Blu-ray revisionism now getting ridiculous

I'm not surprised. They have rules and guidelines in animated cartoons as well, that come from commitees made up from parents who want to insure the sanity of what children will see.

For exemple:

- No skull heads (like on a poison bottle for instance)

- No objects with sharp edges

- no navels on the characters

- Fire must be blue instead of yellow or red

- All characters in a vehicle must wear a seat belt !

... Excepted when they're driving with their feet using a bazooka to blast ennemies.

Cause of course those ridiculous rules apply as well (or mostly) for series that contain the more action / explosion / weapons etc...

Hypocrisis at its top.

I have no problem with this. It's a show aimed at preschoolers.

Leguman said:

 They have rules and guidelines in animated cartoons as well, that come from commitees made up from parents who want to insure the sanity of what children will see.

Who are THEY and where did they get these regulatory powers? And who exactly do they apply to? The articles mentions no rules.

Hypocrisis at its top.

In what way?

We're missing the larger point here, people...

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Moth3r made a thread.  In off-topic, no less!

WHERE THE RULES DON'T EXIST!!!

;-)

TheBoost said:

Leguman said:

 They have rules and guidelines in animated cartoons as well, that come from commitees made up from parents who want to insure the sanity of what children will see.

Who are THEY and where did they get these regulatory powers? And who exactly do they apply to? The articles mentions no rules.

Those rules apply to the writters, the designers and storyboarders, and they are imposed by the channels who ordered the series to the producers.

I don't remember the name of the commitee I've mentionned above, but I've seen how far they can go.

... Two-pieces bath suit are sometime forbiden too, I just remembered.

TheBoost said:

Hypocrisis at its top.

In what way?

In the way if you have tons of weapons to draw for a serie, you must make these the way they look like plastic toys and wouldn't arm a baby (knives included)...

... Even if the rest of the world is to be blown up.

Moth3r said:

So, the Blu-ray releases of The Evil Dead and Alien had digital alterations to fix minor goofs.

And now this. :-)

Ah, nuts!  It's the handgun/walkie-talkie fiasco all over again!

@pplication:

Before censure:

After:

Thanks to change your avatar Sluggo, no sharp or spiky edges admitted.

... Yeah, sometime they care of crazy details. If you want to make something pass through, you just have to attract their attention on something that look worst. Story-boarders and directors know that game well, cause even during the production the stuff is watched with a magnifying glass.

Thanks, Legoman.  Who needs Nancy anyways.

I think events in cartoons should be allowed to be depicted differently to events in real life -- that's part of the nature of cartoons.  If the people who make cartoons want to add seatbelts to future productions, then that's up to them, but if seatbelts are added in to existing cartoons, I don't where it would end.  I hate to think of what would be done to Tom and Jerry, Road Runner or other classic cartoons.

I'm not sure revisionism has any direct connection to the Blu-ray format though -- if that's what's being suggested.  These revisions to films began on DVD, if not before.  They are simply becoming more common at a time when Blu-ray is becoming more widespread.  Admittedly, this might be helped by the fact that to make films look good on BD studios often choose to go back to the negatives -- or otherwise "remaster" films -- and this provides the opportunity for director's to fix goofs or otherwise make additions.  I have no real objection to fixes for Special Editions or Director's Cuts, as long as theatrical versions are respected and preserved "warts and all".

Gaffer Tape said:

You know... if you were a cartoon, that cigar would totally be edited out of your hairy mouth.  Just sayin'.

Lol!

Chewtobacca said:

I think events in cartoons should be allowed to be depicted differently to events in real life -- that's part of the nature of cartoons.  If the people who make cartoons want to add seatbelts to future productions, then that's up to them, but if seatbelts are added in to existing cartoons, I don't where it would end.  I hate to think of what would be done to Tom and Jerry, Road Runner or other classic cartoons.

 

But Pepa Pig is a cartoon AIMED AT PRESCHOOLERS. It's not exactly "Finnegan's Wake." Seatbelts and shit is exactly what these type of cartoons are supposed to be concerned with. And the studio did the alterations all voluntarily, because their job is to please the parents of preschoolers. No jackbooted stormtroopers will harm your classic cartoons.

doubleofive said:

If I had a kid that started trying not to wear his seatbelt because some dog on TV didn't, I'd have to have a talk with HIM, not the TV show.

quoted for truth.   parents should be the parents, not tv shows. 

TheBoost said:

Chewtobacca said:

I think events in cartoons should be allowed to be depicted differently to events in real life -- that's part of the nature of cartoons.  If the people who make cartoons want to add seatbelts to future productions, then that's up to them, but if seatbelts are added in to existing cartoons, I don't where it would end.  I hate to think of what would be done to Tom and Jerry, Road Runner or other classic cartoons.

 

But Pepa Pig is a cartoon AIMED AT PRESCHOOLERS. It's not exactly "Finnegan's Wake." Seatbelts and shit is exactly what these type of cartoons are supposed to be concerned with. And the studio did the alterations all voluntarily, because their job is to please the parents of preschoolers. No jackbooted stormtroopers will harm your classic cartoons.

I the preschoolers who saw it the original way, without seat belts, would disagree with you once they grow and want their childhood show preserved exactly as they originally aired.

lets put it this way: what about the shows were aimed for you when you were a preschooler,  would you want them altered to please the parents of today's preschoolers?  

As a sidenote all this shit surely applies to TV series and cinema anyways.

Warbler said:

I the preschoolers who saw it the original way, without seat belts, would disagree with you once they grow and want their childhood show preserved exactly as they originally aired.

lets put it this way: what about the shows were aimed for you when you were a preschooler,  would you want them altered to please the parents of today's preschoolers?  

Are you aware that "Peppa Pig" is only a 4 year old show?

 parents should be the parents, not tv shows.

Cute lil strawman. So the only people who can care about whats on TV are people with no kids? If you have a kid the only option allowed to you is to hide your child from all media. Otherwise you're just a bad parent letting TV raise your kid.

And lets not forget, this started with parents concerned about the lessons being shown to preschoolers on a show thats fucking purpose is to show lessons to preschoolers. How incredibly out of line those asshole parents were!!

Boost, calm down.   

I never said the only people that can care about whats on TV are people with no kids.     I also never said that if you don't hide your kid for all media, that you are a bad parent.  What I meant by my" parents should be the parents" comment was that parents should raise their kids, not tv shows.    If a kid sees a character on tv not wearing his seat belt, and then decides not to wear his seat belt, is the tv show solely at fault? no.   The parent are to blame too because they never told taught their kid about why wearing a seat belt is smart move.  They failed to teach the kid that just because you see a tv character do something does not mean its a good idea to do that thing in real life, that there is a difference between real life and what you see on a tv show.

TheBoost said:

Are you aware that "Peppa Pig" is only a 4 year old show?

it is right now and Sesame Street was 4 years old at one point.   what about 20 years from now? when the preschoolers of today are grown?  when Peppa Pig could be a cherished childhood memory of theirs, just like the shows of our youth are cherished memories of ours?  Tell me, would it be ok with you if they alter episodes of Sesame Street from the 70's and 80's to make them more inline for today's youth?  There have been complaints about the cookie monster teaching kids bad eating habits.   Would it be ok with you if they when back and cgied the cookies he was eating into pieces of fruit? 

Warbler said:

 
There have been complaints about the cookie monster teaching kids bad eating habits.   Would it be ok with you if they when back and cgied the cookies he was eating into pieces of fruit? 

TheBoost said:  But Pepa Pig is a cartoon AIMED AT PRESCHOOLERS. 

Yes; I understood that the first time you posted it, without the captial letters.

TheBoost said:  Seatbelts and shit is exactly what these type of cartoons are supposed to be concerned with.

Well, that's your opinion.  I agree with Warbler that it's ultimately parents' responsibility to teach children what they should and should not do.  Nothing is gained by shielding children from all depictions of people doing things wrong e.g. Cookie Monster eating too many cookies.  Children have to learn that they shouldn't always do what they see other people doing, in school, on the street, on the television or anywhere else.  I grew up seeing far worse examples of how not to behave -- Punch and Judy anybody?

As to whether other cartoons will be touched, that remains to be seen.

Chewtobacca said:

Well, that's your opinion.  I agree with Warbler that it's ultimately parents' responsibility to teach children what they should and should not do.  Nothing is gained by shielding children from all depictions of people doing things wrong e.g. Cookie Monster eating too many cookies.  Children have to learn that they shouldn't always do what they see other people doing, in school, on the street, on the television or anywhere else.  I grew up seeing far worse examples of how not to behave -- Punch and Judy anybody?

 

100% with Warbler and Chewtobacca. As a parent to an eight year old girl i agree 100% with this statement , when all is said and done it's down to the parent's to look after and educate their children on matters such as safety and eating habbits etc.