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Just a quick random thought.
I’ve always had a tulmtous relationship with my Dad, who passed away a few years ago and who I believe to have had a case of high functioning autism. I have felt a great deal of immutable criticism from him and longed for affirmations or validations which were exceedingly rare. It’s been helpful for me to recognize some of the underlying factors and the limitations he was working with all along.
One reason I appreciate the original ‘old man’ ghost of Anakin at the end of ROTJ is because not only do we see Anakin redeemed in the unmasking scene, we even get to see him fully restored into the man he should have been all along. He doesn’t revert to a juvenile state, but is legitimately restored to become what he wasn’t able to be. I know it’s a bit silly, but the image of this sort of restored man smiling back at me speaks to this deep part of me. Able to say those things to me which perhaps he wasn’t before.

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Well, you just convinced me why ‘old man’ Anakin should be there at the end of the film.

Thanks for sharing that personal story with us. I think us finding these kind of things that help us relate Star Wars to our own lives and families is really what the movies are all about. That being your reason for liking it is one of the most appropriate reasons you could have, in my opinion. I’ll always see that moment differently from now on.

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Hal 9000 said:

Just a quick random thought.
I’ve always had a tulmtous relationship with my Dad, who passed away a few years ago and who I believe to have had a case of high functioning autism. I have felt a great deal of immutable criticism from him and longed for affirmations or validations which were exceedingly rare. It’s been helpful for me to recognize some of the underlying factors and the limitations he was working with all along.
One reason I appreciate the original ‘old man’ ghost of Anakin at the end of ROTJ is because not only do we see Anakin redeemed in the unmasking scene, we even get to see him fully restored into the man he should have been all along. He doesn’t revert to a juvenile state, but is legitimately restored to become what he wasn’t able to be. I know it’s a bit silly, but the image of this sort of restored man smiling back at me speaks to this deep part of me. Able to say those things to me which perhaps he wasn’t before.

I’m glad the scene holds that meaning for you. I can see how it could be viewed that way.

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Hal 9000 said:

Just a quick random thought.
I’ve always had a tulmtous relationship with my Dad, who passed away a few years ago and who I believe to have had a case of high functioning autism. I have felt a great deal of immutable criticism from him and longed for affirmations or validations which were exceedingly rare. It’s been helpful for me to recognize some of the underlying factors and the limitations he was working with all along.
One reason I appreciate the original ‘old man’ ghost of Anakin at the end of ROTJ is because not only do we see Anakin redeemed in the unmasking scene, we even get to see him fully restored into the man he should have been all along. He doesn’t revert to a juvenile state, but is legitimately restored to become what he wasn’t able to be. I know it’s a bit silly, but the image of this sort of restored man smiling back at me speaks to this deep part of me. Able to say those things to me which perhaps he wasn’t before.

Awesome OT.com post of the week!™ 😃

That’s totally how I felt seeing Sebastian Shaw back in 1983. It’s the Anakin that could have/should have been. I couldn’t articulate it at the time, but it resonated. It’s a pity George overlooked the power of that image.

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SilverWook said:

No problem. This guy did it first. 😃

Take a closer look … he tried SPINNING … and we all know: that is a good trick. 😉

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Haarspalter said:

SilverWook said:

No problem. This guy did it first. 😃

Take a closer look … he tried SPINNING … and we all know: that is a good trick. 😉

This forum definitely needs an upvote feature.

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The SW Multiverse should consist of 1138 universes only.

“I am a writer. Therefore, I am not sane.”

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It’s beautiful!

This needs to be a project right away!

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Hal 9000 said:

Just a quick random thought.
I’ve always had a tulmtous relationship with my Dad, who passed away a few years ago and who I believe to have had a case of high functioning autism. I have felt a great deal of immutable criticism from him and longed for affirmations or validations which were exceedingly rare. It’s been helpful for me to recognize some of the underlying factors and the limitations he was working with all along.
One reason I appreciate the original ‘old man’ ghost of Anakin at the end of ROTJ is because not only do we see Anakin redeemed in the unmasking scene, we even get to see him fully restored into the man he should have been all along. He doesn’t revert to a juvenile state, but is legitimately restored to become what he wasn’t able to be. I know it’s a bit silly, but the image of this sort of restored man smiling back at me speaks to this deep part of me. Able to say those things to me which perhaps he wasn’t before.

Exactly how I always saw that scene even as a kid. Great post!

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I would like to see a Sith who had High functioning Autism Spectrum Diagnosis.

I can answer almost all questions anyone might have about the Sith from Star Wars Legends, and please do PM me for the bd25 DEED(Despecalised Editions), as I have this version, though I can’t answer technical questions about them. Do not go gentle into that good night, Though wise men at their end know dark is right, They
Do not go gentle into that good night.
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Feel the love.

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SilverWook said:

Hal 9000 said:

Just a quick random thought.
I’ve always had a tulmtous relationship with my Dad, who passed away a few years ago and who I believe to have had a case of high functioning autism. I have felt a great deal of immutable criticism from him and longed for affirmations or validations which were exceedingly rare. It’s been helpful for me to recognize some of the underlying factors and the limitations he was working with all along.
One reason I appreciate the original ‘old man’ ghost of Anakin at the end of ROTJ is because not only do we see Anakin redeemed in the unmasking scene, we even get to see him fully restored into the man he should have been all along. He doesn’t revert to a juvenile state, but is legitimately restored to become what he wasn’t able to be. I know it’s a bit silly, but the image of this sort of restored man smiling back at me speaks to this deep part of me. Able to say those things to me which perhaps he wasn’t before.

Awesome OT.com post of the week!™ 😃

That’s totally how I felt seeing Sebastian Shaw back in 1983. It’s the Anakin that could have/should have been. I couldn’t articulate it at the time, but it resonated. It’s a pity George overlooked the power of that image.

Make that two for Awesome OT.com post of the week!™.

To someone else’s point above; I don’t think Lucas missed the significance of the scene when he was removing it. I don’t think he ever understood the significance. He doesn’t strike me as someone who has a great deal of emotional depth. He’s done an ok job of emulating depth and understanding when it’s suppossed to be in a film, but it seems more from a construction point of view as opposed to emotional. There’s no shortage of interviews and stories of Lucas having weirdly disjointed and broken narratives in American Grafitti and Star Wars until Marcia stepped in to fix them.

Hal’s fantastic explanation of why and how a scene can connect with the audience is exactly why it should be in the film. I can’t imagine there’s anyone who doesn’t really understand why Lucas altered it. No doubt, Lucas made a lot of idiotic and wildly unnecessary changes to the OT, but inserting an actor from a film that came out twenty years later may be the most misguided. He ignored all semblance of depth and instead went with marketing. As he has done for decades, he put his needs ahead of those of the audience.

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LordZerome1080 said:

I would like to see a Sith who had High functioning Autism Spectrum Diagnosis.

You might want to explain that statement before I take it down.

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Anchorhead said:

LordZerome1080 said:

I would like to see a Sith who had High functioning Autism Spectrum Diagnosis.

You might want to explain that statement before I take it down.

What’s wrong with it? I just want representation, I’m High Functioning Autism Spectrum Diagnosis. Also this is a SW random thought thread and you’re not the op.

I can answer almost all questions anyone might have about the Sith from Star Wars Legends, and please do PM me for the bd25 DEED(Despecalised Editions), as I have this version, though I can’t answer technical questions about them. Do not go gentle into that good night, Though wise men at their end know dark is right, They
Do not go gentle into that good night.
“Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.” - SilverWook
Feel the love.

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LordZerome1080 said:

Anchorhead said:

LordZerome1080 said:

I would like to see a Sith who had High functioning Autism Spectrum Diagnosis.

You might want to explain that statement before I take it down.

I just want representation, I’m High Functioning Autism Spectrum Diagnosis.

Fair enough.

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LordZerome1080 said:

Anchorhead said:

LordZerome1080 said:

I would like to see a Sith who had High functioning Autism Spectrum Diagnosis.

You might want to explain that statement before I take it down.

What’s wrong with it?

Without context, that comment could easily sound derogatory.

Also this is a SW random thought thread and you’re not the op.

But he is a moderator, so that doesn’t matter. Why the bad attitude?

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ray_afraid said:

LordZerome1080 said:

Anchorhead said:

LordZerome1080 said:

I would like to see a Sith who had High functioning Autism Spectrum Diagnosis.

You might want to explain that statement before I take it down.

What’s wrong with it?

Without context, that comment could easily sound derogatory.

Also this is a SW random thought thread and you’re not the op.

But he is a moderator, so that doesn’t matter. Why the bad attitude?

He had the bad attitude first.

I can answer almost all questions anyone might have about the Sith from Star Wars Legends, and please do PM me for the bd25 DEED(Despecalised Editions), as I have this version, though I can’t answer technical questions about them. Do not go gentle into that good night, Though wise men at their end know dark is right, They
Do not go gentle into that good night.
“Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.” - SilverWook
Feel the love.

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ray_afraid said:

LordZerome1080 said:

Also this is a SW random thought thread and you’re not the op.

But he is a moderator, so that doesn’t matter. Why the bad attitude?

I see you’ve met Zerome.

“I am a writer. Therefore, I am not sane.”

― Edgar Allan Poe

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LordZerome1080 said:

ray_afraid said:

LordZerome1080 said:

Anchorhead said:

LordZerome1080 said:

I would like to see a Sith who had High functioning Autism Spectrum Diagnosis.

You might want to explain that statement before I take it down.

What’s wrong with it?

Without context, that comment could easily sound derogatory.

Also this is a SW random thought thread and you’re not the op.

But he is a moderator, so that doesn’t matter. Why the bad attitude?

He had the bad attitude first.

Your original answer would have sufficed. Editing it to add two lines of snark, then claiming to be a victim - that’s not going to work for you.

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Choosing to depict the lightsaber as anything more than a rarely used ceremonial weapon was an unwise decision.

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