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In the caps where you can see the dot pattern--you can also see how it creates the optical illusion of horizontal scanlines. Look at the left side of the screen, near Ozzel. Very clearly looks like horizontal lines. But it's just an optical illusion, because in most of the rest of the frame you can see its actually grid-pattern dots.
This does of course make one re-evaluate the shots where its fully scanlines with no trace of dots. It really does look like an alternate version of the shot without dots, but based on the optical illusion seen in the shot with dots, this is in severe doubt.
The Emperor hologram...maybe same thing. It's all a bit difficult to say now. There are other instances of the poor verticle resolution of the GOUT--one that comes to mind is that in Moth3r's transfer of the LD, the final shot of the film you can see extra details on R2's pannelling that in the GOUT is just a solid blob (I think this is on the stickied screenshot page in the forums).
So, it's possible. But what's not possible is the verticle scanlines becoming horizontal. That's not a resolution thing. I might lump the changed graphics colours as well with this. So we are for sure dealing with an alternate print of ESB nonetheless (even if the alt graphics colours are just a video problem). This once again opens the door for a plausible likelihood that some or all of the aformentioned problems aren't verticle resolution or DVNR after all but the genuine absence. And hence we come full circle into a standstill.
As far as 005's page is concerned, my recommendation is to present all the apparent variants as displayed by home video, but with the captioning mentioning the dillemma I mentioned in the previous paragraph. Maybe it's just resolution for (most of) the GOUT examples, but it's plausible that it's not too, but we just don't have any truely reliable way of knowing for sure. In my opinion, anyway. This could change in the future as more stuff becomes available though.
Msycamore said: "...and I suspect that may also be the case with these holograms, if you look at them in motion there seems to be both vertical and horizontal ones in there, maybe Mallwalker's caps will prove it right or wrong."
This is another thing. None of us can really see them in motion. Caps are great, but when you see a video in motion you notice things in the detail that either simply aren't there or in a cap or aren't obvious (or aren't obvious enough to make definitive statements about without lots of doubt).
I guess this will go on. Are there any other transfers that we can check or is that basically all of them? Also: can anyone check the new Making of ESB book and see if the hologram work is ever mentioned? Might be a longshot source of further clarification.
