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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD * — Page 31

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Tyrphanax said:

IP55 said:

If the last Jedi is Luke we will defo see an ESB rehash with Luke training Rey ffs!

No doubt Luke will be killed by kylo ren yawn. And Rey will watch him get killed!

So… uh… should Luke not train anyone? Should Rey not become a Jedi? Or are you just trolling?

I’m not trolling fyi, it’s clear that this is what will occur, how it can be any different to ESB will be interesting.

Unless it goes down the same line as Luke is now too old and Rey is the new ‘new hope’… Tell me that’s not rehash?

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imperialscum said:

This “The Last Jedi” thing seems like a rehash of Yoda situation in ESB.

IP55 said:

If the last Jedi is Luke we will defo see an ESB rehash with Luke training Rey ffs!

This post is a rehash.

“It’s a lot of fun… it’s a lot of fun to watch Star Wars.” – Bill Moyers

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92.6% of posts by a certain few members are rehashes.

And “rehash” is the new “George raped my childhood.”

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If memory serves Obi-Wan trained Luke in SW and then Yoda trains him in ESB…if that’s true that could only mean…

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Lord Haseo said:

If memory serves Obi-Wan trained Luke in SW and then Yoda trains him in ESB…if that’s true that could only mean…

It means they did not rehash Obi-Wan from ANH but they did Yoda from ESB. I do not think anyone claims they rehash every single concept. They only rehash most of them.

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imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

If memory serves Obi-Wan trained Luke in SW and then Yoda trains him in ESB…if that’s true that could only mean…

It means they did not rehash Obi-Wan from ANH but they did Yoda from ESB. I do not think anyone claims they rehash every single concept. They only rehash most of them.

Based on the fact that she will be trained in the 2nd movie and on some new planet…which is barely the premise of the training. We don’t know what type of teacher Luke will be, what he will teach her, how she will react to the teachings and even if she will complete her training.

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Lord Haseo said:

If memory serves Obi-Wan trained Luke in SW and then Yoda trains him in ESB…if that’s true that could only mean…

Yes, it does mean it. In both movies Jedi Masters are introduced as crazy old hermits that after their covers get blown up start speaking as mystical leaders. But that’s forgivable in Empire, and happily it’s something that wasn’t used again in the saga, now that I think of it.

I just read a supposed leaked script in reddit. If true, there is some ESB recycling, but there are some fun and well written moments, specially with Lando acknowledging Finn how to cope with friendzoning. But then the third act definetely gave it away it’s a fake.

I don’t know if this movie is going to be a soft rehash or not. I just wished the whole overarching trajectory of the trilogy wasn’t a soft reboot of the political state of the galaxy at the beginning of the OT, but that is what it seems to be: The Jedi gone. An Imperial opressive force. The good guys being underdogs.

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She won’t complete her training…cause Luke will be killed…I bet luke’s her dad n’all

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Mithrandir said:

Lord Haseo said:

If memory serves Obi-Wan trained Luke in SW and then Yoda trains him in ESB…if that’s true that could only mean…

Yes, it does mean it. In both movies Jedi Masters are introduced as crazy old hermits that after their covers get blown up start speaking as mystical leaders. But that’s forgivable in Empire, and happily it’s something that wasn’t used again in the saga, now that I think of it.

I wasn’t being serious dude. Also, Owen called Ben crazy but he never acted that way around Luke before he revealed himself to be a Jedi. He was talking to Luke in their first scene together like he did in their last scene together. He certainly wasn’t throwing Luke’s stuff out of his Speeder while giggling

I don’t know if this movie is going to be a soft rehash or not. I just wished the whole overarching trajectory of the trilogy wasn’t a soft reboot of the political state of the galaxy at the beginning of the OT, but that is what it seems to be: The Jedi gone. An Imperial opressive force. The good guys being underdogs.

If anything the playing ground is pretty even after the destruction of the Hosnian System and Starkiller Base. And before that The First Order was more or less in the same position the Rebels were in the OT.

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MalàStrana said:

Le Dernier Jedi ?
Les Derniers Jedi ?
La Dernière Jedi ?
The Last Thursday ?

Spoiler alert when the translations come. But I believe there is no ambiguity, it refers to Luke and that’s all.

As does The Force Awaken crawl…

"Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen from the ashes of the Empire and will not rest until Skywalker,

the last Jedi,

has been destroyed."

Credit goes to google/twitter, not me…

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TV’s Frink said:

92.6% of posts by a certain few members are rehashes.

And “rehash” is the new “George raped my childhood.”

“Disney rehashed my childhood.”

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Pete’s Dragon '16 really has very little in common with the original.

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In a short interview with Empire Magazine, Rian Johnson briefly teases about his work on The Last Jedi (edited for RO spoilers):

With Rogue One now safely rolled out across the world, we find ourselves less than a year away from the next Star Wars saga installment, this week revealed to be titled The Last Jedi. After filming in Skellig Michael (the island at the end of The Force Awakens), Pinewood, Dubrovnik, Croatia and County Cork, principal photography wrapped on 22 July 2016. Although deep in post-production — John Williams has already started recording the score — writer/director Rian Johnson took the time to answer Empire’s burning questions about the current state of play and the film’s influences.

How are things going on Episode VIII?

Great! We’re in the thick of editing, really digging into it. It’s taking shape and I’m very excited.

Name three non-Star Wars films you watched in preparation.

Twelve O’Clock High was a big touchstone, for the feel and look of the aerial combat as well as the dynamic between the pilots. Three Outlaw Samurai for the feel of the sword-fighting, and the general sense of pulpy fun. And To Catch A Thief was a great film to rewatch, for the romantic scale and grandeur.

What are your memories of the first day of shooting?

Our first day of shooting was actually several months before principal photography began: we had three days on Skellig Michael island. So not only was it day one of Star Wars on this incredible natural location, but because the island was so inaccessible it was a very stripped-down, run-and-gun crew. Pretty much the perfect start to the whole adventure.

What is the hardest thing about writing Star Wars dialogue?

I found myself constantly wanting to push modern idioms into the dialogue, and sometimes that can work, but you have to be very careful. If you go too far you can break that Star Wars spell. The other challenge is the tech talk, which has to be simultaneously complex enough to sound real and conceptually simple enough to follow. The original films were brilliant at that.

What surprised you most about directing a Star Wars film?

I guess the biggest surprise was the intimacy of the process. It’s huge, sure, and it’s filled with pressures great and small. But at the end of the day, it boils down to the same things as the smaller films we’ve made: telling a story we care about with a camera and some actors. And a Wookiee.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi is released in cinemas worldwide on December 15.

Rian Johnson just keeps saying all the right things for me.

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Any word on if Hayden Christensen is going to be ruining the movie by being in it? I dread that more than anything at all.

It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher

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Until proven otherwise, I wouldn’t give much credence to that fanboy rumor. There was a silly thing going around last month that Gungans were going to appear in Rogue One, and it was Bantha poodoo.

Where were you in '77?

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I think ‘The Last Jedi’ refers to Luke abandoning the conceptual ideals of the Jedi, which is what led to their downfall in the first place (and possibly what led to his failure with Ben and the loss of his students).

Luke will be the Last Jedi because he abandons those ideals when he trains Rey. Rey’s training will embrace both the dark and the light, but only in an attempt to do what is right and just. We saw him sort of embrace that in ROTJ, and maybe that scared him, but after losing all of his students and reexamineing the ideals of past Jedi, he realizes that suppressing the dark side isn’t the best way to go. So he teaches Rey to embrace love, and to accept possesion and attachment as a natural part of life and the force.

So he, in the end, truly is the last Jedi. That would be a good way to both acknowledge the prequels, but also distance itself from them.

But I do think he will at least make it to Episode IX

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Hope we get a teaser for the Superbowl. We ought to know either way pretty soon.

Where were you in '77?