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Doctor Who: The Ten Doctors (Released) — Page 2

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I just tried it again, by clicking the link above and was able to download it no problem.

I right-clicked and used 'Save Target As', if that's any help.
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I haven't yet been able to retrieve the work I did a couple days ago, but I opened up a new project and did a bunch more material - almost a minute and a half's worth. There's a lot of Hartnell and Pertwee, everybody with everybody.

I need to retrieve the previous material though, it's got a lot of good new stuff in it. I open up the project and it crashes almost instantly. This is my goal now, to somehow retrieve this data.

There are a few kind of lengthy segments with Colin Baker which I have to do something with ....
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Update - retrieved it! After wasting 3 days trying, endlessly - it took a long long time but I was able to create a video file from the unfinished timeline, and even identified the file that was causing most of the problems!

It will be easy at this point to put together a longer trailer. That said, I'd like to do some more work on these Colin Baker "scenes" first. So ...
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I really like most of what you've done, but I do find the sections with the voice overs ugly.
Mostly because you have different Doctors with their lips moving in speeches but not saying anything while someone else talks.
Any chance of those getting fixed?

Dr. M

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No, that will not be fixed. Some people at Roobard's complained about that too, and I don't understand it. It's a trailer, you're going to have different audio over different video.

The Doctor is a talkative guy, and most of the useable shots of any Doctor show him talking. I usually have to cheat to show him not talking. What he is actually saying in most of those shots isn't usually worth putting into a trailer - it's discussing plot points that have nothing to do with our "story" here.

So I pick shots based on their visual quality, not what he's saying. Audio allows me to discuss the "plot" of this trailer more accurately.

This is a choice and not an error.

That said, I took those complaints into account while editing this new version and you'll see MUCH more of Doctors talking onscreen where you can hear them. You'll get more of a narrative. In fact, a few shots which were silent before I've added the audio back to, and some lines which were only voiceover have become onscreen speech.



I've been in a living hell the past few days as every project I created to try and finish this thing eventually became corrupted and crashed. It takes about 8 minutes just to open Final Cut Pro, and then it would crash instantly, so basically I spent 4 days watching the thing crash. Yay.

Anyway, I eventually salvaged what I'd done, and I've got a 7 minute trailer now - that's well over twice as long as the previous version.

Much of the length is due to the verbose, arrogant, rude and somewhat ginger Colin Baker as the sixth Doctor. I said there was going to be way too much of him in this one, and I was right .... I had too much material with him that matched perfectly the "plot" I was trying to create for this trailer. I cut it down to the best bits, but there's a lot of it.

I edited a complete version of him meeting Tegan again from "A Fix With Sontarans", but left it out as I couldn't justify the long segment in a trailer. I left in a second pretty long segment from "A Fix With Sontarans" though.

It's gotten to the point where I had selected long segments from certain episodes that would advance the "plot" ... such as part of the beginning of "Rise of the Cybermen" for the 10th Doctor ....

But I wanted to keep the trailer moving, so I kept my selections from these short anyway. I certainly had a lot of material by this point to create something six times as long.



It's long now, yes, long .... and it would have been a lot longer if not for my Final Cut troubles. I was only able to finish the trailer by not using the M2V format for video anymore.


It's rendering now and I'll post it soon, after I've looked it over a bit.




Again, about 200 good ideas for shots got lost in all the crashing .... for Big Finish fans I was actually planning on showing Paul McGann with India Fisher. Well, if I ever do another version. I think this might be it, though.
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I fixed the url for your first link; it was broken. It's still only the 1:28 version though.

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I seem to be having FTP issues. I've contacted my server.

I hadn't realized the file had NEVER been updated since the first version, despite being told otherwise by the server's FTP program.

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Terrible. I guess everyone's been watching the Youtube version, which stinks because an effects project like this needs to be seen at full size.
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Heh heh, I wondered why I didn't notice much difference in the new versions.

Dr. M

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"If it were a Lucasarts video game" ...


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My sources tell me the BBC has yet to actually broadcast Doctor Who in high def, so any anamorphic DVD (from broadcast) is artifical from the get go.


Anamorphic doesn't imply HD. The new series is broadcast anamorphically on satellite and Freeview, and in 14:9 on the analogue service.

On the subject of HD, I heard that Sony offered the BBC a free bunch of HD cameras specifically for Doctor Who, but the BBC turned them down. SFX costs would have been an issue, I'm sure, but it would have been nice.

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Originally posted by: Darth Editous
My sources tell me the BBC has yet to actually broadcast Doctor Who in high def, so any anamorphic DVD (from broadcast) is artifical from the get go.


Anamorphic doesn't imply HD. The new series is broadcast anamorphically on satellite and Freeview, and in 14:9 on the analogue service.

On the subject of HD, I heard that Sony offered the BBC a free bunch of HD cameras specifically for Doctor Who, but the BBC turned them down. SFX costs would have been an issue, I'm sure, but it would have been nice.

DE


They were offered to late to be used on the first series, and for some reason weren't used on the second series, but series 3 and Torchwood are being shot in HD.
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Yes, but HD in this case means High Davies and just means it's got more high resolution camp.




Excitable and Welsh at twice the resolution! You'll be beating out a samba!
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And luck for us high quality capper Mad Martha has been not-so-quietly working on perfecting a high def x264 anamorphic capture for the upcoming HD broadcasts.

Dr. M

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And begging for money. =D


MM's aight with me.
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I just watched your 10 Doctors edit
simply great
there's an amazing amount of work and searching to get the correct clips and the right place
serious headache going through all that
but loved it
very hard work
awesome


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PAL and NTSC DVD versions of this 7min trailer are now at the torrent site with Demon in its name.

The trailer was edited in PAL format, so the PAL version is the better of the two.

They're small and both should download fast.

Both versions feature an extra scene with Tegan and the 6th Doctor from Jim'll Fix It, that didn't make it into this trailer.

The PAL version also has a secret extra audio track of the trailer without music, that's not at all in sync for some reason (running slightly too fast). Hence it being secret.
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Tim Kocher wrote and asked if this could become a full hourlong episode.

I did it as a long trailer to hide the problems of working with found footage.

As I said to him ...

I have no doubt that a wonderful 2-hour adventure could be done with the Ten Doctors together, but to make it work, the KEY would be to shoot new footage with Doctors 7-10 and companions, and preferably get new voice work from 4-6 and companions. You can make old footage say something completely different than it used to, but it does require careful writing of a new "other side" of the conversation. Somebody call Russell T ....

I've put away the editing gloves on this one for now, but I would consider revisiting it in the future, though in a different way. I would do an opening act ... select clips from different episodes for all the 10 Doctors, showing what they're doing before they all meet. I know that 9 would mostly be Boomtown, 10 would be Rise of the Cybermen, and 6 would be In a Fix With Sontarans (as seen on the DVD). Stuart Humphryes just did a short colorized opening clip of the First Doctor which he intended to be the intro to a hypothetical Tennant episode ... stealing my ideas as I steal his colorizations. =)

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Has anyone seen the new April Fools Doctor Who clip that's floating around on the net?

Some attribute it to the BBC, but the special effects and editing have a strong similarity to the way the 10 Doctors is made.

Can anyone confirm or deny OCPMovie's involvement?

Dr. M

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Doctor M said:

Is Farmergeddon OCPMovie?

His Flight of the Darned is one of the most brilliant things I've ever seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmh8xeX6SG0

Their style seems to be very different but who knows?

I also love  "Bye bye Tom" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS5niD5QFF4&feature=channel_page

Babelcolour AKA the forementioned Stuart Humphryes has also moved into the world of the funny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJPhhaXiUTE&feature=related

 

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The Misiniformation guide was crazy.  I'm sure I didn't get half the referrences, but well worth the watch.

Dr. M