xhonzi said:
???? Ewok Movie was made for TV, was it not?
They played theatrical in overseas territories.
TV's Frink said:
pittrek said:
They're prequels, so they have to be watched before the original trilogy.
I'm actually thinking about watching the original trilogy as a proper "intro", and then start with the prequels + Clone Wars stuff, and to end it with the 2004 editions of the OT
There seems to be a disconnect between the two sentences, or am I missing something?
vote_for_palpatine said:
Sucks for you if you chose to look at spoilers from 1977-2005.
You mean that Darth Vader dad thing? He's Chewbacca's dad, or something like that, right?
No, the sentences are completely OK, you just don't see the specially hidden logic :-) First I wanna see the original trilogy, the "real Star Wars".
Then I want to start with the "marathon" featuring the newest version of each movie / episode etc.
Wait a moment, isn't Chewbacca Luke's dad ? At least according to a Simpsons episode :-)
zombie84 said:
xhonzi said:
???? Ewok Movie was made for TV, was it not?
They played theatrical in overseas territories.
Yes, I've seen it in cinema when I was a kid
xhonzi said:
???? Ewok Movie was made for TV, was it not?
True, but it had a theatrical release in Europe under the title Caravan of Courage. I saw it in the cinema here in the UK.
There is some debate about where the Ewok movies should be placed. I always thought they came after Jedi, and I think this is also stated in the essential character guide book I have, but in official canon they come before.
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I saw it in the cinema too, it created a unique dilemma for me because I was so embarrassed that I didn't know how to get out of the building without anyone noticing I was in there in the first place.
I felt like Paul Reubens minus the the shine on the genie lamp.
Well, I stand very corrected.
I always assumed they were in a post RotJ context since the Ewoks spoke Basic and were friendly to humans. Also, the Towani family seems to be in that "post war casual travel" mode. And didn't Quaker Oats crash there during the war??? How long do Ewoks live, anyways...?
I'm sure they can't exactly be fixed in the timeline and have it make tons of sense. It's too square a peg to fit in the canon.
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xhonzi said:
My Order:
SW-R
SW-R
ESB*
SW-R
ESB*
RotJ*
So I meant this with a little wink in my eye... but I wanted to be serious here for a minute. I think to properly understand the power of many serialized fictions, it is necessary to consume the early parts many times prior to consuming the later parts. For those of us who watched SW in 1977, ESB in 1980 and RotJ in 1983, those three years between films were critical to our immersion in the films... The waiting and the repeat viewings of what was available. For those of us who saw them all later, as a complete package, we didn't get the experience of wating 3 years to know if *SPOILER* Vader really was Luke's father. We didn't have to see ESB several times without knowing the conclusion of RotJ, and analyzing ESB to find clues as to what it would bring.
It's also one of the reasons that certain people have strong feelings against RotJ and others don't mind at all, so it can have negative consequences as well... And I'm sure as time goes on, the Prequel Acceptance Rate (PAR) will go up as people won't know the SW before the PT (or the SE's for that matter) and they will see the 6 movies as a whole, as opposed to 2 different parts. But I'm digressing.
Recently, examples can include: Episodes of Lost, LotR, Matrix, Pirates, Harry Potter books, etc... There's something about watching these in a metered way... and also in lock step with the rest of society.
I'm rambling, but while it is too late to experience the OT again for the first time, it does make me wonder how I should show it to my kids? Do I make them watch only SW for several years, and then throw ESB into the mix? Then let them watch the pair of them for a couple years... Or do I just work the trilogy in as they move to solid foods and call it good?
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005
"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
xhonzi said:
I'm rambling, but while it is too late to experience the OT again for the first time, it does make me wonder how I should show it to my kids? Do I make them watch only SW for several years, and then throw ESB into the mix? Then let them watch the pair of them for a couple years... Or do I just work the trilogy in as they move to solid foods and call it good?
Solid foods? I don't think I'm showing my kid SW that early. It's SS and the Wiggles right now...
Incidentally, as a PT fanedit approver, I also have to decide when to introduce the PT. Clearly after the OT, or I risk her not liking the OT 'cause it ain't so purty. But I wonder how long to wait, and how many times the OT needs to be viewed first.
With my luck she'll just want to watch Gilmore Girls with her mother.
Moth3r said:
xhonzi said:
???? Ewok Movie was made for TV, was it not?
True, but it had a theatrical release in Europe under the title Caravan of Courage. I saw it in the cinema here in the UK.
There is some debate about where the Ewok movies should be placed. I always thought they came after Jedi, and I think this is also stated in the essential character guide book I have, but in official canon they come before.
Yeah, english Wicket really freaks me out. I had seen the film when I was five or six but forgotten most of it. Needless to say, when I re-watched it a couple years ago, the bug-eyed Wicket costume speaking really weird, distorted english to Wilfred Brimley and a little girl with an 80s perm was not something I was prepared for.
TV's Frink said:
With my luck she'll just want to watch Gilmore Girls with her mother.
Hey, you can have the best of both worlds. I watch Star Wars and Gilmore Girls. Funny show. They speak so fast... but speak so real!
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Gaffer Tape said:
pittrek said:
I don't agree.
They're prequels, so they have to be watched before the original trilogy.
Hmm, then it seems like you're unaware of what the term "prequel" means. It's a pre-sequel. It's a sequel that, chronologically, happens to take place before the movie it is following. Therefore, like any other sequel, prequels should be watched after the movies that precede it.
Indeed. Watching the PT before the OT is totally wrong. I don't think there's any need to watch any Star Wars stuff in any special order except the original three films in their original forms. Anything else you care to classify as Star Wars can be watched in any order you like, because none of it matters. Except don't watch the PT before the OT, because that's Lucas's bullshit canon.
Vaderisnothayden said:
Anything else you care to classify as Star Wars can be watched in any order you like, because none of it matters. Except don't watch the PT before the OT, because that's Lucas's bullshit canon.
Unfortunately a bullshit cannon has little influence on the weak nosed.
It does if it gets all over their clothes. Not very hygenic.
zombie84 said:
Are the droids cartoons even canon anymore? I thought they were pre-empire. I don't remember any stormtroopers and stardestroyers in there.
Both of them were there.
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Watching the prequels first would be like re-arranging a movie to show the flashbacks first.
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I know, it's a mess too.
The only proper order:
The Star Wars Holiday Special
Revenge of the Ewok
Hardware Wars
Colt 45 Commercial starring Billy Dee Williams
Billy Murray Saturday Night Live "Star Wars" song sketch
(repeat until the lyrics are burned into your skull)
Then pass out on the couch.
After waking up, pour fresh bowl of C-3P O's and blue milk, and watch:
Star Wars
Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
Go away happy.
Vaderisnothayden said:
Gaffer Tape said:
pittrek said:
I don't agree.
They're prequels, so they have to be watched before the original trilogy.
Hmm, then it seems like you're unaware of what the term "prequel" means. It's a pre-sequel. It's a sequel that, chronologically, happens to take place before the movie it is following. Therefore, like any other sequel, prequels should be watched after the movies that precede it.
Indeed. Watching the PT before the OT is totally wrong. I don't think there's any need to watch any Star Wars stuff in any special order except the original three films in their original forms. Anything else you care to classify as Star Wars can be watched in any order you like, because none of it matters. Except don't watch the PT before the OT, because that's Lucas's bullshit canon.
Well I DO understand what are you guys trying to tell me, I just don't agree :-) I definitely want to watch the stuff in chronological order.
Anyway, as I wrote in my original post
What is the correct way how to watch all Star Wars stuff, when I want to include
- the 6 theatrical movies
- the Droids animated series
- the Ewoks animated series
- the 2 Ewoks movies
- the Holiday Special (yes, I REALLY want to watch it :-) )
- the Clone Wars animated series
- the Clone Wars CG movie
- the Clone Wars CG TV show
so any reply recommending to watch only the original trilogy is absolutely useless, but I hope you guys at least had a fun time :-)
Vaderisnothayden said:
It does if it gets all over their clothes. Not very hygenic.
Come on guys, I just came back from lunch :-)
pittrek said:
Vaderisnothayden said:
It does if it gets all over their clothes. Not very hygenic.
Come on guys, I just came back from lunch :-)
We figured anyone who takes a lunch longer than two weeks gives up the right to be ill. ;-)
pittrek said:
Well I DO understand what are you guys trying to tell me, I just don't agree :-) I definitely want to watch the stuff in chronological order.
So then, would you prefer that movies with flashbacks be re-arranged into chronological order? Would that improve, say, "The Sixth Sense" ? Because that essentially is what a "prequel" is... a flashback on a larger scale.
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TV's Frink said:
pittrek said:
Vaderisnothayden said:
It does if it gets all over their clothes. Not very hygenic.
Come on guys, I just came back from lunch :-)
We figured anyone who takes a lunch longer than two weeks gives up the right to be ill. ;-)
I know... and I thought I had good benefits at work. If he gets a 2 week lunch, how much vacation time does he get?
IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!
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"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM
"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.
I'm thinking I'm going to keep the PT away from my kid until he's older. Let him watch the OT and the Clone Wars cartoon. Maybe TPM. The Ewok movies are ok too.
But I'll save AOTC and ROTS until he's older, old enough to hear about the other kids at school. This way he'll have 'real' Star Wars already ingrained into his little mind.
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
pittrek said:
Well I DO understand what are you guys trying to tell me, I just don't agree :-) I definitely want to watch the stuff in chronological order.
So then, would you prefer that movies with flashbacks be re-arranged into chronological order? Would that improve, say, "The Sixth Sense" ? Because that essentially is what a "prequel" is... a flashback on a larger scale.
I WANT to watch it in chronological order, is that really that hard to understand ?
xhonzi said:
TV's Frink said:
pittrek said:
Vaderisnothayden said:
It does if it gets all over their clothes. Not very hygenic.
Come on guys, I just came back from lunch :-)
We figured anyone who takes a lunch longer than two weeks gives up the right to be ill. ;-)
I know... and I thought I had good benefits at work. If he gets a 2 week lunch, how much vacation time does he get?
Not enough to be honest :-)