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This shot? http://i.imgur.com/HNimLm8.jpg
Yep, that’s the one: all shots in the scene from that C3PO arm to just before the exterior shot outside Ben’s hut. The scenes just prior (to the arm) look sharp, and the interior of Ben’s hut look sharp as well (well, except for the Luke lightsaber shot, which looks a bit blurry, but that one is blurry in 2.5 as well). BTW, I love the new lightsaber effect here - much more true to the original!
I think I used harmy’s 97SE for the rest of that scene, starting from that shot.
I’m curious: could the bluray source not be used for this scene (i.e. not try to fix the color in 2.5, but color-correct the raw bluray material? (forgive my ignorance if not).
The 2.5 color correction had been pushed so far that there was nothing left
(at least for someone with my skillset) to work with, especially in the final
shot of the scene.
Yes, and the specular highlight on C3PO’s arm in 2.7 looks much more natural. In 2.5 it’s very yellow.
Some of those shots, to me, look super sharpened in 2.5
Hmm, maybe they were. When you look at something sharpened next to something not as sharpened, it sticks out. It’s sort of a judgement call how much sharpening to use, but if the prior scenes were that sharp off the bluray, then keeping the same sharpness throughout probably makes sense. I did not go look at the bluray yet…
There’s nothing particularly bad looking about that arm shot, but you have to keep
in mind that it’s the same shot that pans over to the characters, which in turn
needs to match the other (same) shots of those characters as much as possible.
Yeah, all shots in that scene (from the arm to before Ben’s hut) look about the same softness to me. I agree they’d all have to be adjusted in the same way.
It’s a pain in the ass to color correct shots that are actually two shots, as such.
A huge example is Han getting up from Greedo’s table, walking up to the bar, and the
Death Star shot that it wipes to.
I bet. 😃
Anyway, I don’t think there should be anything wrong with the shot. But I
don’t know the specifics about the 97SE there. If something was done that
would reduce the picture quality or soften the image, or if the encoding was
somehow less quality (but I doubt it). I had the lossless files for that as well,
so re-encoding shouldn’t have been the issue.
Good you have lossless (which would make it possible, for example, to sharpen all 97SE shots you used to match surrounding ones, if that is the right move).
For other shots: If it’s a 35mm shot. Yeah, it’ll probably be softer.
It’s sharpened to a degree, but there’s a point where it starts to look bad.
It’s better than super-sharpened GOUT.
I agree GOUT is WAY over-sharpened. If, when from 35mm, you can sharpen to match both sharpness and grain of the rest of the footage, that might make sense, but I agree you don’t want to introduce too many artifacts if a match cannot be attained.
For the werewolf: Yeah, Harmy used the GOUT for that.
This was before we had super resolution techniques and,
more importantly, a good 35mm source.
Interesting, since I saw it on the werewolf first, and I dismissed it as an upsampled GOUT issue, but when I then noticed it on Leia’s hand, it made me start thinking it was some other effect. Might be interesting to check the bluray.
BTW, thank you for your hard work on 2.7 - there are some very nice enhancements there - it keeps getting better, and I can only hope my feedback is helpful in some way moving forward.