like the siren too much not to use it. The one used in New Hope was an Empire siren, so I wanted to use a different siren for the Federation, so it’s not just more of the same thing.

Any updates?

Hey sorry guys, I’ve actually been working on a film set for the last couple of weeks, so I’ve been a bit mia.

However, I have re-encoded the film with some slight tweaks in the grading, to get rid of a slightly greenish tint in some of the scenes. I probably jumped the gun a bit with the trailer release, but oh well.

I’ve recorded more of the Neimoidian voices, and I’ve gone through and fixed some of the sound mixing issues I’ve been having with the new music pieces.

I’ll have more to show for it when I get back into town later this week 😃

So, as I’m recording Jar-Jar’s new voice and running into a few issues syncing the voice to the lip movements, a thought dawns on me…

What if Jar-Jar begins in the film as a Gungan who knows very little English, but slowly starts picking it up in pieces here and there over the course of the film, eventually ending in his most powerful line(s) to the Queen: “Gungans won’t go down without a fight. We are warriors…and we share the same enemy now, don’t we?”

Story-wise, this would show Jar-Jar as an intelligent creature (giving Qui-Gon’s statement about “the ability to speak does not make you intelligent” an extra layer of depth, as Jar-Jar’s ability to speak is now one of his defining characteristics), it would give him more of an evolving character arc, and set-up his eventual role as a Senator (which would now make a lot more sense as Jar-Jar being the sort of bilingual intermediary between the Gungans and the Naboo). Plus, it would make his English bits that much more impactful when he says them in progressively greater clarity (like the bit I have of him in the trailer).

Editing-wise, dubbing him with Gungan babble in the scenes where his lips don’t match my lines will be much easier to convincingly accomplish.

What do you guys think?

Jp4195 said:

im looking forward to this, I cant seem to access the private vimeo clips however even though I used the correct password

There’s only one private vimeo clip: https://vimeo.com/158102839

And the password is “fanedit”.

If that doesn’t work, I really don’t know what to tell you. If it helps, that clip isn’t the final version and has since been updated here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1rS_q3E2-k&feature=youtu.be (this is the most current version I have online)

I think it’s an insanely unique idea, but you would have to make sure it’s a very gradual change. It also might be hard to pull off convincingly learning new words. One thing I would definitely recommend doing is watching videos of non-native speakers trying to speak English and trying to match their cadence. Often there will be pauses in the middle of a sentence to think out what they’re going to say next.

My current plan, after some consideration, is to interlace his alien speech with one or two English words here and there (most of which are spoken to him previously by QGJ and other humans, if I can manage it), with his first full sentence being “Gungans won’t go down without a fight” to the queen.

I think it could work really phenomenally if you can get it to play out the right way. It’s a tricky thing but I hope you can knock it out of the park. It would provide some really nice characterization to jar jar having him unable to speak. It would almost make him endearing. Kind of like groot in gotg.

I’m trying to keep the subtitles to a minimum, as the Neimoidians are already subtitled, so I don’t want to exhaust the viewer by reading subtitles throughout the whole thing. Luckily, most of Jar-Jar’s speaking parts take place in the first half of the film, and I’ve cut a few of them, so I think I can make it work.

But yea, he’s going to start off completely subbed, maybe taking breaks here and there for an English sentence that doesn’t make much sense (but you’ll know what he means). Honestly though, the way his character was handled in TPM kinda works well for what I’m doing. Most of the characters don’t pay him much attention (except for Padme, who he ends up speaking to at the end in full-on English) and sort of take his annoying lines at face value anyway.

Also, it’s worth noting that the Neimoidians WILL speak English to the “ambassadors” at the beginning of the film, but refuse to do so with the Queen (because they do not respect the “child Queen”). So Jar-Jar speaking English to her will also be a big character moment between the two that otherwise was not there.

I think it can work. And if not…well…I’ll go from there.

I’ll post some clips up here once I’ve gotten the voices where I want them.

Also, I considered making a separate topic for this, but I could use some help with the audio. Nothing drastic, but if anyone could help isolate the audio in a few scenes (specifically, isolate the vocals), I’d really appreciate it. PM me for details.

I’ve done it with great results in just about every instance I’ve needed to, but there are a few scenes that just haven’t been cooperating with my methods.

Also, I’m looking for a new music piece for the death of QGJ (as in, the moment he is stabbed). The piece I currently have is a bit too harsh for my liking. And the original music piece doesn’t fit well with the cuts I’ve made, and nothing I’ve attempted to use has really impacted me in the way I’m wanting from the scene.

I’m looking for something very subtle, but dark. Preferably something from John Williams or another Star Wars composer like Mark Griskey. The piece I’m looking for will be leading directly into the tribal drumming piece that plays over Obi-Wan’s emotional reaction, just for a frame of reference.

I’m totally excited for this one… the clips and color correction look great. It’s nice to see something different coming along