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General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread — Page 102

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DuracellEnergizer said:

 

darklordoftech said:



SilverWook said:

The crux of the argument is this: Does the Empire fall in a day after ROTJ, or does it take some time? The Special Edition would have you believe in instant collapse. The original version mostly leaves it up to the mind of the viewer.


There's several sources from 1983 that suggest that the intent was always instant collapse. Making of ROTJ is full of references to the Empire dying with Palpatine and the ROTJ novelization ends with the words, "The Empire is dead."


Only what shows up on screen matters. Authorial intent, supplimentary material, and various behind-the-scenes comments don't matter.

 

Tell Thrawn that.

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Who is this Thrawn guy, ok?

I’m just here because I’m driving tonight.

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darklordoftech said:



DuracellEnergizer said:

 


darklordoftech said:

SilverWook said:

The crux of the argument is this: Does the Empire fall in a day after ROTJ, or does it take some time? The Special Edition would have you believe in instant collapse. The original version mostly leaves it up to the mind of the viewer.



There's several sources from 1983 that suggest that the intent was always instant collapse. Making of ROTJ is full of references to the Empire dying with Palpatine and the ROTJ novelization ends with the words, "The Empire is dead."


Only what shows up on screen matters. Authorial intent, supplimentary material, and various behind-the-scenes comments don't matter.

 


Tell Thrawn that.


Placing the Thrawn Trilogy in my own personal canon =/= the Thrawn Trilogy's validity outside of my own personal canon.

Nice strawman argument, though.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

 

darklordoftech said:



DuracellEnergizer said:

 


darklordoftech said:

SilverWook said:

The crux of the argument is this: Does the Empire fall in a day after ROTJ, or does it take some time? The Special Edition would have you believe in instant collapse. The original version mostly leaves it up to the mind of the viewer.



There's several sources from 1983 that suggest that the intent was always instant collapse. Making of ROTJ is full of references to the Empire dying with Palpatine and the ROTJ novelization ends with the words, "The Empire is dead."


Only what shows up on screen matters. Authorial intent, supplimentary material, and various behind-the-scenes comments don't matter.

 


Tell Thrawn that.


Placing the Thrawn Trilogy in my own personal canon =/= the Thrawn Trilogy's validity outside of my own personal canon.

Nice strawman argument, though.

 

You're the one using the strawman argument. You have repeatedly insisted that the Thrawn trilogy is absolutely canon and flamed anybody who doesn't acknowledge it.

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darklordoftech said:



DuracellEnergizer said:

 


darklordoftech said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

 

darklordoftech said:
SilverWook said:

The crux of the argument is this: Does the Empire fall in a day after ROTJ, or does it take some time? The Special Edition would have you believe in instant collapse. The original version mostly leaves it up to the mind of the viewer.




There's several sources from 1983 that suggest that the intent was always instant collapse. Making of ROTJ is full of references to the Empire dying with Palpatine and the ROTJ novelization ends with the words, "The Empire is dead."



Only what shows up on screen matters. Authorial intent, supplimentary material, and various behind-the-scenes comments don't matter.

 



Tell Thrawn that.



Placing the Thrawn Trilogy in my own personal canon =/= the Thrawn Trilogy's validity outside of my own personal canon.

Nice strawman argument, though.

 


You're the one using the strawman argument. You have repeatedly insisted that the Thrawn trilogy is absolutely canon and flamed anybody who doesn't acknowledge it.


Wow, are you blind, for two main reasons:

1. I've never insisted that anything -- be it the Thrawn Trilogy, other EU works, or Shabby Blue's porn -- is "absolutely canon".

2. I flamed you (not everyone, just you) for saying the entire EU (of which the Thrawn Trilogy is only a part) was worse than the PT and providing few-to-no good reasons for why it was so, not because you didn't accept it or parts of it as canon. I don't give a shit about what others consider canon.

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Bury the hatchet in some turkey, not each other? ;)

Where were you in '77?

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Speaking of burying hatchets on Thanksgiving...

We Americans like to forget how many hatchets were buried in Native Americans when we celebrate our Thanksgiving. Not that that's a "Star Wars" thought.... but it is random

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Okay, everyone out of my thread while I scrub it down.

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I'm still bothered about how the Holiday Special is always classified as a Christmas special. It aired squarely in the Thanksgiving zone.

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Yeah, but the number of pure Thanksgiving tv specials isn't very large. (Episodes of regular tv shows don't count.) The Charlie Brown one is probably the only show that still runs every year. Some of the others I recall from childhood probably aren't PC by today's fickle standards.

Where were you in '77?

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They seem generally confused whenever they try to do anything pilot related. In fact, wasn't their last goof on their facebook page claiming Wedge Antilles grew up with Luke on Tatooine?

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I think that's something they're trying to push in the EU. In Rogue Leader (the video game) Wedge is among Luke's childhood friends in the training segment.

But yeah, their confusion between Biggs and Red Leader's death is pretty hilarious.

I’m just here because I’m driving tonight.

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Are you sure you're not making the same mistake they did with confusing him with Biggs Darklighter? Wookieepedia makes no mention of Wedge knowing Luke before the Battle of Yavin. They plainly state that he's Corellian in fact.

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