darklordoftech said:
unamochilla2 said:
It kind of looks like one of the guys who were around the Emperor in ROTJ... I find their names...
Their names are JanUs Greejatus, Sim Aloo, and Kren Blista-Vanee.
Well, I guess it can't be any of them since they're classified as legends.
Anyone expecting to see a film that looks like it was made in the late 70s/early 80s will be disappointed. This film is made in 2015, obviously special effects and the exact way things look will be a little different.
From a strict special effects perspective, I think it looks great. Really excited about this film.
Is the black guy's name Bree'th Hev'ly?
Too many rough nights with Kit Fisto
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Just seen the teaser, and I can with complete honesty say that this is the first time that I've been this excited for a star wars related thing in a long time.
I can't get over this "First Order" stuff. It's so technocratic.
The trailer made me want to believe because it was good, but I've got a bad feeling about the story. Seems like it will be wonky.
My memory must be scrambled but seeing the note at the end of the trailer about this being in 3D took me by surprise.
Hopefully there'll be nothing that permenantly damages the film going forward beyond when everyone has finally decided they prefer to watch films in 2D ;-)
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mfastx said:
Anyone expecting to see a film that looks like it was made in the late 70s/early 80s will be disappointed. This film is made in 2015, obviously special effects and the exact way things look will be a little different.
From a strict special effects perspective, I think it looks great. Really excited about this film.
Agreed.
People forget how much more polished the look of ESB was over Star Wars and likewise how ROTJ was more polished than either of the previous two.
Well it is 30 years later; to expect it to have the same unpolished look is an odd thing to me.
Things like this image below are exactly the kind of things many fans imagined in their own further adventures. Well, Abrams is a fan and it shows.
luckydube56 said:
mfastx said:
Anyone expecting to see a film that looks like it was made in the late 70s/early 80s will be disappointed. This film is made in 2015, obviously special effects and the exact way things look will be a little different.
From a strict special effects perspective, I think it looks great. Really excited about this film.
Agreed.
People forget how much more polished ESB was over Star Wars and likewise how ROTJ was more polished than either of the previous two.
Well it is 30 years later; to expect it to have the same unpolished look is an odd thing to me.
Things like this image below are exactly the kind of things many fans imagined in their own further adventures. Well, Abrams is a fan and it shows.
That's true for the OT. Interestingly, I don't think that applies to the PT, though. I think the effects decreased in quality in AOTC, but got better for ROTS. I still think TPM looks the best out of the PT... effects-wise.
luckydube56 said:
People forget how much more polished the look of ESB was over Star Wars and likewise how ROTJ was more pished than either of the previous two.
While I'll agree about ESB looking more polished than ANH, ROTJ was if anything less polished than ANH.
In fact I'd go as far as saying it looked half finished in places and thrown together from left overs in others.
ROTJ is a far more dated piece of work than either of the first two films, even factoring the sideburns.
I'm a big fan of the visuals in the teaser, but I have to say the zoom shot is so heavy handed and unnatural. It completely takes me out of the flow of that scene and disrupts my suspension of disbelief.
luckydube, your image is broken...
Where were you in '77?
Alderaan said:
I'm a big fan of the visuals in the teaser, but I have to say the zoom shot is so heavy handed and unnatural. It completely takes me out of the flow of that scene and disrupts my suspension of disbelief.
Agreed. I wish JJ would ease up on that stuff. Although, as the film is still being cut, it's possible that won't make it into the final edit. I don't want any shaky cam during the space battles either for the same reason. I normally am not distracted by it, but that is such a sharp contrast to what we saw in the OT, I wont be able to watch it without noticing. I still think he is a solid director, but I'm much more confident in Rian Johnson.
If they just release the theatrical versions on blu ray, though, I'll be so happy that I won't care if TFA is the worst piece of crap in film history.
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I don't know, to me, both of these images look like photoshop paintings, especially when viewed at full resolution.
Taken as read all possible cynicism from myself, I have found I have sort of fallen in love with this little chap :
Oh, the fact that they actually build this droid practically was one thing I was extremely impressed by.
Yeah I'm starting to warm up to him myself. That shot of him peeking around the corner on the Falcon was nice.
Will be interesting to see if he and Artoo get along. Maybe they will gang up on Threepio? ;)
Where were you in '77?
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=44035
Some new photos. Chewie looks more like his old self in one of them...
Where were you in '77?
Harmy said:
I'm personally not too excited. There were some bits I liked and there were some I didn't. Some of the character moments were nice but in the last shot, it didn't click for me as seeing Han again, I just saw Harrison Ford, I don't know why and Chewie looks really weird too.
I agree, and the reason is becuse it is Harrison Ford. IMO he has played almost all his roles like this since '83 instead of magically becoming them. Very cheesy - Holiday Special/Crystal Skull vibes. Definitely the weak part of the teaser. It appear oddly staged as well, in the way you get the feeling it was a sequence shot for the single purpose of inclusion in a trailer.
Apparently the short sequence have already brought some fanboys to tears even though it's not any more exciting than it would have been seeing behind the scenes stills of Harrison on the set. Love Ford and the original Star Wars but this nostalgia cinema that is Hollywood these days just goes to show how creatively bankrupt they are.
Harmy said:
And the VFX shots reminded me of this video by MVerta about VFX shots grounded in reality, which was a hallmark of the original movies. The crazy camera moves, while cool, just don't read as reality. It looks sort of incogruent with not only the original movies but, from what we've seen so far, also with the live action in this new movie.
I don't think the FX-footage we've seen so far from this movie look anything different in its aesthetic sensibilities from any other big blockbuster movie from the last decade or so...
The early McQuarrie/Johnston work come to life is definitely the highlight and quite eerie. While I fully share Verta's view on the effects of Star Wars '77 and the general approach to visual effects before the CGI-era, even Star Wars '77 had its fair share of "cool looking shots" - the POV dive into the trench is one of them.
Another reason for its "grounded in reality" was the world war II footage they utilized as a form of animatics. That's also why most of it looks like believable WW-II dogfights in space.
Sure, the crash zoom and video game aesthetics are disappointing. But in the end, will Kasdan and Abrams be able to tell a good story within this big spectacle? Is it just a nostalgia party for both actors and fanboys? Is this a good story that was waiting to be told? Was the script for Star Wars 7 the initial spark or was it the merchandising opportunities? I think most of us know the answers. I just know that my eyes were never meant to see a 70+ Solo. Sorry, Harrison, pass the torch already!
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I cried, therefore I am a fanboy now. :(
In 2005, we all thought Star Wars was over and done with. That we're getting a new movie with the original characters in it at all feels like a miracle. That's what people are reacting to. Maybe it's cynical marketing, but it's Star Wars, darnit!
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SilverWook said:
I cried, therefore I am a fanboy now. :(
In 2005, we all thought Star Wars was over and done with. That we're getting a new movie with the original characters in it at all feels like a miracle. That's what people are reacting to. Maybe it's cynical marketing, but it's Star Wars, darnit!
And this one actually feels like star wars to me.
SilverWook said:
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=44035
Some new photos. Chewie looks more like his old self in one of them...
He looks great there!
I can't quite put my finger on what's wrong with his face in the trailer...
SilverWook said:
I cried, therefore I am a fanboy now. :(
In 2005, we all thought Star Wars was over and done with. That we're getting a new movie with the original characters in it at all feels like a miracle. That's what people are reacting to. Maybe it's cynical marketing, but it's Star Wars, darnit!
Sorry if I come across as a party pooper, we all just want to voice our opinions, SW means much to us all in different ways. I actually, much to my surprise, liked what I was seeing despite my negative words towards our lovable space smuggler.
We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions.
Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com
*Nods*
There was an expectation after ESB that Star Wars was going to go on long enough for the actors to grow old in their parts. Weird Al referenced this in his Yoda song.
Starlog magazine even made jokes about their early 21st century incarnation that would come on a computer disk, and feature an interview with an aged Mark Hamill in his Jedi Master costume on the set of the latest episode. They couldn't predict their own demise, alas.
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On Chewies eyes, I'm not sure there's any doctoring, or it's incomplete. He has the same look in a Force for Change video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48dGX8zmK4I
I'm wondering if Peters vision is not what it used to be and he cannot wear contacts, or the original design is no longer comfortable at 70. There's also a taller guy in there in a black jump suit with eye black that might be a stunt double. He didn't appear to have blue eyes, but you'd think they would just give him blue contacts.
The growl also seems out of sync and too hard of a sound effect for a subtle mouth movement. I bet it's a generic placeholder from their sfx archives, and Han and Chewie were a last minute addition to the trailer.