Boston Marathon Explosion(s) — Page 4

TheBoost said:

darth_ender said:

 I don't really care, but if it's such a crime to blame Islamic extremists, why is it okay to blame right wing white American Protestants with equally little corroborating evidence?

I think the differences in sensitivity levels is largely due to all the attacks and hate crimes done against white people after Newton, Aurora, Columbine, and Oklahoma City. 

 

This is a good question, but also a bit misleading because most recent terrorist attacks have been committed by "right wing American Protestants" so it's natural to speculate if this is on the same lines. Warbler had a legit point about speculating/investigating parties that could be possible suspects based on past actions and known activities, and the reason I took some issue with that is because 9/11 was a long time ago and, really, an isolated incident, which hasn't quite clicked with a lot of people but it's true. Middle eastern terrorists haven't blown anything up in the United States since 12 years ago, so they aren't very realistic suspects any more when there is a whole population body of crazy white people who have been doing stuff like this many times over the past few years--them and pretty much them alone. If it was 2002, for example, it would be reasonable to wonder if Al Queda was responsible for a terrorist attack. Doesn't really hold much water any more, although I will admit the public/spectacle nature of this crime is a bit more in keeping with such an organization rather than the "lone gunman" local extremists that have been in the news a lot recently.

Having said that it would be wrong of course to start arresting card-carrying Republicans as suspects--which is pretty much what happened to that Saudi fellow, who's only crime was being middle eastern in public. The official reason is "acting suspicious" of course, but I can read between the lines on that one, and I'm not sure what that even entails since I don't think they have officially elaborated on it (you mean he looked nervous and worried like he just survived a public bombing?). When being Republican at a major crime gets you in a police car this point will have more merit.

Yes to some degree, based on their political stance. Not where they were born or what they look like. It's legitimate to criticism political stances, you can't possibly equate that with Islamophobia. I mean, even non-Muslims have to suffer that, a Sikh temple was destroyed after 9/11 because some jackasses didn't know what Sikhs were.

I think you are assuming too much there, but again: has that ever impacted a Tea Partier's life in a meaningful way, beyond the fair game of political criticism? Has anyone been arrested at a crime scene on the basis of being a member? Of course not. It's insulting to the victims of racial profiling to even attempt to compare the two.

As long as he keeps making posts, even The Onion can't parody stuff this close.

First off FanFiltration didn't introduce a conspiracy theory he posted to a piece of video with an item of data not theory. The first theory on here was that it was Islamic terrorists, arguably a conspiracy theory, who did this.

Next up this isn't a shrine to the people killed or injured in this awful act.

It's an off topic, unmoderated thread on a discussion board about Star Wars where a piece of breaking news is the subject heading.

Calling people names is fun and using fowl language is hilarious but some might find it a bit distasteful considering that nobody caught up in this crime was an evil public figure.

But they aren't probably reading this thread anyway so knock yourselves out you freaking loons.

ray_afraid said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

               ^?!?!?!?! HALF THE POPULATION IS BEING SYSTEMATICALLY CONVINCED TO HAAATTTTEEE WHITE CHRISTIAN MALES IN A VICIOUS AND DISCRIMATORY WAY!!!   It's empowering the TOTALITARIAN left to destroy EVERYTHING that has made this nation great and good and decent!!! It is enabling our foreign enemies to acquire WPM to give to terrorists to destroy American cities!! You think that crap isn't ripping apart the families of white Christians and making their lives impossible?!?!? 

lol?

Yes!

thejediknighthusezni said:

               ^?!?!?!?! HALF THE POPULATION IS BEING SYSTEMATICALLY CONVINCED TO HAAATTTTEEE WHITE CHRISTIAN MALES IN A VICIOUS AND DISCRIMATORY WAY!!!   It's empowering the TOTALITARIAN left to destroy EVERYTHING that has made this nation great and good and decent!!! It is enabling our foreign enemies to acquire WPM to give to terrorists to destroy American cities!! You think that crap isn't ripping apart the families of white Christians and making their lives impossible?!?!? 

White American Christian here.

My life is just as easy today as it was before this. And before Newton, and Aurora, and Columbine, and the Olympic bombings, or the Anthrax attacks. 

I'm still doing pretty good. But my Wife is Mexican, so maybe that protects me from the Oppression Rays that victimize all the rest of us in the majority.  

zombie84 said:

TheBoost said:

darth_ender said:

 I don't really care, but if it's such a crime to blame Islamic extremists, why is it okay to blame right wing white American Protestants with equally little corroborating evidence?

I think the differences in sensitivity levels is largely due to all the attacks and hate crimes done against white people after Newton, Aurora, Columbine, and Oklahoma City. 

 

This is a good question, but also a bit misleading because most recent terrorist attacks have been committed by "right wing American Protestants" so it's natural to speculate if this is on the same lines. Warbler had a legit point about speculating/investigating parties that could be possible suspects based on past actions and known activities, and the reason I took some issue with that is because 9/11 was a long time ago and, really, an isolated incident, which hasn't quite clicked with a lot of people but it's true.

It doesn't feel like 911 was that long ago to me.    It was no isolated incident.   1993 bombing of the World Trade Center,  USS Cole, 1998 US Embassy bombing,  etc.  

zombie84 said:

Middle eastern terrorists haven't blown anything up in the United States since 12 years ago,

I believe there have been multiple attempted terrorist attacks that foiled.  They have tried and continue to threaten the United States.   There have also been bombings done other countries like Iraq and Afghanistan.   It is very clear that they hate us and want to kill us.  In addition, I am sure some want revenge for Bin Laden.   So when a terrorist attack happens  and Americans are the target, what is wrong with wondering if Al-Qaeda did it? 

zombie84 said:

If it was 2002, for example, it would be reasonable to wonder if Al Queda was responsible for a terrorist attack. Doesn't really hold much water any more

why isn't reasonable wonder it right now.   They are a terrorist organization, why shouldn't we wonder if they are responsible for a terrorist attack? Wonder is much different from assuming or concluding.

zombie84 said:

Having said that it would be wrong of course to start arresting card-carrying Republicans as suspects--which is pretty much what happened to that Saudi fellow, who's only crime was being middle eastern in public. The official reason is "acting suspicious" of course, but I can read between the lines on that one, and I'm not sure what that even entails since I don't think they have officially elaborated on it (you mean he looked nervous and worried like he just survived a public bombing?). When being Republican at a major crime gets you in a police car this point will have more merit.

I agree that we shouldn't go around arresting anyone without sufficient evidence.

thejediknighthusezni said:

               ^?!?!?!?! HALF THE POPULATION IS BEING SYSTEMATICALLY CONVINCED TO HAAATTTTEEE WHITE CHRISTIAN MALES IN A VICIOUS AND DISCRIMATORY WAY!!!   It's empowering the TOTALITARIAN left to destroy EVERYTHING that has made this nation great and good and decent!!! It is enabling our foreign enemies to acquire WPM to give to terrorists to destroy American cities!! You think that crap isn't ripping apart the families of white Christians and making their lives impossible?!?!? 

you're nuts.

imperialscum said:

I not trying to be disrespectful or anything but I think these kind of events get way too much attention.

couldn't disagree with you more.   3 people died and many more have lost limbs.    Since the we haven't yet arrested the person or people responsible, this could happen again.   I'd say that merits attention.

imperialscum said:

Every day hundreds of people die of hunger (which is far more horrible way to die) and yet no one complains or cares about that.

I do. that why I help out with my churches' food bank.   

imperialscum said:

I not trying to be disrespectful or anything but I think these kind of events get way too much attention. Every day hundreds of people die of hunger (which is far more horrible way to die) and yet no one complains or cares about that.

They don't? You might want to check some stats about world-wide hunger relief before you make those claims.