Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD * — Page 66

ray_afraid said:

RicOlie_2 said:

TMBTM said:

 

ray_afraid said:

-I hate that soccer ball droid. How's his R2 head staying on? Looks so silly. 

Magnetic power of some kind.

Again, use your imagination people! This is not Star Trek, were everything have to be explained on screen with lousy concepts. This is Star Wars, were the lousy concepts are the ones the fans should bring during discussions with their friends! Anyone have the right to not like the look of that droid. But saying that you "hate" a 3 seconds video clips of that cute little droid because you don't understand how its head stands on its body... Come on. Maybe it will be your favorite character in the end! ;)

 This. Although I'm not a fan of the droid, I don't hate it. Many, many aspects of the OT didn't, and don't make sense. Yet when similar things pop up in newer films, they're criticized and torn to bits. I think Ray has the right to his opinion, and I'm not criticizing him for it, but complaining about technological aspects of the movie (as distinct from story, which does need to make sense) when the OT was plagued with things that didn't make sense is silly, if you think the OT was amazing at the same time. It's hard to make sequels to classic movies and make them good enough for people to be happy with them, so don't be too picky or you'll end up with negative feelings about the trilogy for sure.

 There are things in the OT that don't make scientific sense, but it all makes visual sense. There's nothing in the OT that needs to be explained because you see it you just understand.
I guess this could fall into the same category to some, but it just looks silly to me.
Why does it need an R2D2 head on top?

 That's a fair point.  The OT universe, as described by Lucas himself, was one where you could see the rivets.  You could see how something was built.  And maybe in that sense, the contrast of that universe to the sub culture of The Force stands in stark contrast as something mystical.

walking_carpet said:

Tobar said:

emanswfan said:

First test at trying to reduce the teal-orange color grade and give it a slightly more OT look.  Still needs some work though.

http://youtu.be/zwVjr1URORI

JEDIT: As always, Youtube manages to ruin the video with bad compression.

 Night and day! I actually got excited watching it this time. Now the only real complaint I have is that stupid saber. Fantastic work emanswfan!

 interesting.  im not good at spotting the whole teal/orange thing but this trailer it looks like the overall color is slightly dialed back.  I think the nighttime forest scene in the teaser was fine, and we dont know if the blue light with the stormtroopers was because it just had interior light thats blue. 

But its nice to see that john boyega didnt crash land on a planet made out of Tang!!!BWAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAA

Color grading can be a great tool for fantasy movies, and all movies have some look that make it a product of its time due to technology and materials, but I dont want Star Wars to go on a bandwagon and take a look just because its trendy.

its funny cuz on thanksgiving I finally saw SW on Blu Ray at someones house and it looked ridiculous.  He is very knowledgeable about home theatre and had his tv calibrated.  Its a Mitsubishi DLP TV - and this was an underrated display technology that never caught on.  Anyway, even setting aside all cgi crap, the video quality left a lot to be desired.  There was one shot with C3PO walking in the desert and it was almost like he had a magnetic field and was repelling the film grain around him!!  another scene - obi-wan rescuing luke and he looked SO orange, John Boehner would have found it excessive.  I know there has been some debate regarding the color and contrast of that particular scene, but i dont ever remember obi-wan looking almost like a carrot. 

again, i am not as good as others at noticing this stuff.  so when I can spot the ridiculous DNR on TPM and sub-par, oversaturated tiknering on SW, you know its bad.

No one tell danny boy, lest we get six more pages of how wonderful the Blu Rays look as long as you don't have a crap display.

Oh...

Is there any way to delete PMs after they've been sent?

^Backwards time travel. =P

I should clarify that that was a joke, for those who need that sort of clarification (but I assume you knew that already, Dura'gizer).

RicOlie_2 said:

I should clarify that that was a joke, for those who need that sort of clarification.

 Why thank you, that was very thoughtful of you. =P

This trailer gave me a good warm feeling.

But then he'd be referencing the PT, and that just isn't allowed on this forum.

I wonder if that soccer ball droid is going to become the "new" sidekick of the new characters kind of like R2 was for the OT characters (and PT characters, I guess).  Or, could it simply be a short lived gag moment like Chewbecca scaring away the mouse droid on the Death Star?

RicOlie_2 said:

But then he'd be referencing the PT, and that just isn't allowed on this forum.

 Yousa sure o dat?

walking_carpet said:

im not good at spotting the whole teal/orange thing but this trailer it looks like the overall color is slightly dialed back.  I think the nighttime forest scene in the teaser was fine, and we dont know if the blue light with the stormtroopers was because it just had interior light thats blue.

walking_carpet, I just happened to comment on this over on Fanedit.org in response to emanswfan's recolouration of the teaser, but I'll repeat it here also -

The other day I actually paused the teaser at the very last moment of the shot showing the back of the legs of the new Stormtroopers as they are about to disembark down the ramp - the reason?...I was curious to see if it was possible to get a glimpse in that shot of what their 'footwear' looked like in any way, as it changed considerably between the Original Trilogy versions and the Prequel versions (or the other way round to be technically correct).  No luck however, as the shot just cuts off as it pans down the back of their legs towards their heels.

However, while I originally thought those Stormtrooper shots had been given a distinctly blueish/teal colour-grading overall, it actually turns out that it indeed seems that it's just the colour of the lighting inside the transport they're waiting in that is reflecting the hue on their armour...as the precise moment I paused the end of the shot shows the legs of the Stormtroopers turning to gleaming white after all at that point, as the ramp door opens wider.  It's just that the shot ends abruptly at this point, too quickly for our eyes to catch this last frame.  So I'm satisfied that the blueish/teal look of those particular shots is just due to the colour of the lighting reflecting off their armour after all, rather than due to deliberate colour-meddling.

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I'm pretty pleased with the teaser overall, and I'll go into more detail why later on today sometime.

RicOlie_2 said:

I should clarify that that was a joke, for those who need that sort of clarification (but I assume you knew that already, Dura'gizer).

Perish forbid. I was so serious, I was dead! 

NeverarGreat said:

unamochilla2 said:

I wonder if that soccer ball droid is going to become the "new" sidekick of the new characters kind of like R2 was for the OT characters (and PT characters, I guess).  Or, could it simply be a short lived gag moment like Chewbecca scaring away the mouse droid on the Death Star?

I highly doubt that it will be a throwaway gag, as this trailer shows most major players in the movie. I would bet money that this is Daisy Ridley's droid, on some sort of mission at the station.

That's what I'm guessing since Ridley's character is shown racing towards the station the same droid is at (or so it seems). 

Darth Lucas said:

But I like the idea that he could be even more powerful than Palpatine ever was.  So much so that he was able to deceive Palpatine in believing him to be dead while he waited for the perfect moment to rise up.  It's something that could be extremely cool if it was done well and would actually give the prequels SOME kind of purpose in this saga besides pointlessly setting up the OT and pissing off alot of fans.

 I would hate it if the new villain was "more powerful than palpatine ever was".  That would cheapen the movies that came before it IMHO, and sequels should never cheapen the originals.

http://youtu.be/v93Jh6JNBng

 I give this a gold star

Baronlando said:

http://youtu.be/v93Jh6JNBng

 I give this a gold star

 My favorite version of the teaser yet!

SilverWook said:

Another neat little detail I only now noticed, there's a long rifle style blaster strapped to the speeder, similar to what Luke had in the first film. It's only visible in the closeup, so the wide shot must be a different point in the story.

 I was just about to point this out.

I don't know why I feel the need to defend the droid but I am pretty sure that it has similar compartments on the ball that other R2 units have. Meaning it is not less practical than say R2D2. I'm sure it can do all the stuff that R2D2 does (except maybe flying..) but is also faster when it comes to moving around.

I wish an official explanation about how the crossguard works would come soon so I can stop worrying about it.

Re: Stormtrooper boots. IIRC the OT stormtrooper boots were just regular Chelsea styled boots that were painted white. I assume the new ones are bit more "designed" than those.

Baronlando said:

http://youtu.be/v93Jh6JNBng

 I give this a gold star

 This was brilliant :)