General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread — Page 217

joefavs said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The official website used a frame from the unaltered version of Star Wars. It’s cropped and weird looking, but it’s not from the GOUT or the Special Edition.

There are at least a dozen “ifs” between this frame showing up on the SW site and confirmation of an upcoming official release of the OOT, but the color in that doesn’t look like the SE or any of the approximations of the “authentic” theatrical colors it the preservations. If this is indicative of anything at all, I wonder if it’s indicative of brand new color timing. I think this opinion puts me in a minority here, but I’d like an OOT blu-ray to look like a really good blu-ray rather than a slavish recreation of a late 70s theater experience, so the idea excites me. I dislike the current blu-ray colors because they’re ugly, not because they’re inaccurate.

I agree 100%, I want something with realistic looking colors that are at least consistent. Getting them generally accurate to the originals is a plus, but having inconsistent colors based on what might not even be entirely accurate source in the first place isn’t something I personally want, but I understand the appeal of that to a lot of purists. The thing is, that shot is NOT the Special Edition (the SE includes clouds covering the bottom sun), which I find very interesting.

And you think the colors in this screenshot look good? I personally think they are super ugly. And it looks very much like the 2004 master, only with even more screwed up color and without the clouds over the lower sun - maybe it comes from the scan before they added the clouds?

They look better than the current colors. Might I ask how it looks like the 04 master? I haven’t seen the DVD in ten years.

Also, I’m pretty sure Lucasfilm uses the 04 master (with changes) as the official digital negative or whatever for the films, so I don’t see why they would have an alternate version of the 04 version without the changes and completely different colors to use for the website instead of the “official” version.

Harmy said:

And you think the colors in this screenshot look good? I personally think they are super ugly. And it looks very much like the 2004 master, only with even more screwed up color and without the clouds over the lower sun - maybe it comes from the scan before they added the clouds?

Yeah, the sand is so orange it looks like more like Mars than Tatooine.

Regardless of the colors I find it curious that a clearly restored frame from the film, without changes and with a completely new color scheme, is being placed on the official website. I was wondering if perhaps it is that 4K thing we heard about a couple years ago. That’s all

I’m pretty sure this image is just created for promotional purposes, using the 2004 master with gamma increased and colors oranged-up (the deep magenta shadows are very telling) and it seems like they replaced the whole sky.

The pic is from the 1997 SE photo set with “color correction”. SE photos are screenshots from the movie. This one is pic number 213.

I know Mark Hamill shared some ROTJ set photos a while back, but a couple of these seem new to me? Especially the Yoda shots.
http://seigneurruei.tumblr.com/post/136697519908/gameraboy-mark-hamill-shared-his-family-photos

moviefreakedmind said:

The official website used a frame from the unaltered version of Star Wars. It’s cropped and weird looking, but it’s not from the GOUT or the Special Edition.

Here’s the Blu-ray with a luminance boost compared to the promotional image that I quickly regraded:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/156949

As you can see, the promo image has tons more detail, especially in Luke’s costume. It also looks like there’s different warping here, just like in the Reliance shots. I’d guess that this was from a potential new release, or as has been mentioned, a film still from the '97 version. It would be wonderful to have a scan of that just to get the missing detail for this shot.

Yeah, looks like the same transfer without compression and all the fake grain they added to the BD after they scrubbed the real grain.

I can’t stop looking at that comparison though - it really shows how bad the BD is.

What photo set are you referring to LexX? I’m not familiar with that

moviefreakedmind said:

What photo set are you referring to LexX? I’m not familiar with that

The one with all SW photos meant for commercial uses. For example SW ScreenThemes pics were based on those although cropped, and that image was actually part of that collection too.

I hear the aquatic-opera company on the planet Rinel does a pretty cool production of Squid Lake, what with it being a water world and all. But my friends Hayden (no relation) tells me that the unexpected noise of rocketships passing overhead can be quite annoying; he finds it tends to distract from his enjoyment of the performances.

Oh, andthe Rinelian Mafia owns a huge stake of the theatre. But that’s another story.

ARe you saying that thought isn’t random? How dare you.

If you mean home video, it’s the only way to present the full image without cropping on a 16:9 monitor. Letterbox bars were a lot bigger in the old days on 4:3 analog tv though. I put up with a pretty small image on a 21 inch tv for years watching letterboxed movies on Laserdisc.

Cropping 2:35 films to fit a 16:9 image is commonly done for television now, and is almost as bad as pan and scan was in the old days. Part of the image is being chopped off.

IMAX screens are not as wide as a 2:35 film, but the screen is bigger and taller, so letterbox bars are necessary for most of the big Hollywood films that are shown.

Who involved with the late Star Wars Galaxies thought showing off Watto’s butt was a good idea? 😉

At least he wore a thong in the movie!

Somebody at SOE must have been Watto-sexual.