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What was George Lucas's worst decision with the Star Wars franchise? — Page 3

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Mithrandir said:

Unlike what most of people think, at times (and only at times) I believe he failed on looking and caring way too much what other people (the industry) was doing when he engaged the prequels. The chosen one thing was taken from Matrix. The Coliseum in AOTC from Gladiator. Qui Gonn came out of someone’s suggestion.

Matrix and TPM where released at the same time so it seems very unlikely.

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imperialscum said:

Mithrandir said:

Unlike what most of people think, at times (and only at times) I believe he failed on looking and caring way too much what other people (the industry) was doing when he engaged the prequels. The chosen one thing was taken from Matrix. The Coliseum in AOTC from Gladiator. Qui Gonn came out of someone’s suggestion.

Matrix and TPM where released at the same time so it seems very unlikely.

I just don’t buy for a second that Lucas or Steven Spielberg didn’t have virtual access to any blockbuster script before its release. At some point, any creative environment works as a social web.

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Mithrandir said:

imperialscum said:

Mithrandir said:

Unlike what most of people think, at times (and only at times) I believe he failed on looking and caring way too much what other people (the industry) was doing when he engaged the prequels. The chosen one thing was taken from Matrix. The Coliseum in AOTC from Gladiator. Qui Gonn came out of someone’s suggestion.

Matrix and TPM where released at the same time so it seems very unlikely.

I just don’t buy for a second that Lucas or Steven Spielberg didn’t have virtual access to any blockbuster script before its release. At some point, any creative environment works as a social web.

Unlikely. Even if Lucas did have the access to all scripts in film business, he probably would not have time to read many of them. This is especially unrealistic in light of your argument regarding “loosing market” to Matrix, as judging simply by the script it did not seem it would be very popular.

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Eh, Jesus did the whole “virgin birth” thing better anyway.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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ATMachine said:

Eh, Jesus did the whole “virgin birth” thing better anyway.

That’s the funniest part of the assertion that The Chosen One thing was somehow stolen from The Matrix.

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TV’s Frink said:

ATMachine said:

Eh, Jesus did the whole “virgin birth” thing better anyway.

That’s the funniest part of the assertion that The Chosen One thing was somehow stolen from The Matrix.

Quite so, Mr. Olié.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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Of all the bad things Lucas has done over the years, at least he didn’t tastelessly CGI in long-dead actors into his movies.

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generalfrevious said:

Of all the bad things Lucas has done over the years, at least he didn’t tastelessly CGI in long-dead actors into his movies.

He only erased the long dead Sebastian Shaw as Anakin’s ghost, and otherwise altered a film whose director has been dead since 1987. 😉

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Where were you in '77?

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ray_afraid said:

There is nothing wrong with re-creating a character whom the original actor sold his likeness for.

And whose estate gave their blessing.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Maybe he’s talking about a porn parody we haven’t heard about yet.

Rogue XXX? And Moroff will still barely be in it. 😉

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SilverWook said:

ray_afraid said:

There is nothing wrong with re-creating a character whom the original actor sold his likeness for.

And whose estate gave their blessing.

It is nice if they asked his relatives but it is inconsequential. As Ray said, he sold his likeness for the character and that is it.

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Mithrandir said:

The chosen one thing was taken from Matrix.

Nope. Lucas’ mind probably took it from THIS movie:

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Rogue One is redundant. Just play the first mission of DARK FORCES.
The hallmark of a corrupt leader: Being surrounded by yes men.
‘The best visual effects in the world will not compensate for a story told badly.’ - V.E.S.
‘Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.’ - SilverWook

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DominicCobb said:

Yeah. I always contend that (beyond behind the scenes choices like who wrote the scripts and directed) the single biggest mistake that was made on the prequels was starting off with kid Anakin, for oh so many reasons.

Hayden was one movie down on creating a character. He had to do in one movie what Hamill had two to achieve. He would have probably failed, but there would have been more substance to the character.

Is it just me or does almost nothing of importance happen in The Phantom Menace? Anakin is found and Palpatine becomes Chancellor. That’s about it.

It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher

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Haarspalter said:

Mithrandir said:

The chosen one thing was taken from Matrix.

Nope. Lucas’ mind probably took it from THIS movie:

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Wait, are you saying The Matrix DIDN’T invent the concept of a chosen one? Silly. That script has been floating around for ages.

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DominicCobb said:
Wait, are you saying The Matrix DIDN’T invent the concept of a chosen one? Silly. That script has been floating around for ages.

Well, no, yes, no … i just have a theory that Lucas got his creative PT influence completely from Eddie Murphy movies.

Jedi Council
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Boss Nass
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CGI Yoda
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PT Palpatine / Count Dooku
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Jar Jar
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Neimoidians
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Geonosis Arena Execution
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Anakin (fallen angel+overemphasized)
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Rogue One is redundant. Just play the first mission of DARK FORCES.
The hallmark of a corrupt leader: Being surrounded by yes men.
‘The best visual effects in the world will not compensate for a story told badly.’ - V.E.S.
‘Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.’ - SilverWook

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Haarspalter said:

DominicCobb said:
Wait, are you saying The Matrix DIDN’T invent the concept of a chosen one? Silly. That script has been floating around for ages.

Well, no, yes, no … i just have a theory that Lucas got his creative PT influence completely from Eddie Murphy movies.

Jedi Council
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Boss Nass
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CGI Yoda
f

PT Palpatine / Count Dooku
f

Jar Jar
f

Neimoidians
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Geonosis Arena Execution
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Anakin (fallen angel+overemphasized)
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This post is my canon PT.

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suspiciouscoffee said:

Haarspalter said:

DominicCobb said:
Wait, are you saying The Matrix DIDN’T invent the concept of a chosen one? Silly. That script has been floating around for ages.

Well, no, yes, no … i just have a theory that Lucas got his creative PT influence completely from Eddie Murphy movies.

Jedi Council
f

Boss Nass
f

CGI Yoda
f

PT Palpatine / Count Dooku
f

Jar Jar
f

Neimoidians
f

Geonosis Arena Execution
f

Anakin (fallen angel+overemphasized)
f

This post is my canon PT.

It’s also better than all the movies Murphy’s made since Bowfinger.